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#1284836 - Thu Mar 11 2021 08:10 AM Results & Standings .. March Madness
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Last year's tipping comp was cancelled. This year's will be at the same site as last year. A bracket for 2021 has been setup once again at cbssports.com .. for those of us who played last year, you're half-way there, as invite emails have been sent by csbssports.com to all of last year's participants (using last year's email addresses). The email does not display your reg'd cbs ID.
    The scoring system remains unchanged. There are 63 games in
    this comp; we pick all of them in one go on the cbssports.com website:

    1st Round (32 games) : 1 pt
    2nd Round (16 games) : 2 pts
    3rd Round ( 8 games) : 3 pts (regional semis ) Sweet Sixteen
    4th Round ( 4 games) : 4 pts (regional finals) Elite Eight
    5th Round ( 2 games) : 6 pts (national semis ) Final Four
    6th Round ( 1 game ) : 9 pts (national final)

    Seedings: additional pts added for each correct pick, being the team's seed.
Link to comp at cbs: http://ftmm2004.mayhem.cbssports.com
but if that doesn't work, try this link: http://ftmm2004.mayhem.cbssports.com/e
If you've sucessfully logged in, you will see this in the top LH corner of the screen: 2021 Comp FT
  • if you'd like to join the Madness tipping comp but do not have a cbssports ID, there's a link on that page to register. You must have a cbs ID to play in this comp! Please note - you may, but don't have to, use your real name to register (surname, first name); but please pick something for those two fields that looks like your FT username (so that we know who you are).
  • this also applies to those who played last year, but can't remember their ID and/or have changed their email address and thus can't retrieve their password (which they've forgotten) .. you will need to re-register.
  • please check your reg'd email address in Options after you login.
This year's Madness starts on Friday, March 19 at 12:00 noon and the final is on Monday, April 5. The bracket will open for tipping when the field is inserted by cbssports.com, which should happen on Sunday, March 14. However, the last four teams to qualify will not be known until Thursday (they'll enter the comp as the four #16 seeds) .. btw a #16 seed has never won a game against their #1 seed opponent since the NCAA started the current Madness format in 1985, until 2019, when UMBC beat Virginia 74-54 .. #16 seeds are now 1-135 all-time.
    Sunday 14th March: the full field of 68, seedings and bracket are released.
    Last Four play-in: Thu 18 March
    now aka First Four
    1st Round: Fri-Sat March 19-20
    2nd Round: Sun-Mon March 21-22
    3rd Round: Sat-Sun March 27-28
    4th Round: Mon-Tue March 29-30
    Final Four: Saturday 3rd April
    Championship: Monday 5th April at 9:00pm
    Final Four is at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis IN.
    DEADLINE: cbssports.com will close the bracket of 63 picks at noon EDT on Friday, March 19th.
    Rankings: http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1 and here: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings
This year's tipping comp is the 19th edition of March Madness! No one has retained their title in this comp and N-Bomb is the only person to win it twice (2011 and 2017) .. dg_dave won the 2019 comp, silver went to N-Bomb and Sypher collected the bronze medal.

Good luck remembering your password (if you receive the email) or your ID (if you're reg'd but have changed your email address) .. and good luck registering if you're new! To confirm you're in and that everything's hunky dory, please post in this thread (the Group Message Board at cbssports seems to have disappeared as they've redesigned the site's layout). Good luck to all of us; and may the best man or best woman win!

      Since 1985, when the NCAA started the present KO format with 64 teams, no-one has had a perfect bracket of 63/63 correct (per cbssports.com). The best they've seen is 55/63 (the best here at FT is 51/63 by Howie72 back in 2007). For the frustrated actuaries amongst us: there are 9.2 quintillion combinations for a 63-game bracket, aka 2^63 ... 9,223,372,036,854,775,808
      www.ncaa.com/bracketiq/perfect-ncaa-bracket-absurd-odds-march-madness


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#1284842 - Thu Mar 11 2021 08:46 AM NCAA March Madness .. sign-in
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This year's tipping comp is the 19th edition of March Madness! No one has retained their title in this comp and N-Bomb is the only person to win it twice (2011 and 2017). The winner of the 2008 comp, ralzzz, and the winner of the 2015 comp, toocool4u, hold the record for the biggest winning margin (see summary tables below) .. and doomed won bronze in 2008 the hard way; he failed to pick any of the Final Four!

Eleven years later, dg_dave went one better .. he won the 2019 comp without picking any of the Final Four! Howie72 holds the record for the most correct picks with 51/63, achieved in the 2007 comp, and the fewest correct picks for gold was 32/63 by blinkybill in 2006.

2002 LordAndry gtho4 TemplarLLM
2003 izzi gtho4 rudogg
2004 wez Sarah606 gtho4
2005 ElfTwinkle kevinatilusa linkan
2006 Blinkybill LeoDaVinci ElfTwinkle
2007 Howie72 dg_dave Nannanut
2008 ralzzz LeoDaVinci doomed
2009 jonnowales dg_dave Sypher
2010 illiniman14 LeoDaVinci jonnowales
2011 N-Bomb rxbigdawg toocool4u
2012 George95 BxBarracuda Howie72
2013 Sarah606 BxBarracuda LeoDaVinci
2014 themonarch illiniman14 George95
2015 toocool4u LeoDaVinci gtho4
2016 kevinatilusa LeoDaVinci yoyoandcigs
2017 N-Bomb LeoDaVinci illiniman14
2018 gtho4 N-Bomb George95
2019 dg_dave N-Bomb Sypher
2020


2002
2003
2004
2005
Lord Andry
gtho4
TemplarLLM
Sypher
thejazzkickazz
38 64
39 62
37 60
34 58
35 56
izzi
gtho4
rudogg
marchmadness
ElfTwinkle
46 59
45 53
42 49
40 47
39 47
wez
Sarah606
gtho4
izzi
JuniorTheJaws
37 216
39 212
41 208
40 195
28 185
ElfTwinkle
kevinatilusa . .
linkan
Sarah606
Blinkybill
43 220
41 212
38 194
37 183
26 181
2006
2007
2008
2009
Blinkybill
LeoDaVinci
ElfTwinkle . .
gtho4
dg_dave
32 205
33 189
39 189
36 184
34 181
Howie72
dg_dave
Nannanut
Blinkybill
DakotaNorth
51 260
50 253
50 244
48 235
47 226
ralzzz
LeoDaVinci
doomed
Nannanut
JuniorTheJaws
46 243
43 223
42 215
44 213
43 212
jonnowales
dg_dave
Sypher
ralzzz
LeoDaVinci
49 256
46 248
47 238
44 219
42 218
2010
2011
2012
2013
illiniman14
LeoDaVinci
jonnowales
themonarch
kevinatilusa . .
39 223
39 221
39 219
39 213
38 210
N-Bomb
rxbigdawg
toocool4u
Sypher
illiniman14
38 210
35 192
37 191
37 180
35 178
George95
BxBarracuda
Howie72
themonarch
srini701
41 237
38 232
41 226
38 220
40 216
Sarah606
BxBarracuda
LeoDaVinci
ozzz2002
N-Bomb
42 232
37 224
41 221
39 219
39 210
2014
2015
2016
2017
themonarch
illiniman14
George95
N-Bomb
Howie72
39 218
38 215
39 213
38 207
37 204
toocool4u
LeoDaVinci
gtho4
srini701
illiniman14
42 239
41 219
41 213
41 212
40 206
kevinatilusa
LeoDaVinci
yoyoandcigs
N-Bomb
srini701
42 249
40 232
40 228
40 221
40 217
N-Bomb
LeoDaVinci
illiniman14
gtho4
Howie72
46 254
43 238
41 221
42 220
39 217
2018
2019
2020
gtho4
N-Bomb
George95
Howie72
ElfTwinkle
37 201
37 198
34 193
36 191
37 189
dg_dave
N-Bomb
Sypher
LeoDaVinci
Howie72
44 246
44 237
41 236
42 234
42 231










pts for first 2 comps were 1-1-2-3-4-5 plus seedings
then from 2004 onwards 1-2-3-4-6-9 plus seedings
2006 : no-one picked any of the Final Four, not one


Edited by gtho4 (Thu Mar 11 2021 06:02 PM)

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#1284993 - Sat Mar 13 2021 09:28 AM Re: NCAA March Madness .. sign-in
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I wonder how many will sign-in for this year's comp.









Edited by gtho4 (Sun Mar 14 2021 06:55 AM)

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#1285078 - Sun Mar 14 2021 05:26 PM Re: NCAA March Madness .. sign-in
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Originally Posted By: gtho4
I wonder how many will sign-in for this year's comp.


I got the email this morning.
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#1285085 - Sun Mar 14 2021 06:15 PM Re: NCAA March Madness .. sign-in
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I'm in. I even remembered my password! smile
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#1285162 - Mon Mar 15 2021 12:42 PM Re: NCAA March Madness .. sign-in
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Bracket has been filled !!
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#1285204 - Mon Mar 15 2021 10:16 PM Re: NCAA March Madness .. sign-in
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Oh hey everybody. Long time no see. I put in my bracket.

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#1285222 - Tue Mar 16 2021 07:13 AM Re: NCAA March Madness .. sign-in
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I think I'm in.
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#1285226 - Tue Mar 16 2021 07:44 AM NCAA March Madness .. sign-in
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Originally Posted By: illiniman14
Oh hey everybody. Long time no see. I put in my bracket.
Hey there!


Mine's done. I think there are seven of us who've done it .. there's a counter
on the Standings page, which moved from 6 to 7 when I hit the submit button.

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#1285233 - Tue Mar 16 2021 08:28 AM Re: NCAA March Madness .. sign-in
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Originally Posted By: illiniman14
Oh hey everybody. Long time no see. I put in my bracket.


How you been, illiniman??
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#1285306 - Tue Mar 16 2021 10:54 PM Re: NCAA March Madness .. sign-in
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Originally Posted By: dg_dave


How you been, illiniman??


Busy busy busy, but starting to get my head above water. Having the Tourney happen is a nice return to normalcy.

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#1285330 - Wed Mar 17 2021 12:29 PM Re: NCAA March Madness .. sign-in
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I'm in too smile
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#1285502 - Fri Mar 19 2021 08:04 PM Results & Standings .. March Madness
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it. : https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/if-it-ain-t-broke-don-t-fix-it

cbs have scored a spectacular own goal by redoing, rewriting and "updating" their website. We were able to
see prior year results and standings .. 16 years of history. That's gone. There was a group message board.
That's gone. We were able to see everyone else's brackets after lock-down. That's gone:

Quote:
How do I see if someone has submitted brackets in my pool?
Unfortunately, you will only be able to see who has submitted brackets after brackets lock on Friday, March 19 at 12:15pm EST. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you. We hope to add this feature back to the game in the future.

This means that the usual results post for each day's play is now impossible. We're all flying blind. All we can
see is the pts each of us have scored and where we are on the ladder, but not how everyone got there (apart
from your own).

A total of 12 people submitted brackets:
    dg_dave
    George95
    gtho4
    Howie72
    illiniman14
    LeoDaVinci
    N-Bomb
    ozzz2002
    srini701
    Sypher
    themonarch
    yoyoandcigs
I think I've got the FT names right. In the good old days, before their own goal, I could look at prior year results
on cbs and compare them to the FT results, and workout who was who. Not anymore.

Let me know if your name's not on the above list (aka which one's wrong).


Edited by gtho4 (Fri Mar 19 2021 10:55 PM)

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#1285504 - Fri Mar 19 2021 08:15 PM Re: Results & Standings .. March Madness
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With the number of upsets so far, I don't even want to see my bracket....

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#1285517 - Sat Mar 20 2021 06:44 AM Results & Standings .. March Madness
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12 players lodged tips

March Madness Day 1
half-way through 1st Round

Fri-Sat
Sun-Mon
Thu-Fri
Sat-Sun
Satuday
Monday
Mar 19-20
Mar 21-22
Mar 25-26
Mar 27-28
April 3
April 5
1st Round
2nd Round
3rd Round
4th Round
5th Round
6th Round
32 games
16 games
8 games
4 games
2 games
1 game
1 pt
2 pts
3 pts
4 pts
6 pts
9 pts


Regional Semi-Finals
Regional Finals
National Semi-Finals
National Final


Sweet Sixteen
Elite Eight
Final Four
Seedings: for a correct pick, teams' seeding is added to above ptsFinal is Midwest/West vs. East/South


Results
picks
seeds
49-78
55-79
56-87
75-72
68-85
60-69
67-84
78-62
60-71
63-73
78-69
53-65
70-75
70-56
85-62
60-56
12
12
12
0
12
12
12

6
7
9
2
9
7
1
6
10
12
12
24
0
36
48
36
66
56
45
26
54
49
12
54
70
16v1 Drexel v Illinois
16v1 Hartford v Baylor
15v2 Cleveland v Houston
15v2 Oral Roberts v Ohio State
14v3 Colgate v Arkansas
13v4 Liberty v Oklahoma State
14v3 Morehead St v W Virginia
11v6 Syracuse v San Diego
  9v8 Ga Tech v Loyola Chicago
12v5 Winthrop v Villanova
13v4 North Texas v Purdue
11v6 Utah State v Texas Tech
10v7 Virginia Tech v Florida
12v5 Oregon State v Tennessee
  9v8 Wisconsin v North Carolina
10v7 Rutgers v Clemson









George95 Howie72 yoyoandcigs
themonarch LeoDaVinci  
Sypher N-Bomb George95

themonarch

Sypher gtho4
129
600= 729


Standings

LW TW | | |
----- ------ |LP| |----------------------
TW LW hi-lo picks pts pks pts | | mk mpt | winner loser
----- ----- ----- day 1 ----- | | |----------------------
1 1-1 themonarch 00 00 15 110 15 110| | 538 | 5 Villanova 10 VCU
2 2-2 yoyoandcigs 00 00 12 77 12 77 | | 347 | 1 Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
3 3-3 ozzz2002 00 00 12 74 12 74 | | 341 | 2*Ohio State 3 Texas
4 4-4 LeoDaVinci 00 00 11 70 11 70 | | 347 | 1 Michigan 2 Houston
5 5-5 dg_dave 00 00 11 66 11 66 | | 324 | 2*Ohio State 1 Gonzaga
6 6-6 srini701 00 00 11 64 11 64 | | 301 | 1 Michigan 1 Illinois
7 7-7 illiniman14 00 00 11 61 11 61 | | 317 | 1 Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
8 8-8 N-Bomb 00 00 10 56 10 56 | | 348 | 1 Gonzaga 8 Loyola
9 9-9 George95 00 00 9 48 9 48 | | 304 | 1 Gonzaga 4 Ok State
10 10-10 Howie72 00 00 9 47 9 47 | | 297 | 1 Gonzaga 1 Illinois
11 11-11 Sypher 00 00 9 44 9 44 | | 292 | 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor
12 12-12 gtho4 00 00 9 42 9 42 | | 300 | 1 Gonzaga 2 Tennessee
129 729 | | |
perfect picks 16 113 16 113| | |
| | |

LP = live picks remaining (47 games)
mk = maximum number correct picks, if all remaining are correct.
mpt= maximum points if all remaining picks are correct.
@ = identical picks winner and runner-up (last 3 games).
* = this team has been eliminated.


Final Four
     
| East West South Midwest
|-------------- ------------- ------------- -------------
dg_dave | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 5*Tennessee
George95 | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 3 Arkansas 4 Ok State
gtho4 | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 2 Houston
Howie72 @ | 3 Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 1 Illinois
illiniman14 @ | 3 Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 1 Illinois
LeoDaVinci | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 5 Villanova 2 Houston
N-Bomb | 2 Connecticut 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 8 Loyola
ozzz2002 | 3 Texas 3 Kansas 2*Ohio State 2 Houston
srini701 | 1 Michigan 3 Kansas 1 Baylor 1 Illinois
Sypher | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1 Illinois
themonarch | 8 BYU 10 VCU 5 Villanova 11 Syracuse
yoyoandcigs | 3 Texas 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1 Illinois


@ identical Final Four picks.
* this team has been eliminated.




Last comp, back in 2019, had 18 runners .. 12 are back for another dose, with six no shows" ElfTwinkle, kevinatiluda, linkan, terraorca and toocool4u. N-Bomb is the only player who's won this twice over the last 19 years. No-one has retained their title .. dg_dave, the defending titleholder, will have a go at it this year.

After just one day, themonarch picked 15/16 and is in triple figures already, with a lead of 33 points!! He won this in 2014 and will join N-Bomb if he's still there at the finish.

It's still very early days but, if all his picks bear fruit, the monarch may win this by an outrageous margin of over 200 pts. We have no idea how many live picks anyone has as cbs have, in their wisdom, ditched that feature when they decided to update the website.

Anyway, here's one scenario: if themonarch fails to pick any of the Final Four, he'll score zero points for the last seven games but will finish with 538-71 = 467 pts if all his prior picks bear fruit, which is still 120 points ahead of the next best mpt figures (yoyoandcigs). Is his lead after Day One so big than no-one can mow him down?

Originally Posted By: Howie72
With the number of upsets so far, I don't even want to see my bracket....

To ensure Howie72 didn't feel left out, I dug around the website for a while and hit every link to, eventually, find everyone's picks. However, they weren't in a printable bracket format (like your own picks) .. well done cbs .. so I spent a few hours killing trees trying to print everyone's picks. Portrait was a waste of time, as the cbs web designer ensured ctrl-A failed to work & the far right of each page disappeared when printing (three pages of junk per person). I didn't realise there was a missing bit on every page until I'd finished printing.

Landscape was no better, IE didn't help and Chrome didn't help (even when scaling the page to 60%). I somehow ended up in MS Edge by mistake and the print scaling in there allowed everyone's bracket to print onto two pages in landscape. As ctrl-A was still disabled, scrolling down the webpage for p2 of the print was an intricate exercise. Far out. Shoot me.





Edited by gtho4 (Sat Mar 20 2021 01:07 PM)
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#1285590 - Sun Mar 21 2021 05:14 AM Re: Results & Standings .. March Madness
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Originally Posted By: Howie72
With the number of upsets so far, I don't even want to see my bracket....


With teams from two cities I've lived in winning, a lot of brackets are busted (Oral Roberts is in Tulsa, and ACU in Abilene). I was in Tulsa in the 1980s and graduated high school in Abilene.
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#1285595 - Sun Mar 21 2021 08:11 AM Results & Standings .. March Madness
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12 players lodged tips

March Madness Day 2
end of 1st Round

Fri-Sat
Sun-Mon
Thu-Fri
Sat-Sun
Satuday
Monday
Mar 19-20
Mar 21-22
Mar 25-26
Mar 27-28
April 3
April 5
1st Round
2nd Round
3rd Round
4th Round
5th Round
6th Round
32 games
16 games
8 games
4 games
2 games
1 game
1 pt
2 pts
3 pts
4 pts
6 pts
9 pts


Regional Semi-Finals
Regional Finals
National Semi-Finals
National Final


Sweet Sixteen
Elite Eight
Final Four
Seedings: for a correct pick, teams' seeding is added to above ptsFinal is Midwest/West vs. East/South


Results
picks
seeds
84-93
55-68
74-86
53-52
54-64
62-58
62-63
73-96
61-76
66-82
56-72
63-54
68-72
55-98
73-62
00-99
11
12
12
0

11
3
10
5
8
12

11
5
4
12

2
7
33
24
24
0
44
39
50
25
64
12
66
50
32
12
22
49
14v3 Eastern Wash v Kansas
15v2 Iona v Alabama
15v2 Grand Canyon v Iowa
14v3 Abilene v Texas
13v4 UNCG v Florida State
13v4 Ohio v Virginia
12v5 UCSB v Creighton
12v5 Georgetown v Colorado
9v8   St Bonaventure v LSU
16v1 Texas Southern v Michigan
11v6 Drake v Southn California
10v7 Maryland v Connecticut
9v8   Missouri v Oklahoma
16v1 Norfolk State v Gonzaga
11v6 UCLA v Brigham Young
10v7 Virginia Cwealth v Oregon
the monarch



themonarch
ozzz2002 Howie72 illiniman14
themonarch Sypher
ozzz2002  Howie72  N-Bomb LeoDaVinci srini701
themonarch Howie72 N-Bomb gtho4

yoyoandcigs
ozzz2002  Sypher  dg_dave  LeoDaVinci srini701
ozzz2002  Sypher  N-Bomb yoyoandcgs

Howie72 yoyoandcigs
themonarch Sypher N-Bomb dg_dave srini701
125
546= 671
VCU v Oregon was a no contest due to
covid issues at Virginia Commonwealth


Standings

LW TW | | |
----- ------ |LP| |----------------------
TW LW hi-lo picks pts pks pts | | mk mpt | winner loser
----- ----- ----- day 2 ----- | | |----------------------
1 3 1-3 ozzz2002 12 74 14 89 26 163 | | 303 | 2*Ohio State 3*Texas
2 2 2-2 yoyoandcigs 12 77 11 63 23 140 | | 272 | 1 Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
3 4 3-4 LeoDaVinci 11 70 12 66 23 136 | | 304 | 1 Michigan 2 Houston
4 1 1-4 themonarch 15 111 5 17 20 127 | | 275 | 5 Villanova 10 VCU
5 7 5-7 illiniman14 11 61 11 63 22 124 | | 257 | 1 Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
6 6 6-6 srini701 11 64 11 58 22 122 | | 247 | 1 Michigan 1 Illinois
7 10 7-10 Howie72 9 47 12 72 21 119 | | 247 | 1 Gonzaga 1 Illinois
8 5 5-8 dg_dave 11 66 10 52 21 118 | | 249 | 2*Ohio State 1 Gonzaga
9 8 8-9 N-Bomb 10 56 10 47 20 103 | | 259 | 1 Gonzaga 8 Loyola
10 11 10-11 Sypher 9 44 10 55 19 99 | | 228 | 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor
11 9 9-11 George95 9 48 10 49 19 97 | | 249 | 1 Gonzaga 4 Ok State
12 12 12-12 gtho4 9 42 9 40 18 82 | | 229 | 1 Gonzaga 2 Tennessee
125 671 | | |
perfect pick 16 113 16 116 32 229 | | |
| | |

LP = live picks remaining (31 games)
mk = maximum number correct picks, if all remaining are correct.
mpt= maximum points if all remaining picks are correct.
@ = identical picks winner and runner-up (last 3 games).
* = this team has been eliminated.


Final Four
     
| East West South Midwest
|-------------- ------------- ------------- -------------
dg_dave | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 5*Tennessee
George95 | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 3 Arkansas 4 Ok State
gtho4 | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 2 Houston
Howie72 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 1 Illinois
illiniman14 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 1 Illinois
LeoDaVinci | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 5 Villanova 2 Houston
N-Bomb | 2 Connecticut 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 8 Loyola
ozzz2002 | 3*Texas 3 Kansas 2*Ohio State 2 Houston
srini701 | 1 Michigan 3 Kansas 1 Baylor 1 Illinois
Sypher | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1 Illinois
themonarch | 8*BYU 10*VCU 5 Villanova 11 Syracuse
yoyoandcigs | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1 Illinois


@ identical Final Four picks.
* this team has been eliminated.




Yesteday themonarch hit pay dirt with upsets galore. Today it's ozzz2002. He was in 3rd place yesterday 37 points behind themonarch. Today he's 36 pts in front of him (aka a 73 pt turnaround) .. yoyoandcigs retains 2nd place and LeoDaVinci moves up into 3rd, pushing themonarch back to 4th.

At the other end, gtho4 follows up yesterday's wooden spoon with another one. He has his feet firmly planted, encased in cement, on the bottom rung of the ladder. He was the only player who didn't participate in musical chairs .. no-one kept their spot from yesterday, apart from gtho4r.

Neither ozzz2002 nor yoyoandcigs have won this comp (yoyoandcigs finished on the podium in 2016 for a bronze medal). No-one has retained their title (the defending titleholder, dg_dave, is now in the bottom half of the table).

For ozzz2002 to win this he'll be doing it the hard way .. he has no live picks for the winner, no live picks for the two finalists, and only two of his Final Four are still live (aka he has just two live picks for the last seven games). LeoDaVinci, who has the best mpt figures, is the only one in the first five with seven live picks for the last seven games. The next player with a complete set is srini701 in 6th place and then George95 in 11th.

We have no idea how many live picks anyone has as cbs ditched that feature when they decided to update the website.

Sypher and gtho4 are favourites to be the first two eliminated from the comp; and retire to the grandstand as spectators. They have the two lowest mpt numbers but, curiously, both of them have seven live picks for the last seven games.




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#1285626 - Sun Mar 21 2021 07:41 PM Re: Results & Standings .. March Madness
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I made three changes in the seconds before the brackets were locked, and those three changes cost me 31 points. mad Next year, I'll submit my first instincts bracket!

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#1285631 - Mon Mar 22 2021 03:58 AM Results & Standings .. March Madness
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March Madness Day 3
half way through 2nd Round

Fri-Sat
Sun-Mon
Thu-Fri
Sat-Sun
Satuday
Monday
Mar 19-20
Mar 21-22
Mar 25-26
Mar 27-28
April 3
April 5
1st Round
2nd Round
3rd Round
4th Round
5th Round
6th Round
32 games
16 games
8 games
4 games
2 games
1 game
1 pt
2 pts
3 pts
4 pts
6 pts
9 pts


Regional Semi-Finals
Regional Finals
National Semi-Finals
National Final


Sweet Sixteen
Elite Eight
Final Four
Seedings: for a correct pick, teams' seeding is added to above ptsFinal is Midwest/West vs. East/South


Results
picks
seeds
70-67
71-58
63-76
75-72
66-68
60-63
81-78
61-84
0
3
8
3
7
12
0

7
0
24
8
33
21
24
0
35
12v4 Oregon State v Ok State
  8v1 Loyola Chicago v Illinois
  9v1 Wisconsin v Baylor
11v3 Syracuse v West Virginia
  6v3 Texas Tech v Arkansas
10v2 Rutgers v Houston
15v7 Oral Roberts v Florida
13v5 North Texas v Villanova

themonarch N-Bomb gtho4
themonarch N-Bomb George95 ozzz2002
themonarch dg_dave LeoDaVinci
themonarch dg_dave LeoDaVinci illiniman14 Howie72


Howie72 yoyoandcigs George95 illiniman14 Sypher
40
14540x2 + 145 = 225


Standings

LW TW | | |
----- ------ |LP| |----------------------
TW LW hi-lo picks pts pks pts | | mk mpt | winner loser
----- ----- ----- day 3 ----- | | |----------------------
1 1 1-3 ozzz2002 26 163 3 16 29 179 | | 268 | 2*Ohio State 3*Texas
2 3 2-4 LeoDaVinci 23 136 4 27 27 163 | | 280 | 1 Michigan 2 Houston
3 4 1-4 themonarch 20 127 4 34 24 161 | | 256 | 5 Villanova 10 VCU
4 2 2-4 yoyoandcigs 23 140 3 12 26 152 | | 238 | 1*Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
5 8 5-8 dg_dave 21 118 4 27 25 145 | | 238 | 2*Ohio State 1 Gonzaga
6 6 6-6 srini701 22 122 4 19 26 141 | | 223 | 1 Michigan 1*Illinois
7 5 5-7 illiniman14 22 124 2 7 24 131 | | 209 | 1*Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
8 9 8-9 N-Bomb 20 103 4 26 24 129 | | 236 | 1 Gonzaga 8 Loyola
9 7 7-10 Howie72 21 119 2 7 23 126 | | 220 | 1 Gonzaga 1*Illinois
10 12 10-12 gtho4 18 82 5 29 23 111 | | 229 | 1 Gonzaga 2 Houston
11 10 10-11 Sypher 19 99 3 12 22 111 | | 216 | 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor
12 11 9-12 George95 19 97 2 9 21 106 | | 249 | 1 Gonzaga 4 Ok State
40 225 | | |
perfect pick 32 229 16 89 48 317 | | |
| | |

LP = live picks remaining (31 games)
mk = maximum number correct picks, if all remaining are correct.
mpt= maximum points if all remaining picks are correct.
@ = identical picks winner and runner-up (last 3 games).
* = this team has been eliminated.


Final Four
     
| East West South Midwest
|-------------- ------------- ------------- -------------
dg_dave | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 5*Tennessee
George95 | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 3 Arkansas 4*Ok State
gtho4 | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 2 Houston
Howie72 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 1*Illinois
illiniman14 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 1*Illinois
LeoDaVinci | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 5 Villanova 2 Houston
N-Bomb | 2 Connecticut 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 8 Loyola
ozzz2002 | 3*Texas 3 Kansas 2*Ohio State 2 Houston
srini701 | 1 Michigan 3 Kansas 1 Baylor 1*Illinois
Sypher | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1*Illinois
themonarch | 8*BYU 10*VCU 5 Villanova 11 Syracuse
yoyoandcigs | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1*Illinois


@ identical Final Four picks.
* this team has been eliminated.




ozzz2002 retains his lead at the end of Day 3 but with a reduced margin. LeoDaVinci moves into 2nd place and themonarch is back on the podium (he won Day 3 with 34 points), which pushed yoyoandcigs down from 2nd to 4th.

Apart from ozzz2002 & srini701, it was another edition of musical chairs .. srini701 was 6th at the end of Day 1, sixth at the end of Day 3 .. and is still there at the end of Day 3. He hasn't moved one inch.

LeoDaVinci has never won this, but he's finished on the podium seven times (for six silver and one bronze). He still has the best mpt figures and seven live picks for the last seven games .. gtho4 is the other player with seven live for the last seven, but it won't do him much good where he is, two off the bottom. Everyone else has lost a Final Four pick, or two.

Six of the 12 players still have three live picks for the last three games. We have no idea how many live picks (in total) anyone has as that feature was ditched by cbs when they decided to update the website.




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#1285676 - Tue Mar 23 2021 01:34 AM Re: Results & Standings .. March Madness
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#1285696 - Tue Mar 23 2021 07:32 AM Results & Standings .. March Madness
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March Madness Day 4
end of 2nd Round

Fri-Sat
Sun-Mon
Thu-Fri
Sat-Sun
Satuday
Monday
Mar 19-20
Mar 21-22
Mar 25-26
Mar 27-28
April 3
April 5
1st Round
2nd Round
3rd Round
4th Round
5th Round
6th Round
32 games
16 games
8 games
4 games
2 games
1 game
1 pt
2 pts
3 pts
4 pts
6 pts
9 pts


Regional Semi-Finals
Regional Finals
National Semi-Finals
National Final


Sweet Sixteen
Elite Eight
Final Four
Seedings: for a correct pick, teams' seeding is added to above ptsFinal is West/East vs. South/Mid-West


Results
picks
seeds
85-81
95-80
71-87
47-67
58-72
78-86
53-71
77-96
3
1
12
0

2
9
9
8
18
7
12
0
10
9
36
16
  6v3   Sthn California v Kansas
  7v2   Oregon v Iowa
  8v1   Oklahoma v Gonzaga
14v11 Abilene v UCLA
13v5   Ohio v Creighton
  8v1   Louisiana St v Michigan
  5v4   Colorado v Florida State
10v2   Maryland v Alabama
George95 LeoDaVinci N-Bomb
yoyandcigs


George95 LeoDaVinci
George95 themonarch yoyoandcigs
George95 themonarch ozzz2002
dg_dave   themonarch yoyoandcigs N-Bomb
44
108     44x2+108=196


Standings

LW TW | | |
----- ------ |LP| |----------------------
TW LW hi-lo picks pts pks pts | | mk mpt | winner loser
----- ----- ----- day 4 ----- | | |----------------------
1 2 1-4 LeoDaVinci 27 163 6 31 33 194 | | 265 | 1 Michigan 2 Houston
2 1 1-3 ozzz2002 29 179 3 10 32 189 | | 200 | 2*Ohio State 3*Texas
3 4 2-4 yoyoandcigs 26 152 3 18 29 170 | | 217 | 1*Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
4 3 1-4 themonarch 24 161 1 3 25 164 | | 250 | 5 Villanova 10*VCU
5 6 5-6 srini701 26 141 4 16 30 157 | | 201 | 1 Michigan 1*Illinois
6 5 5-8 dg_dave 25 145 2 6 27 151 | | 198 | 2*Ohio State 1 Gonzaga
7 8 7-9 N-Bomb 24 129 4 20 28 149 | | 221 | 1 Gonzaga 8 Loyola
8 7 5-8 illiniman14 24 131 4 16 28 147 | | 174 | 1*Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
9 9 7-10 Howie72 23 126 4 16 27 142 | | 184 | 1 Gonzaga 1*Illinois
10 12 9-12 George95 21 106 5 28 26 134 | | 196 | 1 Gonzaga 4*Ok State
11 10 10-12 gtho4 23 111 4 16 27 127 | | 202 | 1 Gonzaga 2 Houston
12 10 10-12 Sypher 22 111 4 16 26 127 | | 195 | 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor
44 196 | | |
perfect pick 40 317 8 53 48 370 | | |
| | |

LP = live picks remaining (15 games)
mk = maximum number correct picks, if all remaining are correct.
mpt= maximum points if all remaining picks are correct.
@ = identical picks winner and runner-up (last 3 games).
* = this team has been eliminated.


Final Four
     
| East West South Midwest
|-------------- ------------- ------------- -------------
dg_dave | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 5*Tennessee
George95 | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 3 Arkansas 4*Ok State
gtho4 | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 2 Houston
Howie72 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 1*Illinois
illiniman14 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 1*Illinois
LeoDaVinci | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 5 Villanova 2 Houston
N-Bomb | 7*Connecticut 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 8 Loyola
ozzz2002 | 3*Texas 3*Kansas 2*Ohio State 2 Houston
srini701 | 1 Michigan 3*Kansas 1 Baylor 1*Illinois
Sypher | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1*Illinois
themonarch | 8*BYU 10*VCU 5 Villanova 11 Syracuse
yoyoandcigs | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1*Illinois


@ identical Final Four picks.
* this team has been eliminated.




Once again LeoDaVinci moves up the ladder .. he replaces ozzz2002 at the top of the pile .. and yoyoandcigs moves into 3rd, pushing themonmarch off the podium. In fact, we had a perfect rendition of musical chairs. None of us retained our spot from Day 3, not even srini701 who, finally, isn't in 6th place.

The elimination yesterday of #1 Illinois and #4 Oklahoma State, and #3Kansas in today's games, knocked the stuffing out of most brackets.

LeoDaVinci, who's never won this, still has the best mpt figures at 265 points (and he has seven live picks for the last seven games) .. gtho4 is the other player with seven live for the last seven, but it won't do him much good .. his mpt is 63 points lower at 202. Everyone else has lost a Final Four pick, or two. Howie72 & ozzz2002 have gone one better .. they've each lost three of their Final Four.

Four of us still have three live picks for the last three games. Two of those four are running last and second last viz. Sypher and gtho4. The 4th player with three live is N-Bomb, in the middle of the field.

Is an mpt of 265 pts enough for LeoDaVinci to win this?

Let's say his last three picks are all wrong. He'll lose 9+1 for the winner plus 6+1 and 6+2 for the two finalists. a total of 25 pts. That takes him down to 255 pts .. themonarch has an mpt of 250 pts, so he needs all his picks to bear fruit. He needs #5 Villanova to win and #11 Syracuse to make the Final Four. If that does happen, LeoDaVinci will lose #2 Houston from his Final Four (they both have #5 Villanova). That 6+2 loss pushes LeoDaVinci from 255 pts down to 247 which, ceteris paribus, leaves him 3 pts below themonarch; and themonarch wins it all!

Now, if #5 Villanova fails to reach the Final Four they'll both lose 4+5 and end up with 241 points and 238 points .. but no-onehas an mpt that's anywhere near that, to threaten either of them. N-Bomb is closest with an mpt of 221 points but he can't make up the missing 20 points, ceteris paribus for the other 8 games. He'll fall 5 pts short: if he does reach that mpt of 221 themonarch will lose #11 Syracuse which is 4+11=15 pts.

That completes 48 of the 63 games in this Madness. For those of us interested in or fascinated by numbers, there are 128 possible permutations for those 15 remaining games. Howie72 and illiniman14 don't figure in any of those 128 permutations, as their mpt pts are below LeoDaVinci's current score. They have the honour of being the first to retire to the grandstand as mere spectators; the first to be eliminated.




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#1285769 - Wed Mar 24 2021 09:15 AM Re: Results & Standings .. March Madness
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I like the way you work out the possibilities smile
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#1285975 - Sun Mar 28 2021 01:37 AM Results & Standings .. March Madness
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March Madness Day 5
half way through 3rd Round

Fri-Sat
Sun-Mon
Thu-Fri
Sat-Sun
Satuday
Monday
Mar 19-20
Mar 21-22
Mar 25-26
Mar 27-28
April 3
April 5
1st Round
2nd Round
3rd Round
4th Round
5th Round
6th Round
32 games
16 games
8 games
4 games
2 games
1 game
1 pt
2 pts
3 pts
4 pts
6 pts
9 pts


Regional Semi-Finals
Regional Finals
National Semi-Finals
National Final


Sweet Sixteen
Elite Eight
Final Four
Seedings: for a correct pick, teams' seeding is added to above ptsFinal is West/East vs. South/Mid-West


Results
picks
seeds
58-65
62-51
72-70
62-46
0
6
3
9
0
6
9
18
  8v12  Loyola v Oregon State
  1v5    Baylor v Villanova
  3v15  Arkansas v Oral Roberts
  2v11  Houston v Syracuse

Sypher gtho4 Howie72 illiniman14 srini701 yoyoandcigs
Sypher gtho4 George95
dg_dave  themonarch  illiniman14
18
33     18x3 + 33 = 87


Standings

LW TW | | |
----- ------ |LP| |----------------------
TW LW hi-lo picks pts pks pts | | mk mpt | winner loser
----- ----- ----- day 5 ----- | | |----------------------
1 1 1-4 LeoDaVinci 33 194 1 5 34 199 | | 248 | 1 Michigan 2 Houston
2 2 1-3 ozzz2002 32 189 1 5 33 194 | | 200 | 2*Ohio State 3*Texas
3 3 2-4 yoyoandcigs 29 170 2 9 31 179 | | 217 | 1*Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
4 5 4-6 srini701 30 157 2 9 32 166 | | 201 | 1 Michigan 1*Illinois
5 4 1-5 themonarch 25 164 0 25 164 | | 168 | 5*Villanova 10*VCU
7 7 7-9 N-Bomb 28 149 1 5 29 154 | | 184 | 1 Gonzaga 8*Loyola
8 6 5-8 dg_dave 27 151 0 27 151 | | 176 | 2*Ohio State 1 Gonzaga
8 9 7-10 Howie72 27 142 2 9 29 151 | | 184 | 1 Gonzaga 1*Illinois
8 8 5-8 illiniman14 28 147 1 4 29 151 | | 174 | 1*Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
10 10 9-12 George95 26 134 2 11 28 145 | | 196 | 1 Gonzaga 4*Ok State
11 11 10-12 gtho4 27 127 3 15 30 142 | | 202 | 1 Gonzaga 2 Houston
11 11 10-11 Sypher 26 127 3 15 29 142 | | 195 | 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor
18 87 | | |
perfect pick 48 370 4 30 52 400 | | |
| | |

LP = live picks remaining (11 games)
mk = maximum number correct picks, if all remaining are correct.
mpt= maximum points if all remaining picks are correct.
@ = identical picks winner and runner-up (last 3 games).
* = this team has been eliminated.


Final Four
     
| East West South Midwest
|-------------- ------------- ------------- -------------
dg_dave | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 5*Tennessee
George95 | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 3 Arkansas 4*Ok State
gtho4 | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 2 Houston
Howie72 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 1*Illinois
illiniman14 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 1*Illinois
LeoDaVinci | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 5*Villanova 2 Houston
N-Bomb | 7*Connecticut 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 8*Loyola
ozzz2002 | 3*Texas 3*Kansas 2*Ohio State 2 Houston
srini701 | 1 Michigan 3*Kansas 1 Baylor 1*Illinois
Sypher | 2 Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1*Illinois
themonarch | 8*BYU 10*VCU 5*Villanova 11*Syracuse
yoyoandcigs | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1*Illinois


@ identical Final Four picks.
* this team has been eliminated.




We're falling like ten pins behind LeoDaVinci. On Day 4 illiniman14 & Howie72 were sent to the grandstands as their mpt was below LeoDaVinci's. Today, Day 5, another *five* join them: our early leader, themonarch, plus N-Bomb, dg_dave, George95 and Sypher .. aka it's an arithmetic certainty that seven of the 12 runners can't win this. Another three should join the gallery tomorrow, leaving us with a LeoDaVinci vs. yoyoandcigs shootout for the gold medal.

Is it all over .. do we have already a winner?

LeoDaVinci should win the shootout, as his mpt of 248 pts is way ahead of the 217 pts for yoyoandcigs .. aka a huge margin of 31 pts. All he needs is for #1 Michigan to win this and he wins the tipping comp. What happens if Michigan fail to make the Final Four (yoyandcigs doesn't have Michigan): he'll lose 9+1 for the winner, 6+1 for the finalist, plus 4+1 for a Final Four (a total of 22 points), which is not enough. What if #2 Houston fail to make the Final Four (yoyandcigs doesn't have Houston): he'll lose another 4+2 = 6 points for a loss of 28 points, which is still not enough! LeoDaVinci needs to also lose points tomorrow, on Day 6.

It looks like we'll have a new winner of this comp .. our 18th Madness winner across 19 years!

Who'll finish 3rd behind these two makes for some interesting reading .. ozzz2002 will finish with 200 points if #2 Houston make the Final Four (he has no other live picks). If #1 Michigan win the comp, srini701 will finish on 201 pts for bronze. On the other hand, if #1 Gonzaga beat #2 Houston in the final then gtho4 will finish on 202 pts for bronze .. at the moment he's a speck on the horizon, running 2nd last. LeoDaVinci and gtho4 still have seven live picks for the last seven games.

That completes 52 of the 63 games in this Madness. Four more games tomorrow and, from there, we have those last seven games.





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#1286033 - Mon Mar 29 2021 01:01 AM Results & Standings .. March Madness
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March Madness Day 6
end of 3rd Round

Fri-Sat
Sun-Mon
Thu-Fri
Sat-Sun
Satuday
Monday
Mar 19-20
Mar 21-22
Mar 25-26
Mar 27-28
April 3
April 5
1st Round
2nd Round
3rd Round
4th Round
5th Round
6th Round
32 games
16 games
8 games
4 games
2 games
1 game
1 pt
2 pts
3 pts
4 pts
6 pts
9 pts


Regional Semi-Finals
Regional Finals
National Semi-Finals
National Final


Sweet Sixteen
Elite Eight
Final Four
Seedings: for a correct pick, teams' seeding is added to above ptsFinal is West/East vs. South/Mid-West


Results
picks
seeds
83-65
76-58
78-88
82-68
11
6
0
0
11
6
0
0
  1v5   Gonzaga v Creighton
  1v4   Michigan v Florida State
  2v11 Alabama v UCLA
  6v7   Southern California v Oregon
ozzz2002
dg_dave gtho4 Howie72 LeoDaVinci srini701 Sypher

17
17       17x3 + 17 = 68


Standings

LW TW | | |
----- ------ |LP| |----------------------
TW LW hi-lo picks pts pks pts | | mk mpt | winner loser
----- ----- ----- day 5 ----- | | |----------------------
1 1 1-4 LeoDaVinci 34 199 2 8 33 207 | 6| 248 | 1 Michigan 2 Houston
2 2 1-3 ozzz2002 33 194 0 33 194 | 1| 200 | 2*Ohio State 3*Texas
3 3 2-4 yoyoandcigs 31 179 1 4 32 183 | 3| 210 | 1*Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
4 4 4-6 srini701 32 166 2 8 34 174 | 4| 201 | 1 Michigan 1*Illinois
5 5 1-5 themonarch 25 164 1 4 26 168 | | 168 | 5*Villanova 10*VCU
6 6 6-9 N-Bomb 29 154 2 8 31 162 | 3| 184 | 1 Gonzaga 8*Loyola
7 7 5-8 dg_dave 27 151 2 8 29 159 | 3| 176 | 2*Ohio State 1 Gonzaga
8 7 7-10 Howie72 29 151 1 4 30 155 | 3| 177 | 1 Gonzaga 1*Illinois
8 7 5-8 illiniman14 29 151 1 4 30 155 | 2| 167 | 1*Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
10 11 10-12 gtho4 30 142 2 8 32 150 | 6| 191 | 1 Gonzaga 2 Houston
10 11 10-11 Sypher 29 142 2 8 31 150 | 5| 184 | 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor
12 10 9-12 George95 28 145 1 4 29 149 | 4| 178 | 1 Gonzaga 4*Ok State
17 68 | | |
perfect pick 52 400 4 31 56 431 | | |
| | |

LP = live picks remaining (7 games)
mk = maximum number correct picks, if all remaining are correct.
mpt= maximum points if all remaining picks are correct.
@ = identical picks winner and runner-up (last 3 games).
* = this team has been eliminated.


Final Four
     
| East West South Midwest
|-------------- ------------- ------------- -------------
dg_dave | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 5*Tennessee
George95 | 2*Alabama 1 Gonzaga 3 Arkansas 4*Ok State
gtho4 | 2*Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 2 Houston
Howie72 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 1*Illinois
illiniman14 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 1*Illinois
LeoDaVinci | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 5*Villanova 2 Houston
N-Bomb | 7*Connecticut 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 8*Loyola
ozzz2002 | 3*Texas 3*Kansas 2*Ohio State 2 Houston
srini701 | 1 Michigan 3*Kansas 1 Baylor 1*Illinois
Sypher | 2*Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1*Illinois
themonarch | 8*BYU 10*VCU 5*Villanova 11*Syracuse
yoyoandcigs | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1*Illinois


@ identical Final Four picks.
* this team has been eliminated.




We're still falling like ten pins behind LeoDaVinci. On Day 4 two players were sent to the grandstands as their mpt was below LeoDaVinci's. Yesterday, Day 5, another five joined them. Today, Day 6, another three joined them (ozzz2002, srini701 and gtho4). We have two left standing for the gold medal: LeoDaVinci plus yoyoandcigs.

If LeoDaVinci picks should collapse and he gets everything wrong from here to the end, he'll finish on his current score of 207 pts .. yoyandcigs would then need all of his remaining live picks to be correct to finish on his mpt of 201 pts, but he can't. Both of them have #1 Gonzaga to reach the Final Four.

They both lose 4+1 pts if Gonzaga fails to make the Final Four, giving yoyancigs a theoretical maximum of 205 pts, ceteris paribus, which is below LeoDaVinci's current score of 207 points. If Gonzaga make the Final Four, LeoDaVinci will have 207+5, which is more than the mpt of yoyoandcigs. In other words, LeoDaVinci cannot be overtaken and will win the gold medal, our 18th winner in 19 years!

yoyandcigs should win silver and either ozzz2002 or srini701 should win bronze.

That completes 56 of the 63 games in this Madness. All of our picks for the seven remaining games can be seen in the above tables (the Final Four, the two finalists, plus the winner).




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#1286110 - Tue Mar 30 2021 02:33 AM Results & Standings .. March Madness
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March Madness Day 7
half way through 4th Round

Fri-Sat
Sun-Mon
Thu-Fri
Sat-Sun
Satuday
Monday
Mar 19-20
Mar 21-22
Mar 25-26
Mar 27-28
April 3
April 5
1st Round
2nd Round
3rd Round
4th Round
5th Round
6th Round
32 games
16 games
8 games
4 games
2 games
1 game
1 pt
2 pts
3 pts
4 pts
6 pts
9 pts


Regional Semi-Finals
Regional Finals
National Semi-Finals
National Final


Sweet Sixteen
Elite Eight
Final Four
Seedings: for a correct pick, teams' seeding is added to above ptsFinal is West/East vs. South/Mid-West


Results
picks
seeds
67-61
81-72
3
4
6
0
  2v12 Houston v Oregon State
  1v3   Baylor v Arkansas
LeoDaVinci ozzz2002 gtho4
yoyoandcigs srini701 gtho4 Sypher
7
10         7x4 + 10 = 38


Standings

LW TW | | |
----- ------ |LP| |----------------------
TW LW hi-lo picks pts pks pts | | mk mpt | winner loser
----- ----- ----- day 7 ----- | | |----------------------
1 1 1-4 LeoDaVinci 36 207 1 6 37 213 | 5| 248 | 1 Michigan 2 Houston
2 2 1-3 ozzz2002 33 194 1 6 34 200 | | 200 | 2*Ohio State 3*Texas
3 3 2-4 yoyoandcigs 32 183 1 5 33 188 | 2| 200 | 1*Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
4 4 4-6 srini701 34 174 1 5 35 179 | 3| 201 | 1 Michigan 1*Illinois
5 5 1-5 themonarch 26 168 0 26 168 | | 168 | 5*Villanova 10*VCU
6 6 6-9 N-Bomb 31 162 0 31 162 | 3| 184 | 1 Gonzaga 8*Loyola
7 10 7-12 gtho4 32 150 2 11 34 161 | 4| 191 | 1 Gonzaga 2 Houston
8 7 5-8 dg_dave 29 159 0 29 159 | 3| 176 | 2*Ohio State 1 Gonzaga
9 10 9-11 Sypher 31 150 1 5 33 155 | 4| 184 | 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor
9 8 7-10 Howie72 30 155 0 30 155 | 3| 177 | 1 Gonzaga 1*Illinois
9 8 5-9 illiniman14 30 155 0 30 155 | 2| 167 | 1*Illinois 1 Gonzaga @
12 12 9-12 George95 29 149 0 29 149 | 3| 171 | 1 Gonzaga 4*Ok State
7 38 | | |
perfect pick 56 431 1 11 58 442 | | |
| | |

LP = live picks remaining (5 games)
mk = maximum number correct picks, if all remaining are correct.
mpt= maximum points if all remaining picks are correct.
@ = identical picks winner and runner-up (last 3 games).
* = this team has been eliminated.


Final Four
     
| East West South Midwest
|-------------- ------------- ------------- -------------
dg_dave | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 5*Tennessee
George95 | 2*Alabama 1 Gonzaga 3*Arkansas 4*Ok State
gtho4 | 2*Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 2 Houston
Howie72 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio State 1*Illinois
illiniman14 @ | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 1*Illinois
LeoDaVinci | 1 Michigan 1 Gonzaga 5*Villanova 2 Houston
N-Bomb | 7*Connecticut 1 Gonzaga 2*Ohio Sate 8*Loyola
ozzz2002 | 3*Texas 3*Kansas 2*Ohio State 2 Houston
srini701 | 1 Michigan 3*Kansas 1 Baylor 1*Illinois
Sypher | 2*Alabama 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1*Illinois
themonarch | 8*BYU 10*VCU 5*Villanova 11*Syracuse
yoyoandcigs | 3*Texas 1 Gonzaga 1 Baylor 1*Illinois


@ identical Final Four picks.
* this team has been eliminated.




yoyoandcigs, the 2nd last man standing, has fallen, which makes it 11 players sent to the grandstands as spectators, as their mpt is below LeoDaVinci's. Yesterday's arithmetic has been confirmed: LeoDaVinci has won the gold medal!

Two records to consider: LeoDaVinci emulates the 2019 winner, dg_dave, who won gold without picking any of the Final Four. LeoDaVinci won gold without relying on a Final Four pick. The biggest winning margin is 20 points, by ralzzz in 2008 and then toocool4u in 2015 (scroll back to the start of this thread for a complete list). There's a good chance this record will tumble.

ozzz2002 retains 2nd place as his last live pick, #2 Houston, won .. and progress to the Final Four. His picks have expired, leaving him on 200 pts.

It's now up to yoyoandcigs & srini701 to chase him down with their last remaining picks .. yoyandcigs can catch him if #1 Gonzaga play in the final, but we'll need a tie-breaker for the silver/bronze medals (ozzz2002 has chosen 69 pts for the final, yoyoancigs has chosen 176 pts) .. srini701 will finish 4th because, if #1 Gonzaga play in the final, they got there by knocking out #1 Michigan, which is srini701's pick for the winner.

If Michigan win this, srini701 will collect the silver medal and ozzz2002 the bronze, which pushes yoyoandcigs off the podium.

That completes 58 of the 63 games in this Madness.




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