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#109658 - Mon May 06 2002 07:44 PM Quiz regularities.
musicworks Offline
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Loc: Mobile Alabama USA            
Can anyone tell me why some of the quizes have interesting facts and some do not? I have submitted quizes and the editors tell me it is required on most of the answers, but alot of the quizes I have taken most of them don't have them.
Is it just the categories of what? Also I have seen alot of mispelled words. I'm not complaining, just thought I would ask.
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#109659 - Mon May 06 2002 09:54 PM Re: Quiz regularities.
Bruyere Offline
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Registered: Sat Feb 10 2001
Posts: 18899
Loc: California USA
Hi Jim, You're right about some inconsistencies in Quizzyland, many of these are due to the sheer amount of quizzes online in music and elsewhere, and then, some of our standards have just been established. We've come to realize that music quizzes performed better when they had information, as do all the others.
The ones that went on before this policy do not have them. Some of them also have spelling errors in them, as we are human and spelling errors are harder to catch than you might think.

I myself joined up and did a few quizzes in music without quotation marks around my titles, and then the policy changed before I was an editor.
We are working on ways to remedy these things but we need your help.

Number one, submit courteous correction notes when necessary. If it's just a misspelled word (the word itself is one of the ones I have to work hard on!) then you might not even bother doing it as a correction notice that requires us to check it in the backroom.
You might simply state, "I think the word .....is misspelled, you might want to check it."
If there is a factual error, then do a correction notice.

Number two: the quality of the submissions I am currently editing in music is so poor in the majority of cases, that spelling is probably the least of our worries! These submissions do not reveal any knowledge whatsoever of the person having taken a quiz on the site. They don't function well, nor are they written in a coherent manner, many of them don't use any punctuation whatsoever. They require about five correction sessions and sometimes their "creators" lose patience and call us names and abuse us verbally. I've personally been called a stupid woman here in the forums as I refused to put a quiz online that used the word..well I can't even use the word! It had nothing to do with music, everything with violence and I was accused of purposely rejecting it for its content.
I basically do not care what subject you write on, if you do it in a proper way.

You and I have worked together right? And you know that if I make a comment, it means your work has potential to do well.
If I make a suggestion, it's so that you get more exposure.
One suggestion I have for people is also, I took 300 quizzes before I even dared submitting one myself! And so I saw what worked and what didn't!
Take recent ones though.

So Jim, though you're absolutely right, we are doing as best we can to stop the errors before they go online, but many people are not helping us do our job by carefully correcting their work before submitting it to us, and then, responding to the correction notices.

There are also many music quizzes online that were before the standards were improved, the question of what to do with them is being posed as we speak.

Nothing prevents people from adding info to their older quizzes either.
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#109660 - Tue May 07 2002 01:22 AM Re: Quiz regularities.
musicworks Offline
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Registered: Mon May 06 2002
Posts: 16
Loc: Mobile Alabama USA            
Thank you very much for the information. I can only imagine what kind of load you editors have.
Some of the quizes I have taken seem like the writers just threw them together with no research
involved. It seems as tho they sit down and think up questions without giving it much thought.
When I do a quiz, it may take me half a day writing it up and checking two or three references
to be sure the answer is correct.
Thank you again.
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#109661 - Tue May 07 2002 03:45 AM Re: Quiz regularities.
ozzz2002 Offline
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Registered: Mon Dec 03 2001
Posts: 20912
Loc: Sydney
NSW Australia
Musicworks,

Another editor (Sports, thankfully not Music) shoving his oar in here. I agree wholeheartedly with yourself and Bruyere about the slapdash attitude some authors have. This is a quality site and we are endeavouring to keep it at #1 on the Web.

At the top of each category are the Quiz Creation Notes (QCN's) detailing what is required in a good quiz. If quiz writers would just take a few minutes to read them, it would make editing so much easier and more enjoyable. I realise people do not like reading the boring 'fine print' but if they realised what a positive outcome it can have, they may escape the frustration of playing 'correction ping-pong'.

If you can do a good quality quiz in half a day, that is great- my last effort took me 3 weeks [Smile] but in my somewhat biased opinion, I think it was worth every minute of that time.
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#109662 - Tue May 07 2002 03:51 AM Re: Quiz regularities.
Bruyere Offline
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Registered: Sat Feb 10 2001
Posts: 18899
Loc: California USA
Nothing like a Southern gentleman to sweet talk old Bruyere into calming down!
Sorry, but War Wizard is used to this! Your mothers raised you right, that's all I can say!
But like grandmothers always say, "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar!"

You are absolutely right though, and your quizzes have a wealth of information and yet, occasionally you need a hand proofreading. Everyone is better at some things than others here.
Editing: Sometimes it's like tinkering with about 50 old cars on the lawn, and you have to fix them as quickly as possible, so you pop a few hoods, rev up a few, and listen and look. Some quizzes run real well, but need a little touch up on the paint job, others need their engines pulled and overhauled or even, they might need to be given up for parts! Some cars will run better with a different fuel.
Your quiz needed a little touch up on the paint, many others need an overhaul!
If I were the mechanic, I'd make it pretty clear in about five minutes which car I could take care of realistically.

You can also use the ratings system to guide you on your quiztaking.
It's not infallible but players eventually rate things pretty well.
If a quiz has been taken a thousand times and is still up there in the thousand points, it's probably pretty decent!
There might be some problems, but usually it's ok.

I personally am on a cruisade for quality as we all are, but also for giving people an honest opinion on whether their quiz will go online or if they need to spend more time observing other quizzes before trying it again.
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