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#1215347 - Sat Dec 22 2018 09:37 AM Global Challenge 33
Barbarini Offline
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Terry, are you planning to shut down GC over the holidays?

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#1215362 - Sat Dec 22 2018 12:46 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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Hmm hadnt planned on that... what have we done previous years?

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#1215363 - Sat Dec 22 2018 01:25 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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From memory, I believe that you decided against shutting it down for Christmas as this is only one of various holidays in different parts of the world. Trying to please everyone would be impossible.

You might have done it once, but a long time ago.
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#1215364 - Sat Dec 22 2018 01:59 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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I'm with rossian. Not everyone celebrates Christmas, so why single it out?
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#1215365 - Sat Dec 22 2018 02:20 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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Whoa...I was just asking...

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#1215367 - Sat Dec 22 2018 02:38 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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Originally Posted By: Barbarini
Whoa...I was just asking...


My apologies. I had not meant it to sound at all harsh. blush Just agreeing that it would be nearly impossible to take off for every holiday... there would be no time left for playing cry
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#1215420 - Sun Dec 23 2018 01:32 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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I remember it remaining open over Xmas in previous years.
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#1215430 - Sun Dec 23 2018 04:47 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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Way back when I first started here, long before the GC existed, we used to shut down quiz submission over the holidays.

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#1215453 - Mon Dec 24 2018 02:08 AM Re: Global Challenge 33
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I vaguely remember one of the main challenges being shut down at one stage for the holidays when I first started playing it, but that was quite a while back. It may have been the GC.
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#1215489 - Mon Dec 24 2018 04:59 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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We've definitely kept going with the Global Challenge through the Decembers that I've been here since 2014 (except that I think one had ended earlier in December and the new one didn't start until early January).

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#1215525 - Tue Dec 25 2018 05:12 AM Re: Global Challenge 33
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There was a suspension a few years ago for the Christmas & New Year period, but I think it was only for one year.
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#1218145 - Wed Jan 30 2019 06:28 AM Re: Global Challenge 33
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The first Hardcore player has hit immortal. That was fast! Congrats, eyhung.
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#1218562 - Sun Feb 03 2019 06:45 AM Re: Global Challenge 33
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And now there are two HC Immortals, congrats PDAZ.

Along with two Regular Immortals, congrats Barbarini and Jules 44.


Edited by shuehorn (Sun Feb 03 2019 06:47 AM)
Edit Reason: To add Regular Immortals
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#1220402 - Thu Feb 21 2019 06:09 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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Seems I finally found a post where I can post a subject that I have tried before but with no luck well here goes, in the global challenge It just doesn't fair that players that are already immortal should be able to knock out players that are trying to become immortal for the first time example right now there are 82/100 compared to 9/30 I am well aware that the players in the 82/100 are playing for upgrades but some players myself included (78.3 9 division)can get to the 10 level to become maybe in my case I'm just not smart enough but it seems if it was made 0/150 some of us might be able to become Immortal and for the ones that think I'm just being a bad sport and complaining I'm not just get close every time I play and the game ends because 100 players that are Immortal already beat out the 30 that just never seem to make it.

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#1220498 - Fri Feb 22 2019 12:32 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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What no feedback on this subject?

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#1220507 - Fri Feb 22 2019 02:03 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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I check this board everyday, and I hadn't checked in the seven hours since you first posted.

I play the GC because I love it and I play against myself. The only ones I have missed is when my husband died, and when I was travelling before the access to reasonable internet, and said husband didn't let me pay an arm and a leg to play.

That said, because I just wanted you to know that not everyone plays for upgrades or badges, I don't disagree with your point that it has become harder for new players to break in. I think that this "fever" of those playing again to upgrade badges will pass soon, not that that is any real consolation.

I played many many times before reaching the goal of Immortal in both modes. It takes a lot of practice and dedication to find out what groove works best for you. But the consolation is, whne you do actually earn it, it feels so good.

So, stick it out a couple of more rounds and see if you improve relative to the rest of the pack.

Good luck!

Sue
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#1220508 - Fri Feb 22 2019 02:11 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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We are currently at 1470 played sets and from the score of the 100th place, I expect 2 more days. That will evaluate to 1494 as the final tally - an entirely average speed for the challenge and well in the window of what we aim at for a consistent objective difficulty of reaching Immortal.
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#1220513 - Fri Feb 22 2019 03:19 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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Thanks for the feedback I also play this game for fun and know someday I will achieve in getting to level 10 and becoming Immortal and winning the badge It just seems that the 100 who have already won beats out the 30 trying to win for the first time I just thought it would be nice to make it 150 to give the 30 a better chance.

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#1220518 - Fri Feb 22 2019 04:12 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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Actually, if it were that the numbers supported "it got harder to make Immortal", we'd probably change it. However that's not what the game stats say.

The primary indicator for game difficulty is the number of sets you have available to get the needed (constant) points for Immortal. The fewer sets you get, the higher you need to average on every single set to make it - thus fewer sets means a higher difficulty. On seeing the many repeat Immortals, I was actually expecting the set number to be very low - that's what one would see if we had the normal group of new players drowned out by more experienced ones and it would have merited an adjustment for the next GC. However the number is near constant compared to GC 32 and 31. You have effectively the same chance to make it as you had the last years.


Edited by WesleyCrusher (Fri Feb 22 2019 04:14 PM)
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#1220693 - Sun Feb 24 2019 05:35 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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Well it's down to 1 more win 99/100 compared to 17 needed 13/30 just doesn't seem fair.

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#1220733 - Mon Feb 25 2019 02:53 AM Re: Global Challenge 33
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If we wanted to be completely fair, we would have to set the game to a fixed duration - and that duration would be, based on the actual results of the last 24 rounds, be 1500 question sets or 125 days (because that's the average). Which is, coincidentally, exactly the number GC 33 will wind up with if it ends today, as scheduled.

If we were to keep going for 30 new Immortals this game, we'd (from a quick look at the numbers) wind up somewhere around 1590 sets, which would be the longest (and thus easiest to complete) GC since the move to twice-daily rounds.

The reason for the low number of new immortals is not so much that existing players have extra motivation to try, but mostly that we in general have a declining ratio of players who have not yet made Immortal as opposed to those who made it - there are just fewer new joins than there have been in past years while older players tend to stay and keep playing. If we kept up a strict "30 new immortals" rule, we'd probably approach game lengths of 180 days or more in just a few more years.

Your score for this round, by the way, would require approximately 6 extra days for Immortal. That's about 5% of the total or, over a typical 12-hour set, three extra correct answers or an additional ** category played instead of a basic (non-asterisked) one. Maybe that data can help you adjust your strategy so that you can shave that time off your performance for the next round - it's certainly within the realm of the possible to improve by this amount (or more) in one go!



Edited by WesleyCrusher (Mon Feb 25 2019 03:05 AM)
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#1220764 - Mon Feb 25 2019 12:32 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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Thanks for the info it just seems( at least for me)that I play every game even the brain twist and I seem to get closer every round but just can't to level 10 and as I said before I will keep trying and will get there someday it just seems those 100 long time players get there before the 30 and I've been playing since 2014 maybe not this game the whole time so have a nice day.

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#1220766 - Mon Feb 25 2019 12:46 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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Looks like we are getting an extra set this global challenge. We went over 100 immortals during the first set today but the challenge did not end prior to the start of the second set.

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#1220776 - Mon Feb 25 2019 02:16 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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We'll close it next set

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#1220787 - Mon Feb 25 2019 04:33 PM Re: Global Challenge 33
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Disclaimer first: I do NOT complain or plead for changing the rules/adjusting the running time of GC.

But I want to point out, that if you would have cut of the game at the average number of rounds and would keep doing that, eventually you would make the game a bit harder on the average, as there wouldn't be any chance to play in a game which runs a bit longer. For some of the players who got their Immortal badge in an earlier game, it would have been easier than for any of the still wannabe Immortals. Just my two cents.
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