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#1284973 - Sat Mar 13 2021 02:25 AM Guest in the ranking
PHILVV Offline
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Registered: Sat Aug 02 2014
Posts: 33
Loc: Belgium
Usually guest don't count in the ranking
For instance top 25%
You are 2th /8 players with a guest, you are finally
2th/7 and not in the top 25%
Today fifty fifty level easy division 1
My score 15/15 62" 1376 pts 2/51
Beaten by a guest guest 3210 level 1
Result of divisions :division 1 no winner
My question why do you count now the guests in
the ranking?
I should first and winner of this game

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#1284983 - Sat Mar 13 2021 06:38 AM Re: Guest in the ranking
MiraJane Offline
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Registered: Tue Apr 30 2013
Posts: 1688
Loc: New York USA
The scores of guest players are always shown in the rankings. Guest 3210 scored higher than you did. That 50-50 game was won by Guest 3210.

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#1284984 - Sat Mar 13 2021 07:13 AM Re: Guest in the ranking
PHILVV Offline
Participant

Registered: Sat Aug 02 2014
Posts: 33
Loc: Belgium
Not at all
Smartest music rabking division 1
1)uncletto 10/10 47" 906 pts
2)guest 7469 9/10 73" 754 pts
3) guest 9163 9/10 73" 754 pts
4)fylgregory 9/10 75" 750 pts
Ranking with guest fylgregory 4th
I go to see team dream weavers
Game results fylgregory music 9/10 2/17
Conclusion smartest game ranking without the guests
Game fifty fifty the guest count
Abnormal!!!

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#1284985 - Sat Mar 13 2021 08:41 AM Re: Guest in the ranking
MiraJane Offline
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Registered: Tue Apr 30 2013
Posts: 1688
Loc: New York USA
You are comparing two different set of rankings. If a Guest has the highest score on an hourly game, the Guest is the winner of that game.

The player with the highest score wins.

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#1284986 - Sat Mar 13 2021 09:04 AM Re: Guest in the ranking
PHILVV Offline
Participant

Registered: Sat Aug 02 2014
Posts: 33
Loc: Belgium
Not at all
Last score easy game
Guest 3210 1010 51,7 948 pts
2)threewoid team retired and loving it 10/10 55"49 945 pts
I go to the game results retired and loving it
Threewood easy game 10/10 945 pts 1/23
Conclusion of the day
I am second behind guest 3210 in game fifty fifty, I stay
second and the winner is guest 3210
Threewood is also second behind guest 3210 and
He is the winner of the easy game.

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#1285003 - Sat Mar 13 2021 02:24 PM Re: Guest in the ranking
WesleyCrusher Offline

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Registered: Thu Sep 04 2008
Posts: 7583
Loc: Germany
Neither Threewood nor you appear on the list of 50/50 winners for 3/13.

https://www.funtrivia.com/fifty/winnerstoday.cfm

This page is the official record of winners and is certain to properly implement all tie-breakers and rules.


Edited by WesleyCrusher (Sat Mar 13 2021 02:27 PM)
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#1285004 - Sat Mar 13 2021 02:36 PM Re: Guest in the ranking
WesleyCrusher Offline

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Registered: Thu Sep 04 2008
Posts: 7583
Loc: Germany
To add to that, I see you as a winner for Piece of Cake, 9am and Threewood for the 8am set of the same game. I can't say whether a guest scored highly in either set because that data is not kept.

Are you saying that 50/50 is not scoring a registered winner when a guest is first place and Easy game is doing that?

We did change Easy/Mixed/Smartest a while ago to cure a mismatch between the reported player count for the "over all divisions" badges. However I would feel that "there is no registered winner if a guest scored higher" would be the more correct interpretation.
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#1285384 - Thu Mar 18 2021 09:09 AM Re: Guest in the ranking
BigTriviaDawg Offline
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Registered: Tue Mar 20 2018
Posts: 79
Loc: Georgia USA
I believe I have gotten credit for a win point before when beaten by a "guest". I don't know about any final percentages.

It would seem fair that the highest scoring registered player should win a tournament. A guest could be anyone including a very seasoned player who either didn't want to play under their profile or maybe they are an expert who somehow has never been on FT. So they may be unfairly above the skill of the other players in the lowest bracket. If the "guest" were to count as the winner, maybe they should go in the highest group instead of the lowest.

I do find it interesting that about half of the players of my new quizzes are "guests" and there are a lot of them the first few days a quiz goes online. Maybe there are a lot of people who play on here that never want to set up a profile? Maybe some of the regular players want to get the quiz answers easy without tarnishing their profile stats? IDK it seems odd to me.

Anyway, I personally just enjoy the mental challenge of the trivia and don't worry too much about being uber-competitive. I don't worry too much about what others do, but would probably feel cheated if I had a great score and a "guest" in division 1 had close to the best score across all divisions, far better than a traditional division 1 score. That has happened to me before but I still got the win point, I believe.

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#1285392 - Thu Mar 18 2021 12:41 PM Re: Guest in the ranking
MiraJane Offline
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Registered: Tue Apr 30 2013
Posts: 1688
Loc: New York USA
Originally Posted By: BigTriviaDawg

I do find it interesting that about half of the players of my new quizzes are "guests" and there are a lot of them the first few days a quiz goes online. Maybe there are a lot of people who play on here that never want to set up a profile? Maybe some of the regular players want to get the quiz answers easy without tarnishing their profile stats? IDK it seems odd to me.



That happens to *all* the new quizzes. A Guest finds the FunTrivia homepage. There are some hourly games they can play. They look around to see what else the website offers. Oh look! There's a list of quizzes! Guest plays the listed quizzes. The listed quizzes happen to be new quizzes. It's not a big mystery.

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#1285652 - Mon Mar 22 2021 11:13 AM Re: Guest in the ranking
Terry Offline
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Registered: Wed Dec 31 1969
Posts: 21449
Loc: USA
The intent is for guests to be ignored when determining who wins. "Guests" are supposed to be for players to get a quick taste of the site, and are not really competing with "real" players.

This wasn't working correctly in 50/50. It has been fixed.

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#1292565 - Sat Jul 10 2021 10:13 AM Re: Guest in the ranking
breelj Offline
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Registered: Wed Mar 17 2021
Posts: 5
Loc: Pgh.,Pa
I just won 1st place on Who's the Smartest level 1 and didn't get the point. I had 119 points before the game ended and it's still at 119. I had 902 points in the game and a guest had 912. It was the 9 o'clock hr & the category was Television.

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#1292566 - Sat Jul 10 2021 10:19 AM Re: Guest in the ranking
breelj Offline
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Registered: Wed Mar 17 2021
Posts: 5
Loc: Pgh.,Pa
Sorry was looking at the wrong number. I had 124 points and it did change to 125. Again sorry. On my new iPad some pages the print is small and hard to tell which numbers belongs to which person

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