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#108666 - Sat Dec 08 2001 02:08 AM I give up
LuckyRainbow Offline
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Registered: Sun Dec 02 2001
Posts: 9
Loc: USA
OK...I created a quiz 7 days ago. First, it was rejected by the Mods of the General Trivia Category and I was told to resubmit it to the Entertainment category. I did so. It sat for days. Finally, I took it on myself to message two of the Mods and see if there was a problem with my quiz that it was still sitting idle. Both Mods asked me for the specific # of my quiz, and I sent it to both of them. One of the Mods has never contacted me again. The other sent me two messages, one of which told me that I souldn't believe the "24 hours or so" the site creator hypes, and the other message telling me that in order to respond to me about my quiz, she had to reject it, and I needed to resubmit it a third time. I did so. And notified her. Two days later and I have STILL not heard back from her. Sooo...after a week, I have had to submit my quiz three times, have jumped through every hoop I have been asked to jump through, have notified the appropriate Mods at every step of the way, have BEGGED them for help and advice....and still I sit with no quiz online and no news from the Mods.

It kinda makes one wonder just how eager your community is to welcome a new member.


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#108667 - Sat Dec 08 2001 07:49 AM Re: I give up
gtho4 Offline
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Registered: Sun Dec 26 1999
Posts: 54484
Loc: Sydney
oz downunder
LuckyRainbow, welcome to Quizzyland. Your first quiz is sitting in the Entertainment queue at position 10 (went into the queue on December 6th) i.e. there are 9 quizzes in front of yours. At the moment there are 19 quizzes in that queue waiting to go online.

Please keep in mind that every one of the 24 editors in Quizzyland is a volunteer, and that we all do this in our spare time. The volume of quiz submissions is never a constant, it varies between categories, it varies between days of the week (sometimes weekends are busy, sometimes they're not .. ditto public holidays), and it also varies between seasons (there is usually a deluge during the northern summer months). Sometimes we can all get online regularly and the queues don't grow in length, and at other times some of us are unable to login for a couple of days:-

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Depending on the size of a category and the uniqueness of your quiz, it may take anywhere from one day to a week for new quizzes to appear online. Adding quizzes in busy categories such as movies or music WILL take much longer on average than categories such as History or Geography. In general, creating something that stands out as being well written and in a smaller category will get you online faster. Please don't bug editors or mail the webmaster -- your quiz is not lost, it's probably in a long queue. Quiz Creation Guidelines
The editors in the Entertainment category will get to it in due course: your quiz is there in the queue, it hasn't been ignored.

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#108668 - Sat Dec 08 2001 09:11 AM Re: I give up
Bruyere Offline
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Registered: Sat Feb 10 2001
Posts: 18899
Loc: California USA
Hello, I wrote you a reply this morning as I'm often the first one on because of time zones. But unfortunately like my esteemed co editor said, sometimes we can't get on as easily as we'd like, and I'm having some computer difficulties here in Europe.
I'm sorry you've encountered some difficulty but as GTHO said, we're all volunteers, whether moderators of the forums, quiz category editors in Quizzyland, and even administrators. Many of us also contribute quizzes ourselves and therefore, we know from experience the types of problems that quizzes will encounter if they appear without certain formats or in the wrong category.
As a matter of fact, if your quiz is not placed in the right category, it won't get the attention it undoubtedly deserves.
Certain categories are very heavily frequented such as music, entertainment and sports. I personally edit in three categories and music has a much greater volume.
If categories attract first time quizmakers then they need a bit more attention before going online. And I don't think hype is the word I'd use, we do manage the twenty four hour thing in some categories with about ten quizzes per day, but others get about 20 per day.
It's a bit like being a mechanic and getting about 10 cars to do work on, some need an oil change, others need an engine overhauled!
I'll give you an example, if I get a submission from a young person on Boys bands but not on the lyrics or music, but on the personal lives of the stars, it will go into a different category. And if the grammar or format needs fixing, it will take a lot of patient hard work to get it up to snuff. If the quizmaker puts in all fill in the blanks or something, we need to show them that it will end up in the backroom with quiztakers all riled because they didn't type in exactly the same answer or something. That would defeat the purpose. Who wants to get a quiz marked wrong for missing an apostrophe or something? Not me! And besides some people forget the whole point is to share your enthusiasm for the same subject here. Not to totally mystify the people.
I learned this the hard way as a quizmaker with about 66 quizzes online currently. I got flamed for a title thing on a Beatles song that in the written version had an exclamation point and the album version it didn't!

As to our welcome, perhaps I seem biased as I'm now a moderator, but I honestly don't think there are many people who are deeply disappointed with our welcome. Remember that I was once a first time quizmaker at one time too, and had to go through the same processes as anyone else. I was never treated with any disrespect in the least, far from it! Of course my quiz got corrected and rejected once or twice, but that's the way of the game.
I know from experience that I had to coach one person to put a catchier title on his or her quiz as I said, "It's such a good quiz but the title isn't saying much about it, and there are way too many lyrics quizzes...trust me."
Well the person trusted me, and lo and behold, the quiz shot to the tops!
Of course it's a major pain doing some of the stuff we require, I realize this, but we know from trial and error what works from behind the scenes.
You have to remember that if we don't take the pain to do it now, that you'll be subject to the quiztakers, and it will end up getting rejected for things.
Remember once again, not to lose your temper with us, because if we didn't do this, then the quizmakers would, and unfortunately they are not all as patient as us editors are. We hope they are, and we'll send them notes if they aren't polite or something if you tell us, but sometimes they'll zap you. The last one I heard that cracked me up was when a guy told a quizmaker that it was BELEIVE instead of BELIEVE!
Of course you'll see quizzes from time to time that have slipped through the wire, and have problems. The quizzes are all by amateurs after all, and the bulk of them have been building for years now. But we've learned a lot of lessons over the time. They get ironed out with the correction notices.

Well that's my two cents or pence for today. Just hang on there.

Don't forget either, have fun doing it.

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#108669 - Sun Dec 09 2001 12:54 AM Re: I give up
DakotaNorth Offline
Forum Champion

Registered: Tue Jul 10 2001
Posts: 6168
Loc: Philadelphia Pennsylvania USA
LuckyRainbow, I replied to you I think a total of two times so far. You only gave me the quiz number. Here's a suggestion, while you are waiting for your quiz to go online, check it over to make sure that it is as close to error free as it can get. That way, when it comes up to be edited, chances are it would probably go online. If there are errors in it, it will be sent back to you for the corrections to be made, and this will make the wait much longer.

Contrary to popular belief, editors enjoy when the quizzes are almost error free, because that means that quiz creators are actually taking their time in creating quizzes and double checking for errors.

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#108670 - Sat Dec 08 2001 02:09 PM Re: I give up
ladymacb29 Offline
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Registered: Wed Mar 15 2000
Posts: 16214
Loc: The Delta Quadrant
Ditto what DN said. You just have to be patient. i think your quiz is halfway down the list in the entertainment section. It won't be forgotten (we want the quizzes online just as much as you do).
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