#1148084 - Fri Oct 21 2016 06:21 AM
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Definitely think of the timeline in terms of weeks, not days.
If the issue requires considerable research on the part of the editor, and if the question has been online for quite some time with a reasonable score correct (showing that the problem doesn't really affect playability) it's not unusual in my categories for it to take a couple of months to get resolved. I will get to it, but it's not my top priority.
Something players can do, if they do want errors to be dealt with promptly, is to include a link that gives the editor somewhere to start researching the ins and outs of the problem. That's why i asked if it gets amended even if it doesn't impact on the options given in the answer. To which one of the replies on this thread was that any incorrect information is dealt with. I guess with the quiz being online for quite a while and the other criteria given, it's not a priority. BTW, when i submitted the CN, i included a link to backup my response. Thanks
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#1148307 - Sun Oct 23 2016 12:08 PM
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This all makes fascinating reading.
Are you saying then that if an author disagrees with a correction note, marks it as not needing changing and then deletes it, an Editor still gets to see it?
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#1148313 - Sun Oct 23 2016 12:44 PM
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Absolutely - an editor sees every single correction as part of the quality control process. That includes the ones marked as corrected (we check to see that it has in fact been corrected, and without introducing any other errors in the process) and the ones marked as incorrect. Not to mention all the many ones sent to authors who are no longer active and able to care for their own corrections.
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#1148434 - Mon Oct 24 2016 06:36 AM
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Thank you for explaining, both of you.
Recently I have been reluctant to send quite as many correction notes, but may start to pick up the pace again - you have been warned!
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#1148951 - Sat Oct 29 2016 03:32 AM
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What's the procedure if you think a question is wrongly-categorized? Just played Team Heroes with the subject 'One Hit Wonders' and i have a problem with one of the questions that came up. I feel a CN would be inappropraite as i am not disputing answer/grammar, so what other option is left open to me?
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#1148952 - Sat Oct 29 2016 03:39 AM
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You can send a CN, explaining your issue. However, it should be kept in mind that many quizzes have a couple of questions that do not quite fit properly in the category where the overall quiz goes. That's one of the things that keeps making me blink in the Daily Geo quiz - since it grabs the questions at random, you regularly get questions that are not geography at all, even though the quiz as a whole fits in that category.
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#1148958 - Sat Oct 29 2016 05:04 AM
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You can send a CN, explaining your issue. However, it should be kept in mind that many quizzes have a couple of questions that do not quite fit properly in the category where the overall quiz goes. That's one of the things that keeps making me blink in the Daily Geo quiz - since it grabs the questions at random, you regularly get questions that are not geography at all, even though the quiz as a whole fits in that category. Having a Team Hero category as 'One Hit Wonders' would vary so much depending on what country you are basing the information on, then. This particular band certainly wouldn't be described as that in the UK. Yes, the pool of questions plucked for Geography-related quizzes is a bit of a bugbear with me. I find that subject more than any other has questions pulled that have no relation to geography at all, except in the broader context of the original quiz. Put's me off taking the subject at times. Thanks
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#1149029 - Sat Oct 29 2016 03:31 PM
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There are quizzes in the One Hit Wonders category that are specifically UK, some that are specifically US and some that are probably mostly US. If you want to be a hero you gotta master 'em all.
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#1149032 - Sat Oct 29 2016 03:55 PM
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I just played, and must say that around these parts Midnight Oil are anything but a One Hit Wonder. And a few questions explicitly listed two songs by the group in question. I guess that if we were really strict about our definitions, and literally only allowed singers/groups with only a single hit anywhere in the world (and what are the criteria to define a hit, anyway?), there would only be a handful of quizzes possible. The gist of the category is clear enough.
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#1149069 - Sun Oct 30 2016 02:52 AM
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So it really doesn't matter in any meaningful way whether the question is in the "right" category or not.
It does if a person is taking that particular quiz expecting to see questions on that particluar topic. So you are saying if someone takes Geography and gets a load of questions that have nothing to do with that subject, that doesn't matter?
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#1149071 - Sun Oct 30 2016 02:58 AM
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If a question is chart-specific, and can only be answered by knowing a chart position, the exact chart used is spelled out in the question. Not in this case it wasn't. If you go to the actual quiz, then yes. But with questions being pulled randomly it is not always the case, as in Duel and others, information is missed out. Anyway, we are getting off-subject with regards to this thread and the original question posed.
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#1149072 - Sun Oct 30 2016 04:08 AM
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Please don't think editors don't understand your frustration. We're players too and get faced with the same questions which don't seem to fit. You must feel that all we do is tell you that it's OK.
Sometimes, all you can do is learn and remember - 'Colleges and Universities' and 'Campaigns and Elections', for example, will almost certainly be only (or mainly) about America when the categories crop up in Duel and Global Challenge. Other categories, like geography, will allow a small percentage of questions which are not strictly on topic, but are relevant, so you might get a cultural question in a geography set, or a question about a 1960s song in a 'Music of 1950s' set. If you're unlucky, you might get an imbalance in a set of particular questions where the computer has picked too many of that type.
Your best bet, if you're concerned, is to take a look at the original quiz before sending a correction note so you can see how the question fits in the context of the whole quiz.
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#1149073 - Sun Oct 30 2016 04:48 AM
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Please don't think editors don't understand your frustration. We're players too and get faced with the same questions which don't seem to fit. You must feel that all we do is tell you that it's OK.
Sometimes, all you can do is learn and remember - 'Colleges and Universities' and 'Campaigns and Elections', for example, will almost certainly be only (or mainly) about America when the categories crop up in Duel and Global Challenge. Other categories, like geography, will allow a small percentage of questions which are not strictly on topic, but are relevant, so you might get a cultural question in a geography set, or a question about a 1960s song in a 'Music of 1950s' set. If you're unlucky, you might get an imbalance in a set of particular questions where the computer has picked too many of that type.
Your best bet, if you're concerned, is to take a look at the original quiz before sending a correction note so you can see how the question fits in the context of the whole quiz.
That was my origional concern, whether it is appropriate to send a CN in this instance. But, as i thought i'd posted earlier, it's more a case of how the questions are pulled from that particular quiz or category that is the issue. As mentioned before, i would rather play a quiz on Geography than some other subjects, but as questions are randomly picked from many quizzes about a particular country, i find i always get off-topic questions more than in any other category. Think i once got a question relating to an Australian jockey...lol, so i'm thinking, if i wanted that kind of question, i'd have picked Sport instead of Geography. Anyhoo, moving on.
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#1149111 - Sun Oct 30 2016 01:58 PM
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Registered: Wed Nov 03 2010
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Loc: Ontario and Arizona
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We welcome these. Typos are errors; errors need to be corrected. I sent a CN on a brand new quiz that went online a month ago. The author still had the opportunity to correct it at that time but didn't. And since then, three more quizzes by that author with the same typo have been put online. So was it looked at and ignored, even though it is incorrect?
Edited by ssabreman (Sun Oct 30 2016 02:08 PM)
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#1149113 - Sun Oct 30 2016 02:21 PM
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It is possible that the typo of which you speak is one of those areas over which linguists disagree among themselves, and for which we accept any of the variants. These include quite a number of punctuation issues, which are far less cut and dried than most people realise. Without knowing the details of the typo to which you refer, I cannot suggest why it may have been decided that it could be ignored (if it has even been looked at - they all do get looked at, but that doesn't mean immediately).
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