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#1254437 - Wed Jan 01 2020 09:07 AM Team vs Team
CoachLamb Offline
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For League A, all of the games for January are the exact same as last month. Is this intentional or has it just not updated properly?

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#1254440 - Wed Jan 01 2020 10:11 AM Re: Team vs Team
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Hmm that was unintentional. I have just regenerated the selected games.

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#1254441 - Wed Jan 01 2020 10:21 AM Re: Team vs Team
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Originally Posted By: Terry
Hmm that was unintentional. I have just regenerated the selected games.


Thanks, Terry! (And for everything you do to make and keep Fun Trivia a great site.)

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#1254467 - Thu Jan 02 2020 08:41 AM Re: Team vs Team
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That’s happened every month since new team game started.

I thought I had played all my team games yesterday and was then emailed late in the day by a team member to tell me games had changed halfway through day.
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#1254476 - Thu Jan 02 2020 11:27 AM Re: Team vs Team
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Yeah I have the same problem.

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#1254672 - Mon Jan 06 2020 01:52 AM Re: Team vs Team
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I would like to see more months without "Who Am I" as a game. Seems like the majority of months it has appeared, whereas "Mind Melt", which I really like, only came up for League A once.
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#1254682 - Mon Jan 06 2020 10:57 AM Re: Team vs Team
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Originally Posted By: gracious1
I would like to see more months without "Who Am I" as a game. Seems like the majority of months it has appeared, whereas "Mind Melt", which I really like, only came up for League A once.


My understanding is that aside from Team Heroes and the Daily Game (and possibly Who's the Smartest in Division A) which always appear, the rest are essentially random subject to the constraint that there will be 4 daily games and 4 games that can be played multiple times daily (that's for Division A, I don't know the criteria in the other divisions) with a limit of one Gold Member only game.

So your beef is with the random number generator for choosing Who Am I.

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#1254710 - Mon Jan 06 2020 05:17 PM Re: Team vs Team
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Originally Posted By: gracious1
I would like to see more months without "Who Am I" as a game. Seems like the majority of months it has appeared, whereas "Mind Melt", which I really like, only came up for League A once.



Some players prefer Who Am I? over Mind Melt. The good thing is that there's no constraint on everyone playing both games daily. There is not a large choice of Daily Games of to rotate between for League A. The system still has some bugs to be worked out for there to be a seamless change month to month. Give it a chance for a few months more. I'm sure Mind Melt will get its rotation back into the League A games soon. Meanwhile, enjoy playing it daily.

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#1255032 - Thu Jan 09 2020 08:48 PM Re: Team vs Team
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There's no constraint on anyone playing any game, but that isn't what I was talking about. If one chooses to help one's team, that means playing the designated games. And it doesn't change the fact that Who Am I has been in League A for every month except December, and Mind Melt has only shown up once, as far as I can remember.


Edited by gracious1 (Thu Jan 09 2020 08:49 PM)
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#1255033 - Thu Jan 09 2020 08:49 PM Re: Team vs Team
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Originally Posted By: andymuenz


So your beef is with the random number generator for choosing Who Am I.


Precisely.
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#1255104 - Fri Jan 10 2020 08:49 AM Re: Team vs Team
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Originally Posted By: gracious1
There's no constraint on anyone playing any game, but that isn't what I was talking about. If one chooses to help one's team, that means playing the designated games. And it doesn't change the fact that Who Am I has been in League A for every month except December, and Mind Melt has only shown up once, as far as I can remember.


No, one month we the New Questions Game. The second month of the new Team Leagues there wasn't much changed from the first month. People complained. After that, there have more games switched up.

So your real complaint is when Who Am I? is a selected team game you play Mind Melt for fun and then you have to invest, at most, two more minutes of your day playing Who Am I? to play a designated game?

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#1255124 - Fri Jan 10 2020 12:25 PM Re: Team vs Team
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Originally Posted By: MiraJane
So your real complaint is when Who Am I? is a selected team game you play Mind Melt for fun and then you have to invest, at most, two more minutes of your day playing Who Am I? to play a designated game?


Only two minutes for Who Am I? No wonder my scores are so low! :-)

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#1255131 - Fri Jan 10 2020 01:07 PM Re: Team vs Team
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That game was more fun...to me, when it was an hourly game. And it seemed easier.

Maybe it was because I was a new player back then?

Now I'm too old and senile to remember who I am half the time. smile


Who am I?

Who are you?
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#1255174 - Fri Jan 10 2020 06:01 PM Re: Team vs Team
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Originally Posted By: andymuenz
Originally Posted By: MiraJane
So your real complaint is when Who Am I? is a selected team game you play Mind Melt for fun and then you have to invest, at most, two more minutes of your day playing Who Am I? to play a designated game?


Only two minutes for Who Am I? No wonder my scores are so low! :-)



Mine are low because I know how often to give up finding an answer and make a rapid guess.


Edited by MiraJane (Fri Jan 10 2020 06:25 PM)
Edit Reason: If I took more time typing I wouldn't make errors.

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#1255194 - Fri Jan 10 2020 09:56 PM Re: Team vs Team
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If I took more time typing, I'd be spending more of my time typing and less time playing games. smile

I spent an hour at Wal-Mart today doing something that should have taken me maybe 10 to 15 minutes at the most. It was a display of humanity that which I had never seen before in my life.

That was an hour that is lost to eternity...
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#1255269 - Sun Jan 12 2020 12:13 AM Re: Team vs Team
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Terry, would it be possible to add a "Top 165" for yesterday's scores to the Team Heroes page?
Thanks!

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#1255464 - Tue Jan 14 2020 01:27 AM Re: Team vs Team
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Originally Posted By: MiraJane
Originally Posted By: gracious1
There's no constraint on anyone playing any game, but that isn't what I was talking about. If one chooses to help one's team, that means playing the designated games. And it doesn't change the fact that Who Am I has been in League A for every month except December, and Mind Melt has only shown up once, as far as I can remember.


No, one month we the New Questions Game. The second month of the new Team Leagues there wasn't much changed from the first month. People complained. After that, there have more games switched up.

So your real complaint is when Who Am I? is a selected team game you play Mind Melt for fun and then you have to invest, at most, two more minutes of your day playing Who Am I? to play a designated game?


Your snark is unwelcome.

EDIT: I have to elaborate, as your comment was completely unnecessary, and designed to be hurtful and to be insulting, in a very passive-aggressive way, as your remarks always are when I dare to post in public forum that you read regularly. I have to right to express my opinion about what I enjoy and what I don't enjoy without worrying about someone trying to cleverly put me down.

Responses such as yours have made the Message Boards and the Forums toxic.

You used to do this to me all the time on Message Board in the Cat People. If I expressed an opinion or made any kind of suggestion, you made a point of putting the post down, or making an oh-so-subtle remark designed to ridicule, while maintaining plausible deniability of trying to ridicule anybody, just expressing an opinion. Knock it off. Why the powers that be tolerate it, I'll never understand, but I won't tolerate it another second.


Edited by gracious1 (Tue Jan 14 2020 02:28 AM)
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#1255481 - Tue Jan 14 2020 05:58 AM Re: Team vs Team
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Originally Posted By: gracious1
Originally Posted By: MiraJane
Originally Posted By: gracious1
There's no constraint on anyone playing any game, but that isn't what I was talking about. If one chooses to help one's team, that means playing the designated games. And it doesn't change the fact that Who Am I has been in League A for every month except December, and Mind Melt has only shown up once, as far as I can remember.

No, one month we the New Questions Game. The second month of the new Team Leagues there wasn't much changed from the first month. People complained. After that, there have more games switched up.

So your real complaint is when Who Am I? is a selected team game you play Mind Melt for fun and then you have to invest, at most, two more minutes of your day playing Who Am I? to play a designated game?

Your snark is unwelcome.

EDIT: I have to elaborate, as your comment was completely unnecessary, and designed to be hurtful and to be insulting, in a very passive-aggressive way, as your remarks always are when I dare to post in public forum that you read regularly. I have to right to express my opinion about what I enjoy and what I don't enjoy without worrying about someone trying to cleverly put me down.

Responses such as yours have made the Message Boards and the Forums toxic.

You used to do this to me all the time on Message Board in the Cat People. If I expressed an opinion or made any kind of suggestion, you made a point of putting the post down, or making an oh-so-subtle remark designed to ridicule, while maintaining plausible deniability of trying to ridicule anybody, just expressing an opinion. Knock it off. Why the powers that be tolerate it, I'll never understand, but I won't tolerate it another second.

I second this message.

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#1255482 - Tue Jan 14 2020 05:59 AM Re: Team vs Team
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Looks like something is off with the scoring of the New Questions game.

I am from the team "The Internationals" in League B. When I look at the results of yesterday we have two players in ranks 17 and 111 and no credits for the TvT scoring.
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#1255496 - Tue Jan 14 2020 10:19 AM Re: Team vs Team
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Grace.

I had no intention of putting you down, being hurtful to you, or ridicule you. You read way too much into my comments. Please stop telling people who disagree with you or you spend too much time worrying about what they might possibly mean that they are passive aggressive.

If I wanted to do any of the above to you, there would be no deniability involved.

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#1255500 - Tue Jan 14 2020 12:19 PM Re: Team vs Team
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Originally Posted By: HairyBear
Originally Posted By: gracious1
Originally Posted By: MiraJane
Originally Posted By: gracious1
There's no constraint on anyone playing any game, but that isn't what I was talking about. If one chooses to help one's team, that means playing the designated games. And it doesn't change the fact that Who Am I has been in League A for every month except December, and Mind Melt has only shown up once, as far as I can remember.

No, one month we the New Questions Game. The second month of the new Team Leagues there wasn't much changed from the first month. People complained. After that, there have more games switched up.

So your real complaint is when Who Am I? is a selected team game you play Mind Melt for fun and then you have to invest, at most, two more minutes of your day playing Who Am I? to play a designated game?

Your snark is unwelcome.

EDIT: I have to elaborate, as your comment was completely unnecessary, and designed to be hurtful and to be insulting, in a very passive-aggressive way, as your remarks always are when I dare to post in public forum that you read regularly. I have to right to express my opinion about what I enjoy and what I don't enjoy without worrying about someone trying to cleverly put me down.

Responses such as yours have made the Message Boards and the Forums toxic.

You used to do this to me all the time on Message Board in the Cat People. If I expressed an opinion or made any kind of suggestion, you made a point of putting the post down, or making an oh-so-subtle remark designed to ridicule, while maintaining plausible deniability of trying to ridicule anybody, just expressing an opinion. Knock it off. Why the powers that be tolerate it, I'll never understand, but I won't tolerate it another second.

I second this message.



Somebody other than a moderator should probably leave this alone.
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#1255508 - Tue Jan 14 2020 02:57 PM Re: Team vs Team
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Originally Posted By: DireWolf74
Somebody other than a moderator should probably leave this alone.


As an admin, I will also leave this alone. Mostly.

MiraJane and gracious1, you two have been cat-fighting each other across the site over months and years. It's apparent you two don't agree with each other, so why don't you just ignore the respective other and move on?

It's clear you have very different views and you've both had brushes with "that's too much" in the past, whether it was on your dealings with each other or third parties.

I'll also say, that, strictly speaking as a team leader without any admin or moderator hat, I am very disappointed that a disagreement that affected only our team message board, has been dragged into public view like this. Even if this has been some time ago and one party has left the team since (not due to that dispute, I might add), it still paints the team in a bad light.
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#1255552 - Wed Jan 15 2020 03:44 AM Re: Team vs Team
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I still would like to know whether the problem I posted about earlier is a glitch in the accounting of the TvT contributions or only a glitch in the displaying.
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#1255553 - Wed Jan 15 2020 04:08 AM Re: Team vs Team
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I can only conjecture since an exact answer would require knowing the numbers before and after the day in question - past cumulative scores are not logged however, so without someone having saved pages, we can't look back at those.

However I have added up all cumulative scores on the NQG in League B and if I divide them by 14, we get an average of 5199 per day, which is consistent with the number of points that should be awarded every day (5160 pts for the first 100 players, plus up to 50 for the rest). Dividing by 13 (to check the assumption that one day way not scored) would yield 5599 per day, an impossible number.

So that day was most certainly scored. It seems however that the addition of the tiers to 2 Years of New has upset some daily stats on that day, so the daily lists were not accurate.

It looks as if, most likely, everything was put into the cumulative score correctly and it was just a display issue.


Edited by WesleyCrusher (Wed Jan 15 2020 04:09 AM)
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#1255555 - Wed Jan 15 2020 05:30 AM Re: Team vs Team
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Thanks for looking into this, Wesley. And today's display looks ok.
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