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#1131369 - Tue Mar 29 2016 11:31 PM quiz creation - no template options
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(I know looney_tunes and Kyle are aware of this, but I'm posting per l_t's suggestion, in case this is a matter Terry should be aware of / look into)

To put it simply, when I go through the process of attempting to start a new quiz, the "Create Quiz" page (where I enter the title and number of questions) has no template options. There's supposed to be a choice of Standard or Matching [or Photo, if I had "License to Shoot"], but instead this is all I see:

https://www.flickr.com/photo.gne?short=FD2ykG

No template option at all. I was to understand that anyone and everyone is able to write with the new Match Quiz format, so I'm not sure if this is a bug, or something else.

Just to note, I have written two quizzes before (albeit many years ago), so I'm not a first-time author.

If any other info is needed, just let me know. Thank you!

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#1131376 - Wed Mar 30 2016 04:36 AM Re: quiz creation - no template options
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hmm, looks like you need to have five quizzes online to see template options.
My son has two quizzes online and he's looking at the exact same screen when he tries to create a quiz (no template options).


Edited by gtho4 (Wed Mar 30 2016 06:26 AM)
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#1131383 - Wed Mar 30 2016 05:16 AM Re: quiz creation - no template options
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Huh. I appreciate the info, though I admit, that's ... kind of discouraging. I'd like to "go on record" as saying I object to this prerequisite.

One editor told me, quote, "Terry has said that there will be no restrictions on using match quiz format." And another stated, "Match format's available to everyone. Feel free to try your hand at it." (Were these initially accurate and then reconsidered, or something?)

I'm not sure I understand why the restriction is in place. It doesn't square with what I've been told previously, and the quiz-creation pages don't mention it either, near as I can tell.

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#1131384 - Wed Mar 30 2016 05:54 AM Re: quiz creation - no template options
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I also thought it was open to everybody from the get-go; just haven't heard back from Terry about it since we discussed it. Hopefully he sends word down.
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#1131385 - Wed Mar 30 2016 06:30 AM Re: quiz creation - no template options
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It's probably linked to the FITB routine - authors can create FITB questions when they have five quizzes online. Match quizzes are all FITBs.

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#1131441 - Wed Mar 30 2016 03:04 PM Re: quiz creation - no template options
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That was my thought, too. Terry had to remove some coding when my answer in an early match quiz that included an ampersand wasn't being treated properly, since its use in the FITB questions is distinct and different. Maybe this can be changed, too.
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#1131449 - Wed Mar 30 2016 04:40 PM Re: quiz creation - no template options
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Oh, I see. The system considers Match format a FITB, which requires 5+ quizzes before authors can use it. I wonder if Match quizzes were designed to be [treated as] FITBs due to programming / coding considerations.

I guess the main question (for me, anyway) is, were Match quizzes intended to have that prerequisite, and if not, can it be "overridden" (to allow anyone to use the Match format)?

Thank you, all, for the replies.

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#1131461 - Wed Mar 30 2016 05:26 PM Re: quiz creation - no template options
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I guess the main question (for me, anyway) is, were Match quizzes intended to have that prerequisite, and if not, can it be "overridden" (to allow anyone to use the Match format)?


I think the intent was always to open it up for everybody, but we faced a few hitches during creation because of how it was tied to the FITB coding (as LT pointed out). That said, hopefully Terry jumps in. smile
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#1131472 - Wed Mar 30 2016 06:42 PM Re: quiz creation - no template options
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Originally Posted By: MrNobody97
Oh, I see. The system considers Match format a FITB, which requires 5+ quizzes before authors can use it. I wonder if Match quizzes were designed to be [treated as] FITBs due to programming / coding considerations.

yep, that's exactly what happened when he created Match quizzes. He over-layed the existing FITB format; and the 5 quiz limit was an unintended consequence.

It's now a coding issue which, hopefully, Terry can address without re-inventing the wheel e.g. by using the Match Quiz flag to remove the existing 5 quiz pre-requisite.

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#1131514 - Thu Mar 31 2016 01:51 AM Re: quiz creation - no template options
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Terry removed the restriction. Try again. smile
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#1131518 - Thu Mar 31 2016 03:28 AM Re: quiz creation - no template options
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Yes, I now have the Matching Quiz option. That's great. Thanks once again, agony, looney_tunes, Kyle. Would one of you be so kind as to pass on a "thank you" to Terry from me?

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