When you go to page 1 of your members page, there is a link there called "Quiz Creation Guidelines". At this link you will find the rules funtrivia has established for quiz creation. This is the only link I have been able to find that tells me the quiz creation rules. I am wondering if these rules should be updated. I had created a "Who Am I" type quiz that was rejected by an editor because it apparently didn't follow the quiz creation guidelines. I was told that the guidelines clearly state that at least half my questions must contain an interesting info blurb. While I almost always include this in my quizzes, I didn't in this particular quiz because the body of the question already contained all the interesting info I wanted to include. Adding any more, I felt, would be redundant. When I checked the creation guidelines link, I found that they do not state this at all. I also see that the rules state that all "fill in the blank" quizzes will be rejected. This is just not true. There are many "fill in the blank" quizzes online. Since 3 days had already elapsed before my quiz was examined I felt it rather pointless to resubmit it because it won't make the first page of the new quizzes list. (I have found that making that first page means the difference between 5 people playing your quiz or 150 people playing it). I just wanted to know for the future, are the editors going to follow the rules or are they not going to follow them? Or are they going to make up new ones? I don't care what it's going to be as long as I know. I know that the editors here have our best interests at heart and I do appreciate it. I would just like to see the rules either enforced, or updated to reflect current standards. In my particular case I believe the editor was right, my quiz would be better with interesting info blurbs, but I don't belive it is necessary in this case, and according to the rules I have read, it is not required.
The quiz creation guidelines link that appears on page 1 of my members page is HERE

that link on the main Members page is called Creation Guidelines, the editor was referring to Quiz Creation Guidelines, which is a sub-category in Education, alongside Quizmaker Tune-Ups. It's been there since the latter half of last year. Both locations state:

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Games that are made entirely or mostly of fill in the blank questions will not be accepted. Fill in the blank questions should be used rarely, if at all.

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the time delay between submission and going online can be anywhere from a day or two through to one week:

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Depending on the size of a category and the uniqueness of your quiz, it may take anywhere from one day to a week for new quizzes to appear online.
Important notes for ALL categories

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Thanks George. You have reaffirmed what I have already stated above.
Now my question becomes:
Why is the link that appears on page 1 of my members page, "Creation Guidelines", not the same link that you have been able to find by a much more circuitous route?
I wanted to also add here that the quiz I am referring to was a 20 question general type quiz. All 20 questions were multiple choice and there were no "fill in the blank" questions. As stated above, I was of the opinion that there was enough "interesting info" in the body of each question to preclude adding any more. As I see it, reading both sets of Quiz Creation Guidelines, my quiz should not have been rejected on the basis of the stated rules, only on the opinion of the editor. The stated rules do "NOT" say that leaving the "interesting info" block blank will automatically get your quiz rejected. They only say that it "could" result in that. I believe in this particular case I have a difference of opinion with the editor, and each of us has a valid point. Unfortunately for me though, a quiz on which I spent a considerable amount of time, and which was possibly a fairly decent one does not get online.

[ 03-12-2002: Message edited by: justawful ]

I don't have the time right now to comment on the whole interesting-info issue (I should be doing a problem set right now!) but I will suggest that you do try to put your quiz online, even though it is old. It may take a bit longer to be played by a couple hundred people, but it will get there. People will find it. In fact, just due to the volume of quizzes submitted, most quizzes in the entertainment categories don't see the light of day until they're a week or two old.

By this logic you should take old quizzes offline once they've been up long enough to leave the first few pages of "Newest Games", because they probably wouldn't be played as often. What a shame that would be! Give your quiz a chance to see the light of day, justawful ... if you have other reasons not to resubmit, that's fine, but just don't indulge in age discrimination.

Lol CD. Age discrimination. I love it.

Honestly though, let me give you a case in point. These are both from my quiz list:

"Trivialities" submitted July 10 2001. General mixed category. Rated "Tough" Consists of 10 general mixed questions. Did "not" make the first page of the Newest games list. To date has been played 48 times.

"Quick Trivia Fix" submitted Aug 8 2001. General mixed category. Rated "Tough". Consists of 10 general mixed questions. "Did" make the first page of the Newest games list. To date has been played 238 times.

Yes, I do contend that making that page has a significant impact on how many members will play your quiz. With this in mind I always try to have my ducks in a row when submitting a quiz, in hopes that it will make the cut.

If I may intercede at this juncture, as I am beginning to feel a bit like the proverbial duck mentioned above.
The rejection notice referred to Quiz Creation Guidelines, which also include the category specific instructions, in this case the 'General', category, which state quite clearly that interesting info must be added to at least half of the questions.
This isn't an editorial opinion, these are the rules, no matter how outstanding a quiz is.
I also create quizzes and have experienced the frustration of watching them go on-line in the fourth of fifth page of the newest games list, but I can see both sides of the coin.
None of us have 24 hours EVERY DAY just to ensure that everybody's quizzes get on-line as soon as they are submitted, especially when the quiz creator wants the rules changed just to accomodate his quiz. So please do not shoot the messenger, I was after all just doing my job.
Regards Frank/Ikabud

Perhaps the editors here are not reading the full content of what I have been posting, so I will just reiterate and then drop the subject.
Once again,(for the third time) I have read the rules, and they do "not" state that interesting info "must" be added. They only suggest that it "should" be added. Semantics I know, but I am also interpreting the rules as I have read them. I do however resent the implication that I am asking for the rules to be changed to accomodate my quiz. If you read the full content of my posts you will see that I never said this and I never implied it.

Hi Jim,

In this case Ikabud is correct in pointing out that the general category has a specific set of 'rules' for quiz creation that may differ somewhat from the general quiz creation rules that are available for all the categories. I can understand your frustration, as I'm sure that your quiz was excellent (much like all of your other quizzes). However, in the general category (and in some other categories as well) we have had to tighten down the rules quite a bit over the past year or so as a result of the deluge of poorly written quizzes that have forced our hand. Since the general category is essentially redundant (meaning, most of the questions asked in general category quizzes have likely been asked elsewhere already) we've had to insist on general quizzes containing something 'special'. Unfortunately, this has led to the creation of several summary rules which we have been forced to apply to all new quizzes.

I agree about the theory of 'newest created quizzes'...I have had quizzes come in on page 3-4 of that list and some have been played only 8 times total! With that in mind, here's what I suggest for you regarding the quiz in question. Copy and paste the questions on a newly created quiz, adding the required additional info (maybe by removing some of the info from the body of the questions?) and then resubmitting the newly created quiz. It will then see the light of day (aka newest quiz list).

I hope this helps and sorry for the nasty inconvenience!

P.S. Sounds to me like you have a quiz for the 'people' category. Maybe you ought to resubmit it there?