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#118538 - Wed Jul 03 2002 04:52 AM Cheer the English? Never
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This was printed in response to the article the other week which was titled 'Cheer for the Irish? Never' written by an English... man in 'The Guardian'.

With regard to your comments on Robbie Keane's celebration & numerous little digs at Irish-ness in general, I feel you need a little reminding of some facts that British people tend to forget for some strange reason. Firstly the Robbie Keane thing. Scoring a goal in the world cup is something a lot of us dream of, for Robbie Keane it must have been a dream for him too. I can understand his celebration, it was a sort of follow on from the goal against Germany when he drew two guns & start firing away only this time it's a different weapon. How this annoys you is confusing. What's the story with Beckham scoring & opening out his arms as if he's an aeroplane about
to take off?? Maybe he's trying to tell us he's from cloud cuckoo land or something; he'd be right. Saudi Arabia may not be any great sheiks "get it?" But what do you call Greece when you struggled to beat them & to be fair you mention the referee giving us a lot of dodgy decisions. If it weren't for a terrible decision to give you a free kick in the last minute against Greece you wouldn't have qualified. Short memories. I have to agree with you in regard to the strange phenomenon that most people throughout the world seem to take to Irish people & admire a whole host of different things about us. Now let's ask our selves why this is? Is it anything to do with our culture of Music, Dance & the ability to have a decent conversation with a complete stranger? Is it anything to do with the fact that after about seven pints we tend to be a little happier & start singing? Is it anything to do with the age-old reputation of us been a friendly race? Is it anything to do with the fact that where-ever Irish people turned up in the world, we have blended in and had a lot to offer? For example in America it's generally known that we built the entire infrastructure form the ground up. The influence of the Irish in Argentina, Australia, Britain & Canada for example is shocking. The fact that your people & country are hated, & I don't mean this to be offensive but this is fact. This hatred is simply because all of the above I have mentioned in favour of my people is exactly the same reasons as to why your not liked, but in reverse. I mean your people are so diverse due to the colonization of vast amounts of lands & cultures that you lack your own cultural identity. The fact that after seven pints,
there is a tendency to smash some bodies face in. The Fact that you have an age-old reputation that you are an oppressive race that took rather than contribute to any other nation in the past. So you wonder why we support anybody but England? Not Wales or Scotland, only England. Were not perfect by any means and were not all friendly, but I can tell you that the old laugh about the leprechauns and misty hills and the bogs are starting to disappear. For a country like Ireland with a population of about four million & our own identity, add the fact that our people are loved everywhere & that our economy is the fastest growing in Europe, is it any surprise why were admired? Go on, have a dig at us ? sure we've taken a lot worse than that from you lot before & came out stronger for it. At this stage it's like water off a Duck's back. The worst bit about it is that it's eating you up in side & there's nothing you lot can do about it anymore!!! Mind yourself & answer me this simple question. You own the English language, but why do the London folk pronounce such words like THINK as FINK? Where on Earth did you get
the F? Like all things that originate from England, English people are crap at them. Is mise le meas "Irish"

John McGuinness

ps: in your bit below about the referee been mugged in Marbella, well what's the chances that an English lout might have done it?


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#118539 - Wed Jul 03 2002 05:37 AM Re: Cheer the English? Never
izzi Offline
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... and your point is ???
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#118540 - Wed Jul 03 2002 07:20 AM Re: Cheer the English? Never
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Maybe you should read over it again and use your brain this time, you might just get the meaning
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#118541 - Wed Jul 03 2002 11:09 AM Re: Cheer the English? Never
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... and your point is ???
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#118542 - Thu Jul 04 2002 03:03 AM Re: Cheer the English? Never
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izzi said:

... and your point is ???

Call me a thick Englishman, but the article printed makes as much sense as a camel on the Welsh moors. Typical of the Irish.

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#118543 - Thu Jul 04 2002 03:20 AM Re: Cheer the English? Never
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Mefinks the point is that aoifs is and always will be an Anglophobic. The message in this thread, just like the previous one in this forum, is not really worthy of a response.
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#118544 - Thu Jul 04 2002 06:37 AM Re: Cheer the English? Never
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How very true.
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#118545 - Thu Jul 04 2002 09:11 AM Re: Cheer the English? Never
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In reply to:

The fact that after seven pints,
there is a tendency to smash some bodies face in.




Good job you weren't born English then aoifs eh? Because, frankly my old china, you do seem to have the same sort of xenophobic attitude that most English football hooligans have . Just imagine if you had been born here...... you would probably relax by throwing plastic garden furniture about and generally annoying people.

'Green' most definitely appears to be your 'colour'!

By the way mate.............It's 2002 not the early 1920's.

Genuinely sorry that Ireland didn't progress further, but like I've said before.........Mick McArthy didn't pick enough Englishman

wez
As always.................blah de blah de blah....... NOI INTENDED! etc., well.........not much anyway eh?
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#118546 - Sat Jul 06 2002 03:47 PM Re: Cheer the English? Never
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Should somebody who is so dead against quite a large number of the Funtrivia community really be allowed to go on like this?? I'm all for free speech and everything but I'm really annoyed that anybody English should have to put up with this.......again.

I think this thread should be removed or aoifs should. He only ever seems to post when he has something negative to say about the English.

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#118547 - Sat Jul 06 2002 03:50 PM Re: Cheer the English? Never
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Oh and by the way - where's aoifs broom? He seems so fond of making sweeping statements he should have one.

And I knew the Irish were fond of potatoes, but is that any reason for aoifs to be carrying a whole sack of them on his shoulder instead of the usual chip.

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