#1175836 - Wed Sep 20 2017 04:12 PM
how are these topics picked?
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Some of these topics are simply out of control.
Today is the third time in about a month that something to do with "Hinduism" is the Team Heroes topic. No topic should be seen that frequently. But this particular topic has been impossible to deal with. The specificity of the questions has made it impossible to come up with correct answers. Today I had one of the top seven scores in my group--and I scored 286!!
it is grotesquely unfair to the players to keep doing this. I have been trying to do the Eveything challenge and actually had a much better than average chance of getting it today. and I've been trying to get this for two years. but this "Hinduism" topic destroyed any chance I had.
I don't understand why this keeps happening and why, in particular, this category has such specific questions. please fix whatever algorithm is doing this. please.
sincerely, goodreporter
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#1175846 - Wed Sep 20 2017 06:36 PM
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How is asking about the mother of Rama, or about the sister of Vishnu, any different from asking about the mother of Jesus, or the sisters of Lazarus?
For someone who was brought up in India, knowing who was queen after Vashti, and how many commandments were given to Moses, and on what mountain, are probably not answers that roll off the tongue.
This is an international site, that includes people of many many different faiths, all of which are legitimate sources for questions.
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#1175847 - Wed Sep 20 2017 06:51 PM
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How is asking about the mother of Rama, or about the sister of Vishnu, any different from asking about the mother of Jesus, or the sisters of Lazarus?
For someone who was brought up in India, knowing who was queen after Vashti, and how many commandments were given to Moses, and on what mountain, are probably not answers that roll off the tongue.
This is an international site, that includes people of many many different faiths, all of which are legitimate sources for questions. Despite my long-running disdain for the frequent Religion topics in the dailies, I agree with this sentiment completely.
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#1175857 - Wed Sep 20 2017 10:14 PM
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For someone who was brought up in India, knowing who was queen after Vashti, and how many commandments were given to Moses, and on what mountain, are probably not answers that roll off the tongue. I do know the answers to these, but I was also brought up in the United States (the answer to the first is the same name as my fianceé). We cannot just cater to those here, as this is (as mentioned by both flopsy and postie) an international site. Yes, Alexa notes that about 55% of the visitors of this site are American, but does that mean we shut out the other 45% of the site's visitors? Absolutely not. Besides, both India and China have over one billion residents each. The United States is a far distant third at approximately 325 million (or about 25% of India or China solo - each has between 1.3 and 1.4 billion), so therefore, on a global scale, the United States only has about 4% of the world's population. I don't agree with shutting out 18% of the world's population because of one topic (basing the world population at 7.5 billion (per the April 2017 estimates) and India's population at 1.3 billion).
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#1175863 - Wed Sep 20 2017 11:32 PM
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Hear Hear for dg_dave, flopsymopsy and postcards2go. As for me personally, I couldn't care less about Baseball but I wouldn't complain to get rid of it because it is followed by many Americans and also Canadians. Similarly us Pakistanis and Indians have a taste for Cricket and our own language movies and people from the west also seem to like them just as we like English movies and shows as well. One should always be diverse and willing to learn about as many different cultures and religions as possible. As someone from here said(don't remember who exactly) all challenges are not for everyone.
Edited by mask100 (Thu Sep 21 2017 12:14 AM)
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#1175865 - Thu Sep 21 2017 12:28 AM
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Mainstay
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Loc: Sheffield Yorkshire UK
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Hear Hear for dg_dave, flopsymopsy and postcards2go. As for me personally, I couldn't care less about Baseball but I wouldn't complain to get rid of it because it is followed by many Americans and also Canadians. Similarly us Pakistanis and Indians have a taste for Cricket and our own language movies and people from the west also seem to like them just as we like English movies and shows as well. One should always be diverse and willing to learn about as many different cultures and religions as possible. As someone from here said(don't remember who exactly) all challenges are not for everyone. Although sports still don't appear in Team Heroes despite their collective global audiences.....
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#1175869 - Thu Sep 21 2017 01:04 AM
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Mainstay
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Loc: Sheffield Yorkshire UK
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Objecting to Hinduism as Team Hero topic is akin to the objection as Judaism as a Team Hero topic that appeared in the Forums not long ago. If you are referring to the Team Heroes categories thread, I did not and do not object to Judaism or any other other religion appearing as Heroes topic. I was trying to make a point about some very tough categories such as sports never being allowed to appear in heroes despite the fact that a category like Hinduism is equally or possibly even tougher on average (just look at yesterday's team scores). As I have stated over and over I love the variety and relish taking on obscure topics. I just wish we could see all of them. If you refer to some other thread then ignore me! Haha!
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#1175870 - Thu Sep 21 2017 01:05 AM
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I scored around 331 in that particular topic and even led the scoring on my team for a few hours. The world didn't come to an end and I lost no important bodily parts. The topic may be obscure to a lot of us but so what? Personally I'd welcome more 'obscure' topics in the Team Heroes game.
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#1175884 - Thu Sep 21 2017 05:37 AM
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Mainstay
Registered: Sun Oct 05 2008
Posts: 507
Loc: Sheffield Yorkshire UK
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No, nasty liar, you weren't the one that objected to Judaism at a Hero topic. So now I am ignoring you. That's good!
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#1175947 - Thu Sep 21 2017 02:55 PM
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all of you need to stop looking at this as some anti-hindu sentiment. I agree that all of the topics on the bible are a bit much. nor do I know the answers to many of those questions.
yes, the team heroes game is supposed to be challenging. but exactly how much can you learn about any topic when whipping through it in as short a time period as possible.
i would have written the same thing if there was as much seemingly obscure info on a topic involving any religion as there was in yesterday's topic. at least the other times Hinduism has been a topic there have been questions that related to more of the major themes of the faith than yesterday's did.
tell you what: the next time you have one of those "harry potter" topics, i'll complain about that. i know less about that than about Hinduism. and, unlike when it comes to a world religion, i don't care anything about harry potter.
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#1175953 - Thu Sep 21 2017 05:32 PM
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yes, the team heroes game is supposed to be challenging. but exactly how much can you learn about any topic when whipping through it in as short a time period as possible.
i would have written the same thing if there was as much seemingly obscure info on a topic involving any religion as there was in yesterday's topic. at least the other times Hinduism has been a topic there have been questions that related to more of the major themes of the faith than yesterday's did.
tell you what: the next time you have one of those "harry potter" topics, i'll complain about that. i know less about that than about Hinduism. and, unlike when it comes to a world religion, i don't care anything about harry potter. First of all, you don't do the learning as you whip through the questions. That happens afterwards, as you read the extra information, and then do some googling to make it clearer so you can remember next time. Not everyone playing Team Heroes gets the same questions, even though they are selected from the same pool of questions. My selection of Hinduism questions was pretty standard for the topic - Rama (3 times), Ganesh (twice), a couple of avatars of Shiva, and then a bunch that were virtually meaningless to me, but clearly not to someone more familiar with the religion. I did some reading on the avatars, because they interested me, and left the others I didn't know to remain part of my pool of ignorance, at least for now. Maybe the key to happiness is just accepting that what comes up comes up, and don't play the topic if you hate it that much - nobody is holding a gun to your head. Or, if your team needs you, or you want the extra points for the game, play it and shrug off the whole experience.
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#1175972 - Fri Sep 22 2017 01:59 AM
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There's nothing wrong with this post-- this is a Feedback forum, after all. TH topics is a thread we see time and time again and this is the place to discuss it. I think the point that everyone is hitting on here is that there WILL be specialized topics and that's the point. Our admins and editors do read the feedback-- all of it-- and when tweaking needs to be done it will be. I've brought up the TH distribution with Terry and Wes within the past month (it'll actually be a month as of tomorrow). Not long ago Terry looked at the topic list and some of the more obscure ones (*objectively* more obscure) were culled out. I think it's apparent that the ones coming up now are significantly less obscure than Authors H-K, 'Buffy' Quotes, and the like. In the past month (30 days?) we had three religion topics, each one different. That's not too crazy when we think that several categories are not represented (VG, BT, FC). In fact, that seems pretty 'on average'. GR-- I sympathize; it's not an easy challenge to win. Sometimes the cards are stacked out of favor (like whenever I get Epic dailies). I think TH is fair in its distribution right now though, and on a more even ground than we've ever had (which might actually be a bit of a problem). But I don't think we can please everyone every day. 
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#1176006 - Fri Sep 22 2017 12:15 PM
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We have a member on our team who seldom does well in the more general categories. However, when her rather narrow areas of expertise come up, she SHINES! And that, to me, is the whole point of Team Heroes. I see zero point in having yet another game that most everyone here can do well at, and the scores come down to who's fastest - we've got plenty of that onsite. Every TH category has quite a few quizzes in it, which means there is someone here who is an expert at the subject, even if it's just the one person who wrote all those quizzes  I imagine there was cheering over on the Indian teams the day Hinduism came up, just as there's a lot of happiness on Canadian teams when the subject is Canadian geography, or on teams of Londoners when the subject is the London underground. Every time I see a specialized TH topic that I know nothing about, I can cheer myself up by thinking that there is at least one person here thinking "At last! My chance to shine!"
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#1176015 - Fri Sep 22 2017 02:52 PM
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Loc: Pakistan
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Please don't remove religion.
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#1176018 - Fri Sep 22 2017 03:12 PM
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As for the difficulty of getting certain badges, in other threads some of you have complained or commiserated about just such things, so finger-pointing seems a little hollow. I'm not particularly interested in the Bible, the Torah, the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Queen of Persia or the Duke of Earl. If quizzes on them come up in Heroes I'll play them but only because I want to help my team beat yours.
Edited by CmdrK (Fri Sep 22 2017 03:16 PM)
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