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#1286282 - Thu Apr 01 2021 01:07 PM COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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You want one of these this month? Three? Ten?

I'll disappoint you a bit: This month, you'll only be able to get the bronzes - you have to get them one tier at a time.

But if that's what you want, you'll need two things:

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TO WIN ONE OF THE TIER 2 MONTHLIES IN APRIL:

- You already own the badge (i.e. tier 1).
- You will need to finish in the top eight players overall this month.


If you just want to play for this month and win your place in history as one of the first upgrade winners, that's all you need to know for now.

If you want to know exactly how these will work in the long run, read on to the next reply... it's a little bit complicated at first but you'll get the idea quickly.
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#1286288 - Thu Apr 01 2021 01:31 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Still here? Good.

So here's how these will work in the long run:

When looking to upgrade your tier, you are competing against all players who are at or below your current tier. You do ignore all players above your current tier.

This means:

To go from 0 to 1 (win the base badge), you need to be among the top 10 tier 0. This is just as it always was.
To go from 1 to 2, you need to be among the top 8 who are tier 1 or less.
To go from 2 to 3, you need to be among the top 7 who are tier 2 or less.
To go from 3 to 4, you need to be among the top 6 who are tier 3 or less.
To go from 4 to 5, you need to be among the top 5 who are tier 4 or less.
To go from 5 to 6, you need to be among the top 4 who are tier 5 or less.
To go from 6 to 7, you need to be among the top 3 who are tier 6 or less.

Sound difficult? Well, let's try an example. We have this standing at the end of a month some time into the future.

Code:
1. Alison (tier 0)
2. Brandon (tier 3)
3. Callista (tier 3)
4. Devin (tier 2)
5. Erica (tier 3)
6. Francis (tier 4)
7. Gladys (tier 1)
8. Harry (tier 3)
9. Indhira (tier 2)
10. Jacen (tier 7)
11. Katherine (tier 3)
12. Luke (tier 2)
13. Martha (tier 5)


First up, we'll look at Alison. She's beaten everyone, so she goes up a tier, no questions asked. Unfortunately, she doesn't have the badge at all yet, so even though she put in a performance that would have qualified tier 7 for her, she only gets tier 1. But with that skill level, she'll probably do the same thing again next month.

Next, let's look at Luke, We'll ignore everyone tier 3 and above:

Code:
1. Alison (tier 0)
4. Devin (tier 2)
7. Gladys (tier 1)
9. Indhira (tier 2)
12. Luke (tier 2)


5th place is 7th or better, so Luke goes to tier 3. Devin and Indhira get that tier as well, Gladys moves to tier 2.

For Harry, things look less good:

Code:
1. Alison (tier 0)
2. Brandon (tier 3)
3. Callista (tier 3)
4. Devin (tier 2)
5. Erica (tier 3)
7. Gladys (tier 1)
8. Harry (tier 3)


In spite of placing well ahead of Luke, he has to count the tier 3s and that puts him outside the top 6 for his group. Brandon, Callista and Erica will all earn tier 4.

And why all this complexity? Have a look at Martha who is one of the very few already at tier 5:

Code:
1. Alison (tier 0)
2. Brandon (tier 3)
3. Callista (tier 3)
4. Devin (tier 2)
5. Erica (tier 3)
6. Francis (tier 4)
7. Gladys (tier 1)
8. Harry (tier 3)
9. Indhira (tier 2)
11. Katherine (tier 3)
12. Luke (tier 2)
13. Martha (tier 5)


If we had Martha compete only against fellow tier 5s (the way you'd probably first think it should work), she would have a free ride to tier 6 even though she didn't have that great a month. Francis also misses by a hair, he needed 5th and got 6th.

So after the dust has settled, the new tiers will look like this (along with an assortment of tier 1 and 2 promotions further down the ranks):

Code:
1. Alison *(tier 1)*
2. Brandon *(tier 4)*
3. Callista *(tier 4)*
4. Devin *(tier 3)*
5. Erica *(tier 4)*
6. Francis (tier 4)
7. Gladys *(tier 2)*
8. Harry (tier 3)
9. Indhira *(tier 3)*
10. Jacen (tier 7)
11. Katherine (tier 3)
12. Luke *(tier 3)*
13. Martha (tier 5)


Note that the way ranks are determined will not change at all. It'll still be based on top 500 cumulative and top 500 average, aggregated, and regardless how great your average, you must be among the top 500 raw scores to make the list.

But then you don't have to remember all of this: The game will keep track of your standings for you and show you where you rank. You won't need to claim the badge or anything - just play and if you do well enough, it will arrive!


Edited by WesleyCrusher (Thu Apr 01 2021 01:53 PM)
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#1286291 - Thu Apr 01 2021 03:13 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Wowzers. Big upgrade. smile
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#1287934 - Sun Apr 25 2021 11:49 AM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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This is awesome, I don't know how I missed this until now. I'd imagine these 10 games will definitely get a lot more plays with the upgrades. These are going to be quite the battle for the next several years.

I'm sure it's been brought up before but any plans to add other games to these monthly challenges? I'd think the other Dailies (Daily Game, New Question, Pot of Gold, World Quiz, Team Heroes) would be mirrorable to Who Am I and Mind Melt as Expert could mirror Easy/Average/Hard hourly. That'd bring it to the whole fleet of 16 games that the site offers in playable ranked games outside the GC and Knockout.

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#1287951 - Sun Apr 25 2021 02:10 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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I'd be very wary about adding Heroes to it (that game should not have individual performance awards apart from the achievement), but the other five would seem sensible to add.
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#1288273 - Fri Apr 30 2021 12:39 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Advance warning: The upgrades for the two Dailies will NOT be automatic as the required infrastructure is not ready. I will go through the standings tomorrow and Terry will make the awards - this could however be delayed some time (maybe a few days even since it's the weekend). You will NOT lose out if you earned the 2nd tier in Mind Melt or Who am I.

The hourlies are ready and should arrive in your profile automatically.
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#1288308 - Sat May 01 2021 12:47 AM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Have the Monthly upgrades been awarded yet?

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#1288310 - Sat May 01 2021 01:34 AM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
Terry Offline
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Im processing the monthly upgrades now.

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#1288311 - Sat May 01 2021 01:46 AM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Thank you

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#1288332 - Sat May 01 2021 11:30 AM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Originally Posted By: WesleyCrusher
Advance warning: The upgrades for the two Dailies will NOT be automatic as the required infrastructure is not ready. I will go through the standings tomorrow and Terry will make the awards - this could however be delayed some time (maybe a few days even since it's the weekend). You will NOT lose out if you earned the 2nd tier in Mind Melt or Who am I.

The hourlies are ready and should arrive in your profile automatically.



Ah, thanks for the heads up. I noticed the Mind Melt and Who Am I had a current month leaderboard but not prior month like the non-daily games. Congrats to all of those that got upgrades in the first month at the most difficult time to go T1-T2.

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#1288333 - Sat May 01 2021 01:07 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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I was wondering the same won Monthly Who Am I Badge but don't see it with my other badges. It's listed every were else.

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#1288335 - Sat May 01 2021 01:18 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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T2 winners for the Dailies (will be awarded at the next possible opportunity by Terry):

WHO AM I

1. kingruins The Mossbacks 2970
2. ProJunior The Devil's Advocates 2961
3. BudBarryBob Trivia For Adults 2902
4. ledostef Wisdom of the Fool 2775
5. VivTriv Wisdom of the Fool 2770
6. jazh2 Vixens 2757
7. genoveva The Devious Demons 2743
8. blissful_ig Vixens 2741

MIND MELT

1. jpks The Proud Peacocks 2816
2. purelyqing Phoenix Rising 2802
3. LadyNym No Worries! 2801
4. Sedho7 The Calculators 2736
5. Gheelnory classicalmusic/mensan 2642
6. tzompantli Vixens 2640
7. jazh2 Vixens 2635
8. Southendboy The British 2612

And it seems we are seeing half awards again, an error that sometimes happens when a previously basic badge is changed to upgradeable. Terry will look into it.
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#1288336 - Sat May 01 2021 01:33 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Thank You.

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#1288365 - Sun May 02 2021 01:28 AM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Wes,
Building on your scenario, suppose below Martha, in 14th place was Fred, at tier 0. He moves up to tier 1 now, correct?
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#1288453 - Mon May 03 2021 01:47 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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All Monthly Mind Melt and Who am I badges should now be correct, both the new tier 2s and the bugged tier 1 awards.

And yes, Norman (who occasionally masquerades as Fred), who was 14th and T0 of course gets T1. He was second best among the T0s.


Edited by WesleyCrusher (Mon May 03 2021 01:48 PM)
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#1288550 - Wed May 05 2021 12:25 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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If it is possible, could you please display each players current tier?

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#1290412 - Tue Jun 01 2021 09:07 AM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
Terry Offline
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Note that "The Daily Game" will start monthly scoring this month (June), and the first monthly badges will be awarded for that game this month.

Good luck!

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#1290445 - Tue Jun 01 2021 05:58 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Originally Posted By: Terry
Note that "The Daily Game" will start monthly scoring this month (June), and the first monthly badges will be awarded for that game this month.

Good luck!


That's wonderful!!! cool
Has this been added to the Challenges tower? I don't see it.


Edited by gracious1 (Tue Jun 01 2021 06:23 PM)
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#1291858 - Mon Jun 28 2021 04:19 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Daily Game Monthly scoreboard is now up:

https://www.funtrivia.com/daily/thismonth.cfm

All good to go to award the first of these badges when June ends.

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#1291865 - Mon Jun 28 2021 06:47 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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That's great Terry! Thanks!

In that case, are you also considering increasing the number of champion sets? Right now there are two, 11 and 12. The players with the top ten scores for the month...here....https://www.funtrivia.com/daily/cumulative.cfm

are nowhere near the top ten. I suppose the badges will trickle down to us eventually but it might be a good time to increase the sets to allow everyone the same chance.

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#1291922 - Tue Jun 29 2021 02:47 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Originally Posted By: Terry
Daily Game Monthly scoreboard is now up:

https://www.funtrivia.com/daily/thismonth.cfm

All good to go to award the first of these badges when June ends.


Will this be upgradeable, too, like the others?
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#1291924 - Tue Jun 29 2021 04:07 PM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
Terry Offline
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yes

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#1292077 - Thu Jul 01 2021 11:09 AM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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Unlike the other new monthly leaderboards, the Daily still has last month's score totals carrying over.

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#1292105 - Fri Jul 02 2021 02:17 AM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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It looks like Mind Melt hasn't reset either.
https://www.funtrivia.com/mindmelt/thismonth.cfm

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#1292120 - Fri Jul 02 2021 09:51 AM Re: COMING THIS MONTH: Upgrades for the Monthly Badges
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I don't think "Who Am I?" reset either

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