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#1220669 - Sun Feb 24 2019 01:27 PM Results & Standings .. F1 GP
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The first round of the 2019 F1 World Championships is on 17th March. Please reply to this thread to sign up.

Rules: Pick 3 drivers, from three different teams* for each race.

*as introduced in 2016

Points will be awarded based on the points your picks receive for the race.

For each race, five drivers will be designated as 'Seeded Drivers'. Only half-points will be awarded for these drivers.

Bonus Points: To be discussed in this thread

Default scores will be based on your picks for the previous race, with half-points for seeds applying.

Here's the calendar:`


Edited by gtho4 (Tue Jul 16 2019 07:44 PM)

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#1220670 - Sun Feb 24 2019 01:54 PM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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I'm in

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#1220697 - Sun Feb 24 2019 06:20 PM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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Back for another year.
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#1220741 - Mon Feb 25 2019 05:50 AM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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I've been looking forward to this reappearing, so I'm definitely in.

On the subject of potential bonuses - how about a bonus point for giving the top three in the correct order that they finish the race?

It would mean having to change the rules to state an order for our three choices, but would introduce more variation in picks given that people often select the same three drivers.

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#1220777 - Mon Feb 25 2019 02:21 PM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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Originally Posted By: Fifiona81
On the subject of potential bonuses - how about a bonus point for giving the top three in the correct order that they finish the race? It would mean having to change the rules to state an order for our three choices, but would introduce more variation in picks given that people often select the same three drivers.

I like the idea of a bonus for picking the first three in order .. do we go with a one point bonus or a three point bonus?

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#1220799 - Mon Feb 25 2019 05:40 PM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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Purely from the standpoint of having to keep track of order, how about this for an alternative:

One bonus point for the first tipper to pick any three driver combination (in any order). This would also make tippers think twice about choosing exactly the same combination as others.


Picking the podium (in any order) doesn't happen all that often, really. Last season a total of 14 tippers picked the podium, in seven different races (of 21). My suggestion would ensure at least some bonus points for every race.


Edited by spanishliz (Mon Feb 25 2019 05:47 PM)
Edit Reason: add podium stats

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#1220833 - Mon Feb 25 2019 11:04 PM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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>> Last season a total of 14 tippers picked the podium, in seven different races (of 21).


With those numbers, you should make it anybody who has the first three, rather than just the first tipper (which makes it a race to lodge picks, and we're all spread across the globe in different time zones).

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#1220854 - Tue Feb 26 2019 02:37 AM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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I’d also be concerned about having to worry about spotting the thread and racing to pick early. Given the total points on offer each round, I wouldn’t pick a leftover driver combination solely for a bonus of 1 or even 3 points.

When I said in the “right order”, I didn’t mean “on the podium” necessarily. If the first pick came 2nd, the second came 3rd and the third came 6th, I meant that would qualify for a bonus point. Although perhaps there would need to be a stipulation that they did all finish in the points to qualify.

If that seems too complicated to keep track of, then another option could be extending the picks to five (still with the one driver from each team rule). That might introduce more variety of picks, since people could afford to experiment a bit more with picks from outside the “big three”. Admittedly this would be a bigger change to the structure of the comp than introducing a bonus of some sort, so might not be the way to go either.

Maybe there’s no easy answer!

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#1220864 - Tue Feb 26 2019 08:57 AM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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Keeping track of more than three could become a bit daunting, but would be doable, I guess.

Keeping track of order would mean re-thinking my spreadsheet for calculating scores a bit.

I took "top three" and "first three" to mean "on the podium", which would be a bit easier to track than keeping track of the order of "any three".

Part of the reason I made the suggestion I did is that I got really tired of seeing the same combo picked multiple times, race after race. Because I only check the time to make sure the deadline has been met I didn't really think of time zones.

I'd really like to cut down on the number of races with six or more "winners".

I have to run off in a moment and catch a bus. Keep throwing in ideas and we'll come up with something.

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#1220898 - Tue Feb 26 2019 01:56 PM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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OK, been thinking about it. How about this:

3 point bonus for picking the podium in order (1, 2, 3)

2 point bonus for picking the podium drivers in any order

1 point bonus for any three driver combination picked in their finishing order


It's a bit more work for me, but I should be able to handle it smile

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#1220935 - Wed Feb 27 2019 12:38 AM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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The F1 has become so very predictable that it's easy to know before the season starts the teams which would finish top 3...I have actually written to F1 to see if there's some meaningful way the races can be organized so every driver has an equal chance of winning the championship (like have different constructor championship with their teams and then have all 20-24 drivers drive the same car for the driver's championship)

That said, I think if you can introduce some bonus here for picking a driver that's NOT from the top 3 teams, and that driver finishes in the top 5/10 (you decide), we get the bonus pomts (5 bonus points...1 point is too less to make any difference in this comp)

This way, we will also be looking at results and drivers of the "lesser mortal" teams too smile
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#1221070 - Thu Feb 28 2019 02:32 AM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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I like the three level bonus approach. It seems like a good way of breaking ties and minimising multiple winners without completely changing the structure of the comp.

F1 has always been a team as well as driver sport - but we can always hope for closer competition or a shake up of the order this year...

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#1221281 - Fri Mar 01 2019 09:09 PM F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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A three-level bonus system will add some spice, but it looks like a lot of work!

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#1221288 - Fri Mar 01 2019 10:44 PM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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Originally Posted By: gtho4

A three-level bonus system will add some spice, but it looks like a lot of work!


It looks like it, but in practice I've kept track of podiums since I started doing this, and seeing if they are in order is only one extra step. I've thought about how I'd do it and feel it will work.

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#1221356 - Sat Mar 02 2019 03:47 PM F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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  ok, ten 4!

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#1221786 - Wed Mar 06 2019 05:21 PM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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I'm working on putting the first few tipping threads up, I hope today or tomorrow. Just getting all the drivers straight smile

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#1221987 - Fri Mar 08 2019 11:17 AM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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First five tipping threads are up, first deadline is a week from today. Happy F1 Season!

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#1222064 - Sat Mar 09 2019 12:18 AM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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  I'm in!

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#1222077 - Sat Mar 09 2019 02:11 AM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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Haven't been around for a few years, I'm in this year smile

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#1222079 - Sat Mar 09 2019 02:38 AM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
spanishliz Offline
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Welcome back!

Thanks, gtho4, for doing the links.


Edited by spanishliz (Sat Mar 09 2019 02:38 AM)

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#1222084 - Sat Mar 09 2019 03:50 AM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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Thanks Liz smile

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#1222219 - Mon Mar 11 2019 01:48 AM Re: F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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I'm in.

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#1222334 - Tue Mar 12 2019 01:38 PM F1 GP 2019 - Sign Ups
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  yep, me too

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#1222837 - Sun Mar 17 2019 06:35 PM Re: Results & Standings .. F1 GP
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Round 1


Results – Australian GP, Melbourne
POSPTS DRIVERTIPSTIPPERS
1
13
Valtteri BOTTAS
1
spanishliz
2
9
Lewis HAMILTON
12
-
3
Max VERSTAPPEN
7
-
4
6
Sebastian VETTEL
8
-
5
10
Charles LECLERC
4
-
6
8
Kevin MAGNUSSEN
0
-
7
6
Nico HULKENBERG
0
-
8
2
Kimi RAIKKONEN
0
-
9
2Lance STROLL
0
-
101Daniil KVYAT
0
-


Tipping Comp. Standings
TWLWTIPPERLWPPTsTWP
1-Sypher-26½26½
2-gtho4-22½22½
2-Howie72-22½22½
2-PaulE-22½22½
2-srini701-22½22½
2-wwe84-22½22½
7-spanishliz-20½20½
8-Fifiona81-2020
9-George95-1919
9-szabs-1919
11-dg_dave-1515
11-LeoDaVinci-1515
11-ozzz2002-1515
Weekly Leader
WkLeader(s)
1Sypher


Hall of Fame
WkPtsName
126½Sypher
Wall of Shame
WkPtsName
115dg_dave, LeoDaVinci, ozzz2002


Weekly Report
  • Congratulations to this week’s winner, the first of the new season, Sypher, who benefited from picking the unseeded Ferrari driver.
  • Welcome back everyone, especially szabs who had been missing for awhile. It is good to see you all again!
  • Bottas picked up a point for fastest lap of the race, giving him a total of 26, which is halved here due to his being seeded.
  • The only bonus point this time goes to Fifiona81 whose picks finished in the order she chose them, though not on the podium. The bonus is included in her weekly score.
  • The Wooden Spoon goes to dg_dave, LeoDaVinci and ozzz2002, the only tippers to choose a non-finisher.
  • The next race is March 31st in Bahrain so remember to get your tips in .

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#1226868 - Sun Apr 14 2019 04:01 PM Re: Results & Standings .. F1 GP
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Posts: 22259
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Round 2


Results – Bahrain GP, Sakhir
POSPTS DRIVERTIPSTIPPERS
1
12½
Lewis HAMILTON
9
-
2
9
Valtteri BOTTAS
4
-
3
8
Charles LECLERC
0
-
4
6
Max VERSTAPPEN
2
Sypher, wwe84
5
5
Sebastian VETTEL
10
-
6
8
Lando NORRIS
0
-
7
6
Kimi RAIKKONEN
2
ozzz2002, srini701
8
4
Pierre GASLY
3
Fiona81, Howie72, spanishliz
9
2Alexander ALBON
0
-
101Sergio PEREZ
0
-


Tipping Comp. Standings
TWLWTIPPERLWPPTsTWP
11Sypher26½2046½
22srini70122½23½46
32Howie7222½21½44
48Fiona812021½41½
52gtho422½17½40
52PaulE22½17½40
72wwe8422½1638½
89George951917½36½
911ozzz20021518½33½
97spanishliz20½1333½
119szabs191433
1211dg_dave1517½32½
1211LeoDaVinci1517½32½
Weekly Leader
WkLeader(s)
1Sypher
2Sypher


Hall of Fame
WkPtsName
126½Sypher
223½srini701
Wall of Shame
WkPtsName
115dg_dave, LeoDaVinci, ozzz2002
213spanishliz


Weekly Report
  • Congratulations to this week’s winner, srini701, who now trails our leader by a mere half point.
  • The only bonus point this time goes to wwe84 whose picks finished in the order chosen, though not on the podium. The bonus is included in the weekly score.
  • The Wooden Spoon goes to spanishliz.
  • The next race was in China on 14 April and results will be up soon.


Edited by spanishliz (Sun Apr 14 2019 06:25 PM)

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