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#1180336 - Sun Nov 05 2017 08:15 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
Julia103 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jennifer5
In reply to rossian's post -

I'm not sure that it's the background that's the issue. There isn't a clear enough distinction between the dark blue text not clicked on and the black text for what has been clicked on. Highlighting isn't the right description. We don't mean the yellow line, but it used to be easy to see a clear difference between names, for example, not clicked on (blue) and those you had (purplish red). This still works on the 'players near you' list, for now at least. Trying to see one slightly darker name in the middle of a list of names which look almost the same colour isn't easy and it used to be.

I agree with rossian on the difference with seeing what you have looked at before. The black against blue is pretty indistinguishable and the purple was much easier to see quickly.


I have this issue also. On the upgraded pages: if something is a hyperlink to a page which has not been accessed recently it is bright blue. But if it is a hyperlink to a page which has been accessed the text looks black and is indistinguishable from text which is not a hyperlink. The font seems skinnier than previously, so it's hard to see if there is a difference between black text and blue-black link. On the pages which have not been changed: the text for links which have been accessed recently is purple so it's clear that it's a link.

I have found that if I hover my mouse over the text it will show an underline for links, but previously I could recognize links because of the different color rather than taking that extra step.

I'm on a computer with Internet Explorer 11.

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#1180340 - Sun Nov 05 2017 09:52 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
ssabreman Offline
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Originally Posted By: ssabreman
I liked the old format where the game results showed players and teams that you were following in a better highlight. Now the black "highlight" beside the blue names is almost impossible to differentiate and track.


Originally Posted By: rossian
Quote:
I just checked and it certainly doesn't highlight team mate names.

What you should be seeing is a scoreboard with a very light blue background, with blue text for links you haven't clicked, and a blackish/blue text for those that you have.

Are you just saying that the background blue is too dark?


I'm not sure that it's the background that's the issue. There isn't a clear enough distinction between the dark blue text not clicked on and the black text for what has been clicked on. Highlighting isn't the right description. We don't mean the yellow line, but it used to be easy to see a clear difference between names, for example, not clicked on (blue) and those you had (purplish red). This still works on the 'players near you' list, for now at least. Trying to see one slightly darker name in the middle of a list of names which look almost the same colour isn't easy and it used to be.


Yes, I never meant the yellow highlight band in my original post, so I put highlight in quotations for lack of a better term. The reddish "highlight" appears on several pages, but several others like the hourly results have been changed. Can we get them all back for a consistent display?

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#1180385 - Mon Nov 06 2017 09:28 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
DireWolf74 Offline
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On the main Expert game page there used to be a link called "Hall" that led to the page that showed the list of players with the most Expert wins. Just noticed that it's not there anymore.
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#1180387 - Mon Nov 06 2017 11:02 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
pmarney Offline
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When playing the Mixed quizzes one of the options is take me back to where I was, but it takes you to Duels, not back to the Mixed quizzes.

Also when clicking on an individual subject# and then clicking on new it used to take you to new quizzes in that subject now it just goes to the complete list of new quizzes.

Maybe that’s what’s meant to happen but it seems weird.
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#1180388 - Mon Nov 06 2017 12:50 PM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
Terry Offline
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Posts: 21449
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: rossian
Quote:
I just checked and it certainly doesn't highlight team mate names.

What you should be seeing is a scoreboard with a very light blue background, with blue text for links you haven't clicked, and a blackish/blue text for those that you have.

Are you just saying that the background blue is too dark?


I'm not sure that it's the background that's the issue. There isn't a clear enough distinction between the dark blue text not clicked on and the black text for what has been clicked on. Highlighting isn't the right description. We don't mean the yellow line, but it used to be easy to see a clear difference between names, for example, not clicked on (blue) and those you had (purplish red). This still works on the 'players near you' list, for now at least. Trying to see one slightly darker name in the middle of a list of names which look almost the same colour isn't easy and it used to be.

Better?

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#1180389 - Mon Nov 06 2017 01:20 PM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
Verbonica Offline
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Registered: Tue May 16 2006
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Loc: Napa Valley
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Originally Posted By: Terry
Originally Posted By: rossian
Quote:
I just checked and it certainly doesn't highlight team mate names.

What you should be seeing is a scoreboard with a very light blue background, with blue text for links you haven't clicked, and a blackish/blue text for those that you have.

Are you just saying that the background blue is too dark?


I'm not sure that it's the background that's the issue. There isn't a clear enough distinction between the dark blue text not clicked on and the black text for what has been clicked on. Highlighting isn't the right description. We don't mean the yellow line, but it used to be easy to see a clear difference between names, for example, not clicked on (blue) and those you had (purplish red). This still works on the 'players near you' list, for now at least. Trying to see one slightly darker name in the middle of a list of names which look almost the same colour isn't easy and it used to be.

Better?


Not that I can see, Terry. Not sure what was changed where. Here's my front Duel page as an example:
http://www.funtrivia.com/duel/

And my Duel 2nd page ("more"):
http://www.funtrivia.com/duel/scores.cfm

The blackish/blue for previously clicked ones is just too subtle compared to the purple on the "more" page. I think that the font over on the "Today's Dueling Topic" list looks thin and anemic for some reason (maybe it's the same font as the other, but it just has a different appearance there, and I've noticed it elsewhere in the new changes also). I'm using 110% zoom level too, btw.

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#1180390 - Mon Nov 06 2017 01:26 PM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
Verbonica Offline
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P.S. Another color problem example; I don't have a link because it is from Daily Challenges a couple of days ago:

"Win a buzzy bee scavenger hunt. Keep an eye on the Buzz throughout the day for details on where you should look."

The words "the Buzz" are a hyperlink, but they appear absolutely the same as every other word in the sentence in color and everything else. Hovering w/ the mouse lights it up as a link w/ an underscore, but otherwise it's not apparent.

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#1180433 - Tue Nov 07 2017 05:14 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
Sandpiper18 Offline
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Registered: Sat Jul 01 2017
Posts: 27
Loc: New Jersey USA
Hi,
I'm reposting in case the earlier feedback on this fell through the cracks.

PROBLEM: Some pages are now too bright and hard on the eyes. (Another player also posted about this.)

Example: Click on the Daily Game, and the leaderboard and box containing "Play Timed" and "Play Untimed" has a nice pastel green background. That's good!

The box right above the leaderboard appears to be pale pink. Too bright, but tolerable.

Now, please click on the Mixed Game, for example. The leaderboards appear to be a very pale pink. They're too bright. If you could change the color back to the pastel pink or any color similar to the pastel green, that would be great!

Also, once you click Play Now for the Mixed Game, the background containing the answers appears to be gray. If you could darken the gray a little, that would be great!

PLEASE NOTE: Prior to the design changes, my eyes were very happy, and I had no trouble.

Thank you for listening!

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#1180462 - Tue Nov 07 2017 10:43 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
Terry Offline
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Registered: Wed Dec 31 1969
Posts: 21449
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Sandpiper18
Hi,
I'm reposting in case the earlier feedback on this fell through the cracks.

PROBLEM: Some pages are now too bright and hard on the eyes. (Another player also posted about this.)

Example: Click on the Daily Game, and the leaderboard and box containing "Play Timed" and "Play Untimed" has a nice pastel green background. That's good!

The box right above the leaderboard appears to be pale pink. Too bright, but tolerable.

Now, please click on the Mixed Game, for example. The leaderboards appear to be a very pale pink. They're too bright. If you could change the color back to the pastel pink or any color similar to the pastel green, that would be great!

Also, once you click Play Now for the Mixed Game, the background containing the answers appears to be gray. If you could darken the gray a little, that would be great!

PLEASE NOTE: Prior to the design changes, my eyes were very happy, and I had no trouble.

Thank you for listening!


Made a couple of minor tweaks -- better?

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#1180468 - Tue Nov 07 2017 12:23 PM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
Sandpiper18 Offline
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Registered: Sat Jul 01 2017
Posts: 27
Loc: New Jersey USA
Originally Posted By: Terry

Made a couple of minor tweaks -- better?


Yes! Thank you, thank you! smile

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#1180474 - Tue Nov 07 2017 01:08 PM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
DireWolf74 Offline
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Posts: 764
Loc: Illinois USA
The links at the top of this page:
http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz3900232ca5c50.html

Where it says "Home » Quizzes » Music » Music Mixture" need to be changed to the underline style. The black box around them makes the first two "Home" and "Quizzes" unreadable because they are links I've clicked on in the past.

I tried a few of the other new quizzes on the home page but this is the only one I've found with that problem.

Sorry to be such a thorn in your side.
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#1180489 - Tue Nov 07 2017 02:53 PM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
DireWolf74 Offline
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Just realized that all the Match quizzes have that same problem with the links at the top. The HTML ones have those links underlined when you hover your mouse over them.
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#1180501 - Tue Nov 07 2017 07:22 PM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
wwe84 Offline
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What has happen to The Buzz it looks terrible it look better the other way IMO.

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#1180502 - Tue Nov 07 2017 07:54 PM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
DireWolf74 Offline
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It looks better and and easier to read the way it is now IMO.

http://www.funtrivia.com/thebuzz.cfm
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#1180505 - Tue Nov 07 2017 09:42 PM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
spanishliz Offline
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Registered: Thu Dec 13 2001
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Loc: Ontario Canada
I also prefer the new look for the Buzz.

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#1180516 - Tue Nov 07 2017 11:34 PM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
Terry Offline
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Posts: 21449
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: DireWolf74
The links at the top of this page:
http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz3900232ca5c50.html

Where it says "Home » Quizzes » Music » Music Mixture" need to be changed to the underline style. The black box around them makes the first two "Home" and "Quizzes" unreadable because they are links I've clicked on in the past.

I tried a few of the other new quizzes on the home page but this is the only one I've found with that problem.

Sorry to be such a thorn in your side.

Fixed tx

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#1180526 - Wed Nov 08 2017 12:39 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
namrewsna Offline
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Terry there are still a few sporadic screens, usually results screens or pre-play screens, where I am seeing the issue of content pushed off into the rkght hand margin as discussed on page 12-13 of this thread. Is it worth posting about these individually whenever one crops up or will they be caught over time in regular maintenance?

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#1180571 - Wed Nov 08 2017 08:40 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
agony Offline

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Posts: 16595
Loc: Western Canada
For me, it's impossible to tell if I like a new look or not. Because it's not what I'm used to, my first response is always "Oh, don't like it, put it back the way it used to be!"

Then a week or so goes by and I get used to it, and then if I saw the old way, I wouldn't like IT anymore.

This is why I hardly ever comment on the way changes look - I know that my judgement on such things is not very good.

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#1180576 - Wed Nov 08 2017 09:12 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
DireWolf74 Offline
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Originally Posted By: DireWolf74
On the main Expert game page there used to be a link called "Hall" that led to the page that showed the list of players with the most Expert wins. Just noticed that it's not there anymore.


Posting this again in case it got lost in the shuffle. There have been a few people on the Expert game chat board asking for this link to be put back.

Plus, a chance to quote myself. wink
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#1180586 - Wed Nov 08 2017 10:33 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
maninmidohio Offline
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Posts: 9742
Loc: Newark
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On the easy game I just received the following after submission -

Calculating your score..

Questions correct: 10 / 10
Error -- you are showing a negative score. The system clock must have been changed while you played. This quiz will be ignored.

I tried retaking the quiz (since it said the quiz would be ignored), got the same questions and the same comment after submission.

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#1180587 - Wed Nov 08 2017 10:36 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
PDAZ Offline
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Same thing. I tried another browser but received the same error as MIMO.

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#1180589 - Wed Nov 08 2017 10:45 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
Terry Offline
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Registered: Wed Dec 31 1969
Posts: 21449
Loc: USA
Sorry, fixed. Just converted that game over.

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#1180592 - Wed Nov 08 2017 10:55 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
Terry Offline
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Posts: 21449
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: namrewsna
Terry there are still a few sporadic screens, usually results screens or pre-play screens, where I am seeing the issue of content pushed off into the rkght hand margin as discussed on page 12-13 of this thread. Is it worth posting about these individually whenever one crops up or will they be caught over time in regular maintenance?


Yes please post the URLs where this is happening. I don't regularly test on very old browsers, so I am not seeing those issues myself.

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#1180593 - Wed Nov 08 2017 11:04 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
PDAZ Offline
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Registered: Sat Aug 02 2008
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Loc: Arizona USA
On my tablet, the content is pushed to the right on the mixed quizzes:

http://www.funtrivia.com/special_lists.cfm?mixed=1

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#1180595 - Wed Nov 08 2017 11:13 AM Re: Design Upgrade Experimentation
Terry Offline
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Originally Posted By: PDAZ
On my tablet, the content is pushed to the right on the mixed quizzes:

http://www.funtrivia.com/special_lists.cfm?mixed=1

Hmm interesting, but this one looks fine?

http://www.funtrivia.com/special_lists.cfm?newest=1

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