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#1244358 - Tue Oct 01 2019 04:45 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
WesleyCrusher Offline

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League D will show up once we have a day's worth of scores. A League D team isn't listed if it doesn't have any league activity or score (there are thousands of inactive teams), so on the 1st, that league will always seem empty.

And MiraJane, us Cats hunt down our trophies, we don't need test dummies smile
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#1244362 - Tue Oct 01 2019 05:41 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
Barbarini Offline
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The Yesterday's Results link on the Heroes page goes to an empty page.

https://www.funtrivia.com/heroes/tvt_thismonth.cfm?yest=1


Word Wizard "Pts Yest" results are still going to the Piece of Cake page.

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#1244391 - Wed Oct 02 2019 04:35 AM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
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I'm not able to find the drop down for GM Madness on the Team Stats for Oct. The other games have it, but not GMM.

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#1244531 - Thu Oct 03 2019 08:28 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
FrappMaster Offline
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Originally Posted By: vlk56pa
I'm not able to find the drop down for GM Madness on the Team Stats for Oct. The other games have it, but not GMM.

Agree, I noticed it as well when GMM was on League B in Sept. as well. May be a glitch in that game display.

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#1245062 - Tue Oct 08 2019 06:35 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
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For "hourly" games that have sessions that spans across two FunTrivia days (e.g. Gold Member Madness or Fill Me In), on which day does a player's score get counted for the purposes of TvT? Is it the actual day on which the game is played, or is it on the day when the scores are tallied?

For example, a Gold Member Madness session begins at 11pm FT Time. If a player plays it on Monday 11:30pm FTT, does the score count for Monday or for Tuesday when the session ends at 5am FTT?

Now that I've actually written this down, it sounds like the logical choice would be the actual day on which an individual player plays the game (so in the example, Monday). Can Terry or Wesley confirm this? Thanks!


Edited by gracious1 (Tue Oct 08 2019 06:37 PM)
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#1245082 - Tue Oct 08 2019 11:37 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
looney_tunes Offline
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I don't see how it could be counted until the game has ended and been scored. That is my assumption. It applies to hourly games that finish at a time other than the hour, too, such as Piece of Cake, Mixed, etc.
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#1245104 - Wed Oct 09 2019 07:45 AM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
namrewsna Offline
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Well unless I am reading the scoring wrong...TvT scoring for hourlies does not rely on your ranking within the hour, just the numeric game score, so it should not need to wait for a final hourly tally to count a result

Also seems like scoring could obviously be carried over to the next day but not back. It seems the daily TvT tally would be finalized for...lets say Piece of Cake...by 12:25 a.m. and no way to apply a result from a play at that time to the previous day.

It seems a little strange that in theory...you could have 25 hours worth of results count toward a single day of TvT. (In that scenario above...say you push the 11:30-12:29 result forward to the new day..but play the next 24 sets in the early half of the two straddled hours)..but that seems like the way it would work.

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#1245325 - Fri Oct 11 2019 06:20 AM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
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So I had an opportunity to easily test out this issue we've been discussing for the last few posts. I didnt get on much yesterday (October 10th) and only got to play a few TvT games just before and after midnight...so no interference from earlier play/ no need to try and remember if/when I had played previously. For all hourly (or 4 hour) games it was either going to show 1 or 0 plays. Here is how it went: (all times are FT time)

Fill Me In: played ~11:30 p.m.(reset time for that set was 12:15 am the next day) 1 play logged on TvT results for Oct. 10
Mixed game: played after 11:45 but before midnight...1 play is logged on TvT team results for Oct. 10
I'm the Expert: played shortly after midnight on Oct. 11 in the set opened at 11:45 on Oct 10. No results reported on the Oct 10 team TvT page. I assume this result is going to show on the Oct 11 report when it generates but I will post here if it happens to fall down a rabbit hole instead.





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#1245558 - Sat Oct 12 2019 07:20 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
namrewsna Offline
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Hmm...t lhat fill me in play actually didnt show up on the final report for Oct 11...

I am going to test a few more and will report back in a few days.

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#1245570 - Sat Oct 12 2019 08:32 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
gracious1 Offline
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Originally Posted By: namrewsna
Hmm...t lhat fill me in play actually didnt show up on the final report for Oct 11...

I am going to test a few more and will report back in a few days.


Looking forward to it!
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#1245574 - Sat Oct 12 2019 09:39 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
namrewsna Offline
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Oh heh...this is why we "write" things down...

Ignore my last post, .ir was Expert...not Fill Me In which I played after midnight in the set which straddled the change of day and it is on the results list for the 11th.

So it seems any play in a TvT active game counts toward the daywhen you play it..regardless of which day the set opened or closed on.

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#1246089 - Thu Oct 17 2019 06:09 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
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Is there a reason why we cannot drill down for scores on GMM?

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#1246090 - Thu Oct 17 2019 06:21 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
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windrush, try the GMM home page... 'yesterday'
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#1246363 - Sun Oct 20 2019 06:40 AM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
FrappMaster Offline
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Are the Gold games set to rotate, if so, is it random or on a schedule?

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#1246512 - Mon Oct 21 2019 08:40 AM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
moonraker2 Offline
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Originally Posted By: FrappMaster
Are the Gold games set to rotate, if so, is it random or on a schedule?


The Guidelines state:

The Team Heroes and the Daily game games are guaranteed to be part of each month's lineup.

The other selected games each month are a random mix of hourly and daily games, with certain games appearing more often in some leagues than others. One Gold Member game will be chosen each month for Leagues A, B, and C.

For example, League A is more likely to see more difficult / fringe games like "Fill Me In", and "Who's the Expert?". League D is more likely to see some of the more standard hourly games like "The Easy Game" and "The Mixed Game".

You never know though... we may throw a curve-ball now and then and increase or decrease the number or types of games for a special month here and there!
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#1246594 - Mon Oct 21 2019 08:52 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
FrappMaster Offline
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So I guess by using the word "random" in your response and the fact that league A had Obscurity last month, there's no way of knowing whether "world" is next for league A. I guess "madness" could run another month or obscurity could come back.

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#1246607 - Mon Oct 21 2019 11:26 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
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Or it could be Pot of Gold. Four games competing for the spot, one lucky winner. Unless the random element serves up two next month.
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#1246639 - Tue Oct 22 2019 03:24 AM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
WesleyCrusher Offline

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Random means random - anything could happen including a game hogging the spotlight for multiple months in a row (although, obviously, this would be less and less likely the longer the run).
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#1247030 - Fri Oct 25 2019 02:33 AM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
windrush Offline
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Again, on GMM, when I played today I noticed that there is no tick beside it; on checking, it confirms I have already played that set.

Also, I appear to be struggling to change screens in FT over the past couple of days; has anything changed? Being Oz, I have a very poor internet service, but my speedtest tells me that it is no worse than usual.
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I just checked on the Everything challenge, and there is no score registered for GMM, though I cannot replay it because my name is on the score sheet. This will possibly affect my T v T scores.


Edited by windrush (Fri Oct 25 2019 02:58 AM)

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#1247058 - Fri Oct 25 2019 08:51 AM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
Juggernaut314 Offline
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Wonder if it's a browser/resolution issue? With the extra icon for the monthly game my checkmark is there, but part of it goes past the box that appears when I hover the mouse over the Games tab.

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#1247098 - Fri Oct 25 2019 03:40 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
windrush Offline
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That wouldn't explain the fact that it wasn't registered on the Everything page. I didn't think to check yesterday evening after that game rolled over. I played then (early today FT time) and that score has been ticked.

I've just checked 'yesterday' (thanks, Postcards!) and it was recorded there.

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#1247242 - Sat Oct 26 2019 10:28 PM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
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In addition to the GMM issue listed by others, that the GMM ranking score isn't linked to the GMM game, it also isn't listed as /20 like the other games are.

Second, one of the links is wrong. The numerical score next to Word Wizard in the list of 16 games doesn't go to Word Wizard results, it goes to Piece of Cake results. It is linked as https://www.funtrivia.com/hourly2/tvt_yesterdayinfo.cfm?gid=6496 instead of https://www.funtrivia.com/word/tvt_yesterdayinfo.cfm?gid=6496. Not a big deal, but I couldn't figure out why the results from the one page were so different from the results of the other page until I realized it wasn't the right game.

Third, I will ask for the umpteenth time for a yesterday's ranks page like you have for all nine of the hourly games and Team Heroes for the other daily games.

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#1247270 - Sun Oct 27 2019 06:49 AM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
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Thanks for pointing out the wrong link.

As far as repeating requests "for the umpteenth time", I am however sure that will not alter priorities. We are aware that not everything is finished around the leagues and we will prioritize fixes and additions to the system as well as to the site in general by how we believe they will benefit the membership as a whole.


Edited by WesleyCrusher (Sun Oct 27 2019 06:54 AM)
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#1247966 - Fri Nov 01 2019 02:23 AM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
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I've noticed now that Who Am I? has come up as one of the team games for the third month in a row for League A? Is this a permanent game or is it just a random coincidence that it has appeared so often?

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#1247969 - Fri Nov 01 2019 03:55 AM Re: ATTN: TEAM VS TEAM STATS
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I'm showing a slight discrepancy between the final points listed on the "Last Month" page and the actual calculated final points from the page on the 31st and the team scores on the 31st. It's nothing major, and none of our games were close enough to matter, but I see some places where a 12 point score difference could make the difference in rankings, like between the Funsters and the Cat People in Who's the Smartest. In some of the games, the discrepancy is in our favor and in others, not so much. For example, I'm showing the Wizards finished with 15,433 points in Fill Me In while the "Last Month" page lists us as finishing with 15,421 points, a 12 point difference not in our favor. Going the other way, I show us as having scored 14,866 points in Who Am I while the "Last Month" page has us scoring 14,878 points, a 12 point difference in our favor. The largest discrepancy was 28 points, I think, not in our favor.

While I'm here, I'd like to request a "Last Month" page for the games so we can see the rank-ordered list of how each team did the previous month in each game. Team v. Team has/had this.

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