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#1211548 - Thu Nov 08 2018 10:49 PM Re: Suggestions
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Originally Posted By: Creedy
Sooo, what you're saying then, HairyBear - in the nicest way possible of course - is "So what, everyone has problems"??

Some problems however are preventable. Even before their inception.

While I like Triviaballer's suggestion of "...some type of hourly game with photo questions or match quizzes...(and)... how about a Daily Crossword type of challenge...", the idea of adding a timed element to the Crosswords is not a good idea in my opinion. Not at all.

Not only for the reasons stated in my entry up above, but also because doing a crossword is a relaxing pastime, something to do with a nice cup of tea beside you, feet up on the desk, at your own leisure. Galloping through one in order to beat the clock would completely remove that element of relaxed enjoyment.


I second everything that Creedy just said.

In addition, I wouldn't mind seeing an untimed Photo Quiz of the Hour and/or Match Quiz of the Hour. With a badge for playing 24 of them, just like the Quizzes of the Hour badge.

Or maybe, since the pool of quizzes is smaller, make it a Photo Quiz of the Day? And a Match Quiz of the Day?

Hmmm... so perhaps a Crossword Puzzle of the Day is not out of line, either? (As suggested by earlier posters, but without the timed element!!) But maybe make that a level perk, too, like the Crossword of the Week?


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#1211642 - Fri Nov 09 2018 04:04 PM Re: Suggestions
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I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing both an untimed AND a timed crossword. One for while I'm working on coffee, the other after it's doing its thing.

Generally speaking, speed puzzle solving is a thing. I'm particularly a fan of that for number puzzles like KenKen and Sudoku. At my job in college, I used to challenge myself to solve the newspaper's crossword, Sudoku, jumble, and cryptoquote during a 15 minute break.

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#1211817 - Mon Nov 12 2018 03:25 AM Re: Suggestions
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Every so often one of the individual daily challenges is to find a quiz with so many questions and play same. Green tick is awarded if you haven't played the quiz with the last 30 days.

I can't find it anywhere if it already exists, but if it doesn't, would it be possible when we click on any quiz that is highlighted to say we've played it before, to tell the date when that took place?

If this exists already, where is this located please?
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#1211872 - Tue Nov 13 2018 02:05 AM Re: Suggestions
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The thirty days rule can be easily checked using the internet settings in your browser. Most browsers provide a different colour for the links used in the past thirty days. If this is not the case, you may have to change the internet settings in your browser (about the internet history).
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#1211874 - Tue Nov 13 2018 02:36 AM Re: Suggestions
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I'm going to put this in two threads because I'm not sure where it really goes or where Terry will be more likely to see it.


This link http://www.funtrivia.com/achieve.cfm
brings us to a page that shows our upgrades on the original group of badges that became upgradable. However, the newer upgradable badges such as the Monthly Dueler, the Fifty-Fifty minis, and the
Fifty-Fifty Achievement have a link to that page but do not appear on that page.

I know there are other badges that are upgradable that do not appear on that page but have a link to that page. The link encourages us to go to the page so that we can see all of our upgradable badges in one place. It is also an easy way where we were able to check to see what was necessary to achieve the next upgrade.


Would it be possible, please, to put all of the upgradable badges on the page that this link
http://www.funtrivia.com/achieve.cfm takes us to? Thank you.

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#1211927 - Wed Nov 14 2018 08:09 AM Re: Suggestions
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Hopefully this is the right thread....

FT has quite a few crossword authors that have a fairly large number of puzzles on-line. I like to try to work through the puzzles for a specific author. The only way I can find to see crosswords by author is from their profile page--where I can't see which ones I have already played.

Their profile page does show which of their quizzes I've completed, so I'm wondering this this would be feasible for the crosswords as well.

Or is there another way I just haven't found?

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#1211930 - Wed Nov 14 2018 08:37 AM Re: Suggestions
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mlcmlc, I requested this in an earlier post here some time ago. Terry said he would try to get to it.

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#1211972 - Wed Nov 14 2018 04:51 PM Re: Suggestions
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ah, thank you.

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#1212102 - Fri Nov 16 2018 02:06 PM Re: Suggestions
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As crossword authors are getting the same points as quiz authors, when will crossword takers be able to start rating them as we can with quizzes?
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#1212112 - Fri Nov 16 2018 03:14 PM Re: Suggestions
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Originally Posted By: lonely-lady
As crossword authors are getting the same points as quiz authors, when will crossword takers be able to start rating them as we can with quizzes?


There is currently no plan for this, but we are looking forward to other methods of rewarding higher quality CW creation.
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#1212246 - Sat Nov 17 2018 08:54 PM Re: Suggestions
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Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Originally Posted By: lonely-lady
As crossword authors are getting the same points as quiz authors, when will crossword takers be able to start rating them as we can with quizzes?


There is currently no plan for this, but we are looking forward to other methods of rewarding higher quality CW creation.



If no one will be able to rate crossword puzzles, how will higher quality crosswords be determined?

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#1212261 - Sun Nov 18 2018 07:17 AM Re: Suggestions
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Originally Posted By: MiraJane
Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
Originally Posted By: lonely-lady
As crossword authors are getting the same points as quiz authors, when will crossword takers be able to start rating them as we can with quizzes?


There is currently no plan for this, but we are looking forward to other methods of rewarding higher quality CW creation.



If no one will be able to rate crossword puzzles, how will higher quality crosswords be determined?


Via alternative means.



Out of curiosity, what criteria distinguishes a 'Good' crossword from a 'Poor' crossword? Difficulty (of which we already have a system for)? Puzzle construction (of which the system is already built to regulate)? Crossword clues (which aren't expected to be full sentences and which tie into difficulty)? Theme (which isn't really mandatory?)
There's also the issue of CWs from the past ten years not being rated, and all of them likely having been played by a large proponent of our CW-playing community. Those don't get rated by our most avid players? Do they have to play them all again?
And since we don't have subcategories, do the high-rated ones just stay at the top all the time? (To note, there is no plan to introduce subcategories).

CWs aren't the same as quizzes. We're making a lot of changes right now to help the editing and authoring process be a bit more appealing, but there are going to be differences between the two.


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#1212262 - Sun Nov 18 2018 07:55 AM Re: Suggestions
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I completely agree with MiraJane.

Puzzle construction - too many two letter words and a grid that looks like a Scrabble game rather than a crossword I would mark poorly.
Likewise, a crossword that has had corners cut with the use of obscure three letter abbreviations to fit longer words together.
Poor clues I would mark down.
Also use of multiple plurals where singular forms are more usual, or vice versa.
And crosswords with a theme but which contain too much filler.
Also use of overused crossword words like "lea" which you only ever see in crosswords and tend to indicate a lack of imagination or effort in construction.

Elegant crosswords with no random filler, perhaps with unusual good clues that have no ambiguity, word definitions that are clear and precise, or themed crosswords where effort has clearly gone into theming the whole crossword, I would mark as good.

Some of the older ones are pretty bad. The sooner rating starts, the sooner the user experience will improve.



Edited by Upstart3 (Sun Nov 18 2018 08:00 AM)

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#1212290 - Sun Nov 18 2018 02:33 PM Re: Suggestions
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Would it be reasonably feasible to assign a temporary third status between the current system of white unplayed..and green played, wherein old crosswords could be replayed not for points but with the option to rate?


In fact is that even needed? Doesnt that exist now with quizzes where if by chance you have played it before but not rated it, even though you cannot get the points for playing you can retake it and rate it successfully? Sure it might be skewed a bit vs. ghe rate of play seen with completely new crosswords but I see no reason for that to be the basis for not hq ing a rating system at all.

As for judging criteria. Wouldn't players decide that for themselves? I mean some thought out and agreed upon suggestions could be made alongside the rating box but ultimately isnt a little trust required that people wold formulate their own reasonable criteria? Is there anything to prevent "bad" criteria from being used in the current quiz system? No...but we use and trust it.

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#1212302 - Sun Nov 18 2018 03:27 PM Re: Suggestions
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Old crosswords will be played as "new" crosswords when more people start playing crosswords. The only new crosswords I know about are the ones with new next to them. People that are trying for 400 crosswords played badge won't automatically play the new ones only. They will look for ones with a stated them they like or by difficulty rating. After they've played enough crosswords, they might start playing crosswords by their favorite authors.

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#1212683 - Fri Nov 23 2018 10:20 AM Re: Suggestions
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Would it be possible to have a listing of the first players to reach each challenge level, such as All Round Quizzer?

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#1212686 - Fri Nov 23 2018 11:17 AM Re: Suggestions
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Originally Posted By: Mandy2
Would it be possible to have a listing of the first players to reach each challenge level, such as All Round Quizzer?


Oh, I second that! Many is the time I've wondered about the very same thing.

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#1213296 - Fri Nov 30 2018 05:38 AM Re: Suggestions
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Is it possible when working through all the hundreds of quiz lists available if there could be some indication if we've claimed a quiz list before or not?

For example, I've been working through quiz lists today and though various ones are all highlighted in green, I don't actually know whether I've claimed them before because the little gold cup just stays the same either way. I'm endlessly going in and out and in and out checking.

Could the gold cup change to a different colour perhaps if the list has been claimed already?
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#1213298 - Fri Nov 30 2018 06:52 AM Re: Suggestions
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Could the title of the quiz used in the "Brain Twist" be shown, please?

The one I had today referred to the quiz title as an additional clue, but it isn't shown.


Edited by lonely-lady (Fri Nov 30 2018 06:53 AM)
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#1213323 - Fri Nov 30 2018 04:51 PM Re: Suggestions
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Originally Posted By: Upstart3
I completely agree with MiraJane.

Puzzle construction - too many two letter words and a grid that looks like a Scrabble game rather than a crossword I would mark poorly.
Likewise, a crossword that has had corners cut with the use of obscure three letter abbreviations to fit longer words together.
Poor clues I would mark down.
Also use of multiple plurals where singular forms are more usual, or vice versa.
And crosswords with a theme but which contain too much filler.
Also use of overused crossword words like "lea" which you only ever see in crosswords and tend to indicate a lack of imagination or effort in construction.

Elegant crosswords with no random filler, perhaps with unusual good clues that have no ambiguity, word definitions that are clear and precise, or themed crosswords where effort has clearly gone into theming the whole crossword, I would mark as good.

Some of the older ones are pretty bad. The sooner rating starts, the sooner the user experience will improve.



Gee Upstart3 as well you're not a crossword editor then. How many have you written?
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#1216807 - Thu Jan 10 2019 03:02 AM Re: Suggestions
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Might want to give the system a kick. It appears to be one minute off.

Edit to add: This board seems to be on time.


Edited by HairyBear (Thu Jan 10 2019 03:02 AM)

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#1216828 - Thu Jan 10 2019 10:26 AM Re: Suggestions
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Originally Posted By: lonely-lady
Could the title of the quiz used in the "Brain Twist" be shown, please?

The one I had today referred to the quiz title as an additional clue, but it isn't shown.


I second this suggestion.
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#1216831 - Thu Jan 10 2019 10:31 AM Re: Suggestions
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Another thing I have noticed with Brain Twist is the quiz does not score or show that it has been played liked quiz of the hour. I think it should count as a quiz played.
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#1216833 - Thu Jan 10 2019 11:35 AM Re: Suggestions
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Hi Creedy! - I only just noticed your reply. Sorry if it came across negatively. I have never felt inspired to produce a crossword, but, rest assured, you'll be the first to know if I do smile I think the ability to rate crosswords you take would be a worthwhile addition to FT - I have done several crosswords and lamented not being able to rate them excellent in addition to sending a note to the author.

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#1216859 - Thu Jan 10 2019 08:02 PM Re: Suggestions
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They're great fun. I think you'll really enjoy doing them if you get around to trying your hand at crosswording. Easier than quizzes. Different, at any rate. I find them extremely relaxing to do. smilee
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