#1131742 - Sat Apr 02 2016 07:06 AM
Results & Standings .. Grand National
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1st leg of FT Triple Crown This year's race is almost here .. the Grand National Steeplechase was first run in 1839. The scoring system is the same for all three legs of the FT Triple Crown (Grand National, Kentucky Derby and Melbourne Cup). The FT Triple Crown was first contested in 2003 .. this year's comp is the 14th edition. No-one has won the FT Triple Crown .. szabs in 2009 and George95 in 2012 have won two legs (they both missed the Grand National), and 22crows in 2014 (missed the Melbourne Cup). RULESo The rules for this comp are simple, and are the same as last year and the year before.
o Pick 10 horses in the order you think they'll finish, 1st to 10th.
o Points: for any horse out of the 10 you've picked, which finishes in the first five places:1st : 10 pts
2nd : 6 pts
3rd : 3 pts
4th : 2 pts
5th : 1 pt o The order of your picks will be used as a tiebreaker to separate any dead-heats or ties.
o If two players have identical picks x10, whoever posts first wins the tie-breaker. DEADLINEThe race starts on Sat 9th April 2016 at 5:15pm UK time (an hour later than before).
Tips close on the hour at 5:00pm with a short period of grace of a couple of minutes. The following four pages (of many out there) have details of the contenders and their form: The field of 40 runners and their barriers (plus four reserves) will be announced three days before the race on Wednesday night local time. [ published 10:00am Thursday ]. The final field is announced Friday morning at 10:00 am, when non-runners must be declared (replaced by one of the four reserves). Picks x10 can be posted at any time in this thread, even if the field has not been announced! At the moment there 96 acceptors still in the running. Please do not pick reserves. If your horse is scratched, so be it (we've got 10 picks in a field of 40 runners). However, you are free to edit your picks at any time before the deadline.
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#1131743 - Sat Apr 02 2016 07:06 AM
Grand National == > Sat 9th April
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Form guide for the field of 40 runners (one of many guides out there): 1. MANY CLOUDS (trainer: Oliver Sherwood, jockey: Leighton Aspell)
Last year’s winner has a real chance of following up. In form, classy and only carrying 1lb more this time. History beckons. 9 (out of 10)
2. SILVINIACO CONTI (Paul Nicholls, Noel Fehily)
High-class three-mile chaser at top level. Jumping and ability not in doubt, but didn’t stay in Gold Cup and stamina doubtful. 6
3. FIRST LIEUTENANT (Mouse Morris, Bryan Cooper)
Former top-class chaser, who was 16th in last year’s race. Pulled up last time and hard to see him doing better than 2015. 5
4. WONDERFUL CHARM (Paul Nicholls, Sam Twiston-Davies)
Finished third at the last two Aintree Festivals over Mildmay fences. Second on his only run this term. Might get round. 5
5. BALLYNAGOUR (David Pipe, Tom Scudamore)
Third and second in Betfred Bowl at Aintree and seventh last time at Cheltenham. Getting round is best hope. 5
6. O’FAOLAINS BOY (Rebecca Curtis, Brian Hughes)
Not built on RSA Chase win in 2014. Seventh in Gold Cup, but hard to see him doing any better in the National. 5
7. GILGAMBOA (Enda Bolger, Robbie Power)
Fifth in Irish Gold Cup and also at Cheltenham. Stamina not guaranteed and looks a bit inexperienced for the National. 4
8. ON HIS OWN (Willie Mullins, Mr Patrick Mullins)
Fell in both the 2012 and 2013 Nationals. Now a 12-year-old and hard to see him doing any better this time around. 4
9. THE DRUIDS NEPHEW (Neil Mulholland, Denis O’Regen)
Was running well in front when falling late on in last year’s National. Second to The Last Samuri last time. Decent chance. 7
10. TRIOLO D’ALENE (Nicky Henderson, Jeremiah McGrath)
Won Topham over National fences in 2013, but was pulled up in 2014 National. Has ability but stamina an issue. 5
11. ROCKY CREEK (Paul Nicholls, Andrew Thornton)
Good fifth in 2014 National, but only 17th last year. Pulled up back at Aintree in the Becher this season. Looks on the wane. 5
12. SIR DES CHAMPS (Willie Mullins, Ruby Walsh)
Second in last year’s Gold Cup and won Punchestown version. Not in same form since, but could be interesting if he stays. 6
13. HOLYWELL (Jonjo O’Neill, Richie McLernon)
An interesting contender. Won at Aintree meeting before and a fine second at Cheltenham last time. Quirky but could go well. 7
14. SHUTTHEFRONTDOOR (Jonjo O’Neill, Barry Geraghty)
Irish National winner, who was a fine fifth at Aintree last year. Quiet prep this time and if his stamina holds out may get closer. 7
15. SOLL (David Pipe, Conor O’Farrell)
Seventh in 2013 and ninth in last year’s National. Completed in Topham and Becher as well. Will get round but down the field. 6
16. BUYWISE (Evan Williams, Paul Maloney)
Always stays on late to grab place money over shorter distances. If he stayed trip, could be interesting. But it’s a big if. 5
17. BOSTON BOB (Willie Mullins, Paul Townend)
Won Melling Chase two years ago and also landed Bobbyjo Chase last time. That’s a good guide for National and could go well. 5
18. AACHEN (Venetia Williams, Henry Brooke)
Veteran is a good jumper and stays. Last win at Cheltenham in December and probably better in the winter. Unlikely to feature. 4
19. MORNING ASSEMBLY (Pat Fahy, Davy Russell)
Some good novice form, beating Gold Cup winner Don Cossack in 2013. Good fourth at Cheltenham last time. May go well. 6
20. DOUBLE ROSS (Nigel Twiston-Davies, Ryan Hatch)
Effective over shorter in 2013-14 and and fifth over National fences in 2014 Topham. Little form up in trip recently. Stamina a real issue. 4
21. GOONYELLA (Jim Dreaper, Jonathan Burke)
Fine stayer and jumper. Won Midlands National and second in Scottish version last year. Has a chance of making the frame. 6
22. UCELLO CONTI (Gordon Elliott, Daryl Jacob)
Good efforts in three starts for Gordon Elliott. Third at Thyestes last time the best. Has ability but a bit inexperienced for National. 5
23. UNIONISTE (Paul Nicholls, Nick Scholfield)
Fell in race last year but related to 2013 Aintree hero Neptune Collonges. Second to Many Clouds last time. Could go well. 6
24. LE REVE (Lucy Wadham, Harry Skelton)
Third in bet365 Gold Cup at Sandown last year and thrives at the Esher track. Could go well but may be a bit young to get close. 6
25. GALLANT OSCAR (Tony Martin, Mark Walsh)
Third at Cheltenham and first at Punchestown last year. Not in same form since and may not have what it takes for Aintree. 5
26. ONENIGHTINVIENNA (Philip Hobbs, Tom O’Brien)
Only four chase starts in his career, just one win. A decent novice but lacks experience and may be too much too soon. 4
27. THE LAST SAMURI (Kim Bailey, David Bass)
A young up-and-coming staying chaser with superb wins at Kempton and Doncaster behind him. Could be in the shake-up. 8
28. KRUZHLININ (Philip Hobbs, Richard Johnson)
Was 10th in last year’s National when trained by Donald McCain. Good win at Kempton in January and has place claims. 7
29. RULE THE WORLD (Mouse Morris, David Mullins)
Good second in last year’s Irish National but not won in two years. Could get round but may not trouble the main players. 6
30. JUST THE PAR (Paul Nicholls, Sean Bowen)
Won bet365 Gold Cup at Sandown last year but pulled up over National fences in 2014 Becher. Not sure he’s right for National. 5
31. KATENKO (Venetia Williams, Will Kennedy)
Shown little form since 2013 and pulled up and way down field at Cheltenham on his two starts this year. Doesn’t hold any strong claims. 4
32. VICS CANVAS (Dermot McLoughlin, Robert Dunne)
Veteran who was second in bet365 Gold Cup and close fifth in Becher Chase over National fences in December. May complete but no more. 5
33. BLACK THUNDER (Paul Nicholls, Sam Waley-Cohen)
Decent novice in 2013, who beat Many Clouds at Haydock. Little form since and unseated rider in Welsh National. Unlikely to go well. 5
34. BALLYCASEY (Willie Mullins, Katie Walsh)
Brought down in last year’s National and fifth at Cheltenham last time best effort since. Even with more luck may not get round. 4
35 HADRIAN’S APPROACH (Nicky Henderson, Nico De Boinville)
Won bet365 Gold Cup at Sandown in 2014, but injury problems since. Seventh on first start in over a year at Kempton. Unlikely to figure. 4
36. VIEUZ LION ROUGE (David Pipe, James Reveley)
Not a bad run in sixth in the four-miler at Cheltenham last time. But only six chase starts and just seven. Too inexperienced for National. 5
37. PENDRA (Charlie Longsdon, Aidan Coleman)
Finished 10th in Irish National in 2014. Has done okay since with one win at Ascot. But another who may be out of his depth at Aintree. 4
38. SAINT ARE (Tom George, Paddy Brennan)
Loves Aintree, superb second last year and has all the attributes for the National. Won his prep run and could easily go one better this time. 8
39. HOME FARM (Henry De Bromhead, Andrew Lynch)
Pulled up in Irish National in 2014 and also last year’s Cheltenham Gold Cup. No form of note in staying contests. Little chance. 4
40. THE ROMFORD PELE (Rebecca Curtis, Trevor Whelan)
Fell on last chase start in December and has very little in the way of jumping or stamina to think he could be a player. 4 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/oth...6-full-11155530
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#1131750 - Sat Apr 02 2016 08:15 AM
Re: Grand National == > Sat 9th April
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#1131784 - Sat Apr 02 2016 11:21 PM
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#1132012 - Tue Apr 05 2016 09:18 AM
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Grand National: 2014 winner Pineau De Re set to miss outFrank Keogh | BBC Sport | Tuesday 5th AprilThe 2014 winner Pineau De Re needs six late withdrawals to make the cut for Saturday's Grand National at Aintree. A final order of elimination for the £1m race, which has a maximum of 40 runners, was announced on Tuesday. Lower-rated horses are balloted out, with The Romford Pele currently occupying the number 40 slot. As it stands Bishops Road (41), Knock House, Perfect Candidate and Maggio (44) will be the four reserves for the race, with Pineau De Re at 46. Pineau De Re was 43rd on the list before revised ratings were applied on Tuesday. Others in danger of missing out are Becher Chase winner Highland Lodge (47), Alvarado (48) - who has twice finished fourth in the National - and Cheltenham Festival winner Cause Of Causes (49), who was rated about 16-1 joint fifth favourite for the race . http://www.bbc.com/sport/horse-racing/35961360 Racecard number; horse; age/weight: trainer. Maximum 40 horses run. 1) MANY CLOUDS (IRE) 9-11-10 Oliver Sherwood
2) SILVINIACO CONTI (FR) 10-11-08 Paul Nicholls
3) FIRST LIEUTENANT (IRE) 11-11-04 Mouse Morris IRE
4) WONDERFUL CHARM (FR) 8-11-03 Paul Nicholls
5) BALLYNAGOUR (IRE) 10-11-02 David Pipe
6) O'FAOLAINS BOY (IRE) 9-11-01 Rebecca Curtis
7) GILGAMBOA (IRE) 8-11-01 Enda Bolger IRE
8) ON HIS OWN (IRE) 12-11-01 Willie Mullins IRE
9) THE DRUIDS NEPHEW (IRE) 9-11-00 Neil Mulholland
10) TRIOLO D'ALENE (FR) 9-11-00 Nicky Henderson
11) ROCKY CREEK (IRE) 10-10-13 Paul Nicholls
12) SIR DES CHAMPS (FR) 10-10-13 Willie Mullins IRE
13) HOLYWELL (IRE) 9-10-12 Jonjo O'Neill
14) SHUTTHEFRONTDOOR (IRE) 9-10-11 Jonjo O'Neill
15) SOLL 11-10-11 David Pipe
16) BUYWISE (IRE) 9-10-10 Evan Williams
17) BOSTON BOB (IRE) 11-10-10 Willie Mullins IRE
18) AACHEN 12-10-10 Venetia Williams
19) MORNING ASSEMBLY (IRE) 9-10-09 Pat Fahy IRE
20) DOUBLE ROSS (IRE) 10-10-09 Nigel Twiston-Davies
21) GOONYELLA (IRE) 9-10-08 Jim Dreaper IRE
22) UCELLO CONTI (FR) 8-10-08 Gordon Elliott IRE
23) UNIONISTE (FR) 8-10-08 Paul Nicholls
24) LE REVE (IRE) 8-10-08 Lucy Wadham
25) GALLANT OSCAR (IRE) 10-10-08 Tony Martin IRE
26) ONENIGHTINVIENNA (IRE) 7-10-08 Philip Hobbs
27) THE LAST SAMURI (IRE) 8-10-08 Kim Bailey
28) KRUZHLININ (GER) 9-10-07 Philip Hobbs
29) RULE THE WORLD 9-10-07 Mouse Morris IRE
30) JUST A PAR (IRE) 9-10-06 Paul Nicholls
31) KATENKO (FR) 10-10-06 Venetia Williams
32) VICS CANVAS (IRE) 13-10-06 Dermot McLoughlin IRE
33) BLACK THUNDER (FR) 9-10-06 Paul Nicholls
34) BALLYCASEY (IRE) 9-10-06 Willie Mullins IRE
35) HADRIAN'S APPROACH (IRE) 9-10-06 Nicky Henderson
36) VIEUX LION ROUGE (FR) 7-10-05 David Pipe
37) PENDRA (IRE) 8-10-05 Charlie Longsdon
38) SAINT ARE (FR) 10-10-05 Tom George
39) HOME FARM (IRE) 9-10-04 Henry de Bromhead IRE
40) THE ROMFORD PELE (IRE) 9-10-04 Rebecca Curtis The following horses will only run if there are further withdrawals. The final field of 40, and four reserves, will be named on Thursday. 41) BISHOPS ROAD (IRE) 8-10-03 Kerry Lee
42) KNOCK HOUSE (IRE) 7-10-03 Mick Channon
43) PERFECT CANDIDATE (IRE) 9-10-02 Fergal O'Brien
44) MAGGIO (FR) 11-10-02 Patrick Griffin IRE
45) PRESENT VIEW 8-10-02 Jamie Snowden
46) PINEAU DE RE (FR) 13-10-02 Dr Richard Newland
47) HIGHLAND LODGE (IRE) 10-10-02 James Moffatt
48) ALVARADO (IRE) 11-10-02 Fergal O'Brien
49) CAUSE OF CAUSES (USA) 8-10-01 Gordon Elliott IRE
50) ROYALE KNIGHT 10-10-01 Dr Richard Newland http://www.bbc.com/sport/horse-racing/35962227
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#1132241 - Thu Apr 07 2016 08:27 AM
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Bishops Road
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Many Clouds
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Wonderful Charm
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Perfect Candidate
The Druids Nephew
Onenightinvienna
The Last Samuri
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#1132268 - Thu Apr 07 2016 02:34 PM
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Many Clouds
The Last Samuri
Silviniaco Conti
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Ucello Conti
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#1132311 - Fri Apr 08 2016 12:14 AM
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1 - LE REVE
2 - ONENIGHTINVIENN
3 - UNIONISTE
4 - DDOUBLE ROSS
5 - MANY CLOUDS
6 - ON HIS OWN
7 - UCELLO CONTI
8 - THE LAST SAMURI
9 - HOME FARM
10- SHUTTHEFRONTDOOR
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#1132342 - Fri Apr 08 2016 08:12 AM
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1) MANY CLOUDS (IRE)
27) THE LAST SAMURI (IRE)
14) SHUTTHEFRONTDOOR (IRE)
25) GALLANT OSCAR (IRE)
28) KRUZHLININ (GER)
19) MORNING ASSEMBLY (IRE)
23) UNIONISTE (FRA)
17) BOSTON BOB (IRE)
9) RULE THE WORLD
2) SILVINIACO CONTI (FRA)
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#1132405 - Fri Apr 08 2016 03:29 PM
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1. MANY CLOUDS
2) SILVINIACO CONTI (FR) 10-11-08 Paul Nicholls
3) FIRST LIEUTENANT (IRE) 11-11-04 Mouse Morris IRE
4) WONDERFUL CHARM (FR) 8-11-03 Paul Nicholls
5) ONENIGHTINVIENNA (IRE) 7-10-08 Philip Hobbs
6) THE LAST SAMURI (IRE) 8-10-08 Kim Bailey
7) SHUTTHEFRONTDOOR (IRE) 9-10-11 Jonjo O'Neill
8) BLACK THUNDER (FR) 9-10-06 Paul Nicholls
9) JUST A PAR (IRE) 9-10-06 Paul Nicholls
10) ROCKY CREEK (IRE) 10-10-13 Paul Nicholls
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#1132438 - Fri Apr 08 2016 09:53 PM
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1. MANY CLOUDS
2. THE LAST SAMURI
3. SILVINIACO CONTI
4. HOLYWELL
5. THE DRUIDS NEPHEW
6. MORNING ASSEMBLY
7. SAINT ARE
8. SHUTTHEFRONTDOOR
9. SOLL
10. BOSTON BOB
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#1132440 - Fri Apr 08 2016 10:10 PM
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THE LAST SAMURI
MANY CLOUDS
SAINT ARE
UCELLO CONTI
SHUTTHEFRONTDOOR
THE DRUIDS NEPHEW
HOLYWELL
BOSTON BOB
MORNING ASSEMBLY
UNIONISTE
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#1132546 - Sat Apr 09 2016 08:56 PM
Results & Standings .. Grand National
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13 players lodged picks |
Position 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th |
Horse number 27 27 32 7 21 |
Points 10 6 3 2 1 pts | tie-breaker
| 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
1. George95 10 6 16 | (6) (10)
2. illiniman14 10 6 16 | (8) (4)
3. gtho4 10 6 16 | (9) (2)
4. wwe84 10 6 16 | (10) (1)
5. paper_aero 6 1 7 | (2) (9)
6. Fifiona81 6 1 7 | (3) (4)
7. Howie72 6 1 7 | (3) (7)
8. ElfTwinkle 6 1 7 | (3) (10)
9. 22crows 6 6 | (1) (4)
10 yoyoandcigs 6 6 | (1) (9)
11 N-Bomb 6 6 | (2)
12 Sypher 6 6 | (6)
13 ozzz2002 6 6 | (8)
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We have two new runners for this year's Grand National tipping comp .. welcome aboard Fifiona81 and yoyoandcigs!- in a race of upsets, no-one picked the first five across the line .. best picks were two right (1st and 2nd).
- tie-breaker countbacks were required for every position.
- there was a four-way dead-heat for the gold medal. George95 is our winner on a countback .. he picked the winner with his 6th pick vs. illiniman14 with his 8th pick for silver and gtho4 with his 9th for bronze.
- it should be noted that George95 was the first to lodge his picks .. he was onto it within hours of the field being announced!
- the defending titleholder, wwe84, finished 4th. He chose the winner with his 10th pick.
- splitting 8th and 9th spots required a countback to Ucello Conti who crossed the line in 6th place .. 22crows had Ucello Conti as pick #4 vs. yoyoandcigs as pick #9.
- this was the 14th running of the Grand National comp .. no-one has defended his or her title, and Blinkybill is the only person to have won this twice (she won the first one in 2003 and then again in and 2005).
- that completes the first leg of the FT Triple Crown. The second leg is the Kentucky Derby on the first Saturday in May. The third leg is the Melbourne Cup on the first Tuesday in November.
No-one has won the FT Triple Crown .. three players have won two of the three legs:2009 : szabs (missed Grand National)
2012 : George95 (missed Grand National)
2014 : 22crows (missed Melbourne Cup) Maybe the year 2016 will see our first-ever Triple Crown winner! |
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#1132583 - Sun Apr 10 2016 10:11 AM
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You can join any tipping comp you like...the current ones are all in magenta at the top of the page. Welcome aboard, mpkitty!
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#1132584 - Sun Apr 10 2016 10:20 AM
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