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#1197440 - Mon May 28 2018 12:09 PM Global Challenge 32
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#1197442 - Mon May 28 2018 01:05 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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Well it's 2:05 funtrivia where is GC 32?

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#1197443 - Mon May 28 2018 01:31 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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Where indeed? Having got my team all prepared....I have nothing to tell them. Just a little update please. Thank you, Vee

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#1197446 - Mon May 28 2018 02:36 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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3:35 How about an update Are you going to start GC32 or not?

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#1197451 - Mon May 28 2018 04:58 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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There's no need to be rude, Blaster2014. There could be all sorts of reasons why Terry hasn't started the GC - maybe he forgot it was a holiday weekend when he first set the start date, maybe he's gone abseiling off the side of a mountain somewhere and he can't get a signal, maybe he dropped his phone in the bath - who knows? All you can do is wait patiently, and if you can't be patient, try reading a book.
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#1197453 - Mon May 28 2018 05:10 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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Who's being rude Plus I never learned hoe to read.

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#1197454 - Mon May 28 2018 05:11 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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Or even spell.

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#1197455 - Mon May 28 2018 05:11 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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I know you're a moderator, Flopsy, but it is you that is being rude, not blaster. He asked simply for an explanation, and he is due one, as are we all. The sarcasm and the reflexive defensiveness is from you, not blaster. What is happening here is unprofessional. A business that says it will start something at such-and-such time on such-and-such day has a responsibility to do what it said it would, and, failing that, offer a real explanation to its paying customers.

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#1197456 - Mon May 28 2018 05:18 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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Thank you brm50diboll.

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#1197457 - Mon May 28 2018 05:24 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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Blaster had an aggressive, angry emoticon by his name (which he changed while I was writing that) and his posts often sound rude - they're certainly not polite. Did you consider that there may be things going on that have prevented Terry from launching the GC? He has a young family, kids get sick, phones don't always work, and people make mistakes. And even in this world of instant demands, instant replies aren't always possible.


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#1197458 - Mon May 28 2018 05:32 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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So if that emoticon is rude then remove it I'm am not always rude some of you moderators are just to sensitive and can't take the truth so you have a nice day.

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#1197459 - Mon May 28 2018 05:40 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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If I may pass on some friendly advice to you blaster2014. One post to ask the question is fine, a second post just one and a half hours later is what I would personally consider to be rude and I'm not a moderator. Just thought I'd give you that insight. laugh

As for GC, this has happened before, more than once I think. Perhaps those wise mystics who play it time and again since it started can remember better than me but I know this has happened more than once. GC starts when it starts and ends when the button gets pressed! It's just a game folks!

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#1197460 - Mon May 28 2018 05:57 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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At the risk to myself of belaboring this point, I'm going to disagree with you on this one, nasty. Doing things when you say you are going to do something is important for trustworthiness, which is important for a business, even a private one. The fact that this has happened before is *not* reassuring. It is the opposite. Telling someone who asks for an explanation that they can do whatever they want whenever they want does not help build loyalty. A real explanation is needed here.

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#1197462 - Mon May 28 2018 06:08 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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(This is wearing my player's hat, not any official position here being represented.) When I started reading this thread, my response to blaster2014's first post was something like, "Well, that's a bit abrupt", but then, I am not comfortable demanding that a service be provided - I might say that to a friend in the room, but not in a public forum. When I got two posts down, and only an hour and a half later, to see an equally terse post (with, to me, a fairly belligerent tone), not a request for information, I definitely thought it was quite rude. Not only had there been very little time for any response to have been made, but the message also ignored the usual niceties of civilised interactions. Veronicavee made the point in a manner that I found more constructive. I certainly expect to see an explanation offered when one is available.

I don't know if this GC has started yet or not, since I am not planning on doing it. But I do think we should all remember that it is just a game, as nasty_liar pointed out. "GC starts when it starts and ends when the button gets pressed." One of the reasons I have opted out of recent GCs is the amazing stress it seems to create in players at the start (of what will be a months-long ordeal, no need to rush in and be the first on your block to play a game) and finish of each challenge.


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#1197463 - Mon May 28 2018 06:15 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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I completely understand you brm and what you are saying I just find it, quite frankly, amusing!

You keep suggesting that "explanations" must be given. I would suggest to you that the most likely explanation will be Terry appearing later and posting a message to say, "sorry, forgot" or "sorry, x, y, z happened" and that will be the extent of it. That will also be just fine.

The GC will start, possibly later or tomorrow now and by starting 12 hours after scheduled that will have the drastic effect of..... nothing. There are no consequences here. It's not like somebody ordered their shopping delivery online and it never showed up or somebody said they were removing the left kidney and took the right. There are no consequences to GC starting later apart from the fact that it starts later. The other, what, 99% of the site, is operating perfectly? So when I read you asking for an explanation it just seems so over the top that it almost becomes absurd to me. But that's your viewpoint and it's ok, this is mine and is ok also.

Anyhow, I hope it's working soon for all the eager beavers out there waiting to get started.

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#1197464 - Mon May 28 2018 06:31 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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I would just add that we shouldn't forget the many times that Terry and co. Have addressed issues surprisingly quickly, . I had a couple issues where I was unable to play certain games/quizzes, and it was resolved within the hour. And the amount of times I have seen this very fast response time for other players dwarfs the times that an issue goes unresolved for any length of time.

(But as I type this, I do recall one minor issue that was raised by myself and my brother D a couple weeks ago, but I'm sure that's certainly the exception!:D)


Edited by varnish (Mon May 28 2018 06:52 PM)

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#1197465 - Mon May 28 2018 08:01 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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blaster's comment didn't seem rude to me, but it did seem a bit curt. Those two aren't far apart but I just didn't see it as rude on the first read. But I'm not here to second guess a moderator. On the other hand, I think it is a testimony to the outstandingness of the product that when it isn't delivered in time, people get antsy. We want our trivia and we want it now! grin I'm sure whatever Terry is doing now he wanted to start it today but evidently something prevented him from doing it and I'm sure he's thrilled that people care about it that much to be counting down the days.

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#1197466 - Mon May 28 2018 08:05 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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Originally Posted By: brm50diboll
At the risk to myself of belaboring this point, I'm going to disagree with you on this one, nasty. Doing things when you say you are going to do something is important for trustworthiness, which is important for a business, even a private one. The fact that this has happened before is *not* reassuring. It is the opposite. Telling someone who asks for an explanation that they can do whatever they want whenever they want does not help build loyalty. A real explanation is needed here.


Yes and no. For one, it's tentative by its nature. They haven't always started when they were said to start. From the time one ends, it's only an estimate of when they will start the next one and they're subject to change. It's disappointing when you're ready to go and then click to GC only to find out it didn't begin but, Terry has multiple obligations and he lives in a flood prone and hurricane prone state and it's that time of year when the tropics are beginning to turn bad. Whatever it is the primary issue is that he and his family are doing well and that comes first. That's my two cents.


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#1197467 - Mon May 28 2018 08:27 PM Re: Global Challenge 32
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That time of year? That is really weak. Hurricane season lasts from June to November. And what has hit the Florida Panhandle is subtropical storm Alberto. If you actually know that Terry is in the path of that storm, you should say how you know. And if you don't know, you shouldn't make vague statements that anyone who lives anywhere in the Atlantic or Gulf coastal regions may disappear anytime because it is storm season. I happen to live in a state that gets struck by real hurricanes regularly. Cell phones exist and that particular storm was forecast days ago. I suspect you don't actually know anything about the real reason that the GC didn't start. Making up excuses doesn't help. Sure they can change the start time if they wish, but they should communicate that if they need to make a change. Perhaps someone who does know should start checking, if they already haven't.

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#1197471 - Tue May 29 2018 12:03 AM Re: Global Challenge 32
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It's Memorial Day Weekend. I can imagine that some treat it as a long weekend and can get carried away spending time with family. If anyone is blaming him for that, then I guess that's that.


While I understand people being eager and ready to play, some things happen and we're only human. I'm sure Terry will announce something as soon as he is able to, but judging by the responses above (some of which are angrier than others), no solution short of 'what I want, and now' is going to help this.


Terry has been notified (by me, personally). In the meantime, belaboring the concern isn't going to help. Terry's the only one who can fix it.

We get it.



Also, flipping back and forth posting reminders here in the forums as well as in the Chat Boards won't get it looked at quicker. There's no need to have the same conversations in two different places. Any technical troubleshooting: here is just fine.
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#1197472 - Tue May 29 2018 12:24 AM Re: Global Challenge 32
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Anyone can message Terry privately. That is completely different from saying he was actually contacted in real time. It is downright irritating to have people suggest with absolutely no evidence whatsoever that some sort of disaster may be involved in this. Because if there really were a disaster, since numerous things on FT can be done *only* by Terry, that would be a matter for real concern, not passive reassurances, as it could spiral quickly. As for the Memorial Day business, it should not have been unnoticed by anyone that May 28 was Memorial Day. That is no more of a surprise than that Thanksgiving in America is the fourth Thursday in November. And the longer this goes on, the more commenting in more places you will see. Trying to limit this discussion only to the Forums with the same tired line that Terry rarely reads the Boards is forlorn. The horses have long since left the barn on this one. I personally am not angry at all over the fact that this didn't start when advertised yesterday. But the excuses are quite annoying.

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#1197478 - Tue May 29 2018 01:33 AM Re: Global Challenge 32
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Yay, I too got annoyed with the variety of excuses people suggested without any proof, while reading this thread. It is simple, he is a human and he may have forgotten, Terry did not replied yet it means he may have not visited Forums due to some reasons. It is a waste of time to put effort on guessing why he was not there? as only Terry knows this. So we need to have patience and just know that it will start as soon as Terry is here, Isn't it?

Why should we waste time on worthless explanation if we actually don't know it? Isn't it sufficient to know that GC starts manually by Terry and it had not started as he has not been here for a while?
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#1197480 - Tue May 29 2018 02:16 AM Re: Global Challenge 32
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I don't see it as a cause for annoyance. It's human nature to want to be helpful, for most of us at least, so people are just trying to suggest what might have happened to cause the delay. There's no need to be unkind.

Although I'm an editor, I know no more than the rest of you - this is my personal opinion.
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#1197484 - Tue May 29 2018 03:24 AM Re: Global Challenge 32
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Originally Posted By: brm50diboll
Anyone can message Terry privately. That is completely different from saying he was actually contacted in real time. It is downright irritating to have people suggest with absolutely no evidence whatsoever that some sort of disaster may be involved in this. Because if there really were a disaster, since numerous things on FT can be done *only* by Terry, that would be a matter for real concern, not passive reassurances, as it could spiral quickly. As for the Memorial Day business, it should not have been unnoticed by anyone that May 28 was Memorial Day. That is no more of a surprise than that Thanksgiving in America is the fourth Thursday in November. And the longer this goes on, the more commenting in more places you will see. Trying to limit this discussion only to the Forums with the same tired line that Terry rarely reads the Boards is forlorn. The horses have long since left the barn on this one. I personally am not angry at all over the fact that this didn't start when advertised yesterday. But the excuses are quite annoying.


I contacted Terry in real time. If you’re looking for the direct line, I’ve got it. I assure that I didn’t do the same thing that ‘anyone’ can do, otherwise, based on the earlier messages, I’d have been beating a dead horse.

Regarding excuses, I was merely giving a possible explanation. I don’t know what our staff does in their spare time. I only know that f it were me I’d seize whatever spare time I could get; I get such rare instances of it.

I asked to push it to the forum here because the same people asking there are posting nearly the same thing here. Once is enough. Additionally, technical issues are attended to speedier from here if not from Terry, then from Wes and I. I *barely* check the General CBs myself. I always check the Feedback Forums or the Authoring Q&A CB because actual concerns and queries can be addressed from there. The General CB is a great place to discuss GC32 in general, but it's going to get buried there if there's an actual problem.


Edited by kyleisalive (Tue May 29 2018 04:07 AM)
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#1197485 - Tue May 29 2018 03:37 AM Re: Global Challenge 32
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To add: I apologize if I’m being terse in my responses, but life happens. I haven’t gotten a response from Terry, but I sent a message close to midnight at his time. But yikes it would be lousy if there were a severe issue on his end and to receive the blunt notes earlier up in this thread. I like to think I’m fairly reasonable on here, and I gave a curt response only because I wanted to defuse what was coming across. That I’m using the word ‘defuse’ is probably an indication of how I felt about the tone of the earlier messages. Later or not, I’d feel pretty lousy to be the one on the receiving end of them. It’s not something I feel is deserved unless one were to expect it in return, and even then...

Anywho— off to bed with me. Happy 5:30am, team. wink


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