#116622 - Thu Jun 20 2002 11:16 AM
Mole2 -The Next Betrayal - SPOILERS IN THIS THREAD
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Ok, as of 6/18/02, we're down to these people:
Al
Bill
Bribs
Darwin
Dorothy
Elavia
Heather
Katie
Myra was executed on Tuesday, despite her very talented pizza making.
Who do you think is the Mole at this point? Next week, I understand that there may be a possibility of one of the executed player's returning. Do you think the Mole has been eliminated and is going to return after all? Do you think one of the above people is the Mole?
What clues have you found in the show that point towards one person's being the Mole? Is the color blue a clue?
Do you think Anderson knows who the secret agent is? Do any of the other players?
What power moves have you seen lately that have been really good?
Here's the official website, in case anyone needs it:
ABC's The Mole 2-The Next Betrayal
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#116623 - Fri Jun 21 2002 04:43 PM
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Is this a strictly US show? Do other countries show it?
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#116624 - Wed Jun 26 2002 08:37 AM
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Ok! Someone's GOT to be watching this one besides me! So, Elavia was offered $50,000 to just walk away. No strings attached. Nothing coming out of the others' total. Just take the money and run. She did. I think just about everyone thought she was the Mole, so this was quite a shock. I'm beginning to suspect Katie more and more. She's just a little too "innocent" and "fearful" to not be hiding something. I know that act from other people in real life. And, it always seems to be hiding something. Bribs' not taking the exemption to "kill" Caesar's guards was interesting. But, it shows his true character. He seems like a nice guy. Heather and Bill were dumb in the gnome game. For goodness sakes, use your shirts to carry the thing! It would have given more traction. Especially Bill, who could have actually taken his shirt off to wrap it around the thing. There are still so many possibilities here. It's getting interesting. (For someone who absolutely refused to watch any reality shows in the past, I'm finding this one kind of intriguing - I have to see what happens.) Anderson was so cute at the end - jumping up and down and giggling. Kind of out of character!
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#116625 - Wed Jul 10 2002 04:47 PM
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Actually, Linda, I watch it and like it! Don't care much for most of this reality-based crap they keep foisting upon us. Survivor, I will halfway watch, but don't like the 'gossiping' stuff- just the competitions. As far as Big Brother 3, don't care, nor any of the other ones that I can think of.
I thought 'The Mole' sounded really stupid at first, and watched little of the first season. I just got into this about two months ago. Love Anderson, he is really cool. Strict, with a good sense of humour. He sits down with the players, drinks with them, etc. Jeff on 'Survivor' just seems to blow in and out again.
That said, I'm leaning towards Heather, and have been for a few weeks. Katie was a crybaby, and I got REAL tired of her blubbering all the time. As for Heather, don't you think that whole 'proposal' thing was a little contrived? You know, to make people not suspect her. I like Bill, and was glad to see him move on. So, anyway, that is my pick for the 'Mole', for now.
By the way, I watch it because I enjoy it, know what I mean? I can't see many of the clues(if there are any!) so I'm not being too much of a Sherlock with it. I just think Heather is a conniving fake! Can anybody tell me some of the 'clues' I've missed? Go Bill!
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#116626 - Thu Jul 11 2002 08:58 AM
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Ok, just to make sure we're on the same page here (and one of us isn't seeing episodes before the other one!), I want to check something out. Is the last one you saw the one where Darwin was executed? That's the last one I've seen. If you've seen anything further by the date of 7/11/02, don't tell me any spoilers! I thought it was Katie. I really did. She was just too emotional to not be faking it. Come to find out, she's just emotional! I STUPIDLY messed up my video taping last week (I was taping it, because I had to run a couple of errands). I got to see the first 15 minutes of it (up until the time when Bill got to see his brother-in-law) and then the tape cut off. DARN, DARN, DARN! So, I missed the whole proposal and "I'm having a baby" parts of the show. Heard about it from others, but I wish I'd seen it. I'm leaning towards either Bill or Dorothy. Not sure why, but I just have a feeling it's one of them. You know, it must be hard for the Mole to be acting innocent along with everyone else! I know I'd have a problem pretending that I don't know who it is and pretend to be speculating and everything. I'd blow my cover! I love Anderson! He's cute and so much fun to watch. Have you seen him on CNN? It's weird to see him somewhere else! I never suspected Elavia. At least, no more than I suspected anyone else. I'm glad Katie got cut. For the simple reason that I wanted her to be able to see her family again and be back home. I just felt like she needed to be with her loved ones and it was time for her to have people around her that she cared about. I could tell she was homesick. I'm glad to find someone else that's watching the show! I also found two friends here a couple of days ago that have been watching it. So, I'm building up a group of people that I can speculate with!  I didn't see Mole 1, but I've heard some about it. And, the Mole from that one does a discussion on the ABC website. Do you think that Heather is too much like the first one to be the Mole this time? I don't know if they'd get someone that close. I could be wrong, though! I've been looking for the clues, but I'm not seeing much! I do know that the color blue comes up a lot. Maybe that's one?
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#116629 - Fri Jul 12 2002 08:02 AM
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That was Al, Ter. And, that was an icky stunt!  Can you imagine being one of the ones who drank it later not knowing what it was?
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#116630 - Tue Jul 16 2002 08:20 PM
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BRIBS! My Aggie buddy! How could you be executed?  He was such a neat guy - I really think he had a very sweet heart. I know everyone was sad to see him leave. I'm torn between Dorothy and Bill - especially after tonight. Dorothy was looking away way too much in the tower game. Although, maybe she was just trying to give the other female a fighting chance. Bill did something weird with the walkie talkie. Didn't push the button or something, and Al missed his starting signal. It's weird to think that there are only 4 left. One of those people is lying through their teeth! At this point, it becomes really tedious. Who is it?! Who's lying?! Who's the one who knows the truth and is keeping it a secret?! Al, Heather, Bill, Dorothy...one of them knows something we don't! It just broke my heart to see Heather miss out on two exemptions. She looked like she was sincere in really wanting one. Can you imagine if she'd been the one executed. And, twist of fate, the man who took it away from her was the one to get cut. Wow. This is getting exciting now!
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#116631 - Tue Jul 16 2002 11:32 PM
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Yes, Bribs is gone but Heather got to stay! I would have felt so bad for her had she been eliminated today. Anyways, I started a topic about The Mole about a month ago, but no one replied! Thanks for restarting it again Linda.
I think that AL is the mole for two reasons.
1) He's way too relaxed for a person who might instantly lose hundreds of thousands of dollars. Unless of course he knew he wasn't going to win the money in the first place.
2) Two weeks ago there was a shot of the players going into a restaurant for dinner. If you watched carefully, Al walks into the restaurant carrying a plant. Now, for what reason would you bring a plant to a restaurant? They say at the beginning of each episode to look for the clues of who is the mole. Could the plant represent that Al has been planted by the studio? What do you think?
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#116632 - Wed Jul 17 2002 08:12 AM
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Oooooo...those are good ideas, V. Now, you're adding in the possibility of Al's being the one. I had ruled him out completely, but now you have me wondering! Dang it all, this is just too tense at this point! I need to know!
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#116633 - Wed Jul 17 2002 08:19 AM
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I am so sorry! I looked for a thread on the Mole before I started this one, but I didn't see one. Now that I look again, I do. Had I seen it, I wouldn't have started another one (plus, I would have been thrilled to find that I wasn't the only one watching this show! Look at my first few posts in this thread - I'd decided I was the only one watching it for a while!)
Glad to find others who are into the Mole! And, looking forward to analyzing the next few shows with you!
What else did you notice about yesterday's episode? Anything else weird you see? Why do you think Dorothy didn't want to rotate places in the tower when Al wanted them to? Was there anything weird about the stuff the girls bought?
Oh, I have a question. Had the guys sold kisses or their shoes or whatever and made the 200,001 lira and then just gotten rid of the actual stuff they were supposed to get rid of (either by giving it away or selling it for a ridiculous price), would they still have won that game? In other words, was it that they had to sell THAT stuff to get the money, or was it that they had to have all the stuff gone and have a profit over the 200,000 lira - the two things being separate? (Did that make sense?)
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#116634 - Wed Jul 17 2002 12:22 PM
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That game had me confused as well, but I think they just had to make a profit off of their sales. They did not have to sell just what they were given, but I could be wrong.
Looking back at yesterdays episode, it's hard to think of any clues that were given. However, once again Al was acting rather suspicious. How did he not realize that he was supposed to start hunting down Heather? Also, he seemed hesitant to allow another game to begin. Maybe because he knew it would be hard to sabotauge things while being up int the tower (although he did manage to make the lookouts confused by ordering them to switch places). I'm sticking with my first guess, I still think that Al is the mole.
P.S. For those of you who missed the first series of The Mole, you'll be able to meet the original mole in next weeks episode. She's the woman who visits the contestants during their meal and gives them a clue.
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#116635 - Wed Jul 17 2002 04:25 PM
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Having missed the first Mole, I still think it's Heather. Just don't like her! But can somebody explain... What does the Mole get? What is his incentive? Do they get all the money they deny everybody else in the challenges? Do they know what the challenges are before they happen, or have to come up with things on the fly? Can anybody help me??
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#116636 - Wed Jul 17 2002 09:45 PM
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Well this is what I know about what the mole gets, and what they do . . .
1) They are guaranteed some money, I think it's about $30,000.
2) Often the mole is given instructions during games via radios and cameras. At least that's what happened last season.
3) The mole is given opportunities to sabotauge things by the studio, and also can cause problems on their own if they feel they can get away with it.
4) The mole initially goes to the auditions with the incentive of being a real contestant, but is then chosen by the studio to be their fink.
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#116637 - Tue Jul 23 2002 08:42 PM
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7/23/02 Mole or not, I would have bailed on the cockroaches falling on me. That gives me goosebumps at this very second. If I were Al, I think I would have wrapped something around my head. There was that stuffed animal by the bed - he could have used it. May not have drowned Don out completely, but it might have helped!  Pythons aren't poisonous, are they? Not that I'd want to be in a room with one, but how dangerous are they? Notice that Heather wasn't told how long she had to stay in there. What if it was only 1 more minute? Anderson never said it was going to be all night. I have some friends that are convinced it's Bill. I'm not sure! Dorothy's still a possibility. But, then again, she is being kind of obvious. What if she's just trying to draw fire by acting like that? These executions are getting so sad! I swear it's like they're really dead.  I liked Al. I knew he'd be going tonight (just had a feeling before the quiz), but it was still so sad! And, to think he spent all night with his stunt! Had I been the players, I would have really checked those hamburgers out before biting in! I would have insisted that Anderson eat one before I took one bite! Those maggots were just too icky!  So, what did y'all think?!
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#116638 - Wed Jul 24 2002 11:55 PM
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Well, there goes my theory right out the window. Just like with the last series, my suspect makes it to the second-to-last show and is then eliminated. With Al out I'm pretty much stuck as to who is the mole. I'm sad to see Al go, I really liked him, but now the interesting thing is who is the most likely person out of the remaining contestants? Let's take a look at them shall we?
Bill is a retired military general. He attempted to sabotauge one event for certain, but was foiled by Bribs before he could do it. He nailed Dorothy with the sticker, making sure she could not be exempted for one round. He often looks too at ease during the test results, but that could merely be his discipline as a military man.
Heather seems to be the weakest out of the remaining contestants, but that might just be a ruse. She appeared strong at first, but now lost $100,000 just due to a snake. She shares some physical features of the previous mole, but I can't think of anything that truly raises my suspicions about her.
Dorothy has, on many occasions, come through at the last second for the group to earn them some cash. This is, of course, exactly what the mole is supposed to keep from happening. Either it's a ploy to keep people from not suspecting her, or she's just a really terrible mole.
My money is on Bill.
P.S. Pythons are not poisonous, and they rarely bite.
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#116639 - Tue Jul 30 2002 09:03 PM
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PLEASE DON'T TELL ME!
From what I understand, there was something major in tonight's episode, and people know who the Mole is. I don't want to know until next week when it's actually revealed.
I watched tonight's ep, but didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.
I'm not going to read this thread anymore until after next Tuesday, because I don't want to take the risk of getting a spoiler to this. I've watched too long for it to be revealed at the second to last show! But, I did want to let you know why I'm not coming in here right now.
(Actually, if any of you want to discuss it in this thread, you can. I just don't want to know, so I'm going to stay away!)
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