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#1291845 - Mon Jun 28 2021 11:49 AM Some great changes!
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I've noticed a couple of really great changes, and it also occurred to me that we need a thread for this sort of thing since they get lost in the "minor issues" (which are really problems/complaints).

I like the new plusses (+) in the category names on the Quiz home page. Very handy. But even better... I just played a photo quiz, and for the first time ever, I am seeing the pictures in the results page!! No more having to go back and forth between the answers and the questions in order to understand a question, particularly when talking about the details of a picture. Thanks for much for this wonderful change!!! cool laugh
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#1291852 - Mon Jun 28 2021 02:54 PM Re: Some great changes!
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Glad you like them smile

I have been playing FunTrivia as a non-logged in guest and putting myself in the shoes of someone who has never been here before. It's interesting to view the site from a fresh perspective and ask myself what could be better.

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#1291855 - Mon Jun 28 2021 03:54 PM Re: Some great changes!
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Originally Posted By: Terry
I have been playing FunTrivia as a non-logged in guest and putting myself in the shoes of someone who has never been here before. It's interesting to view the site from a fresh perspective and ask myself what could be better.

yep, spot on!


btw have you changed the ordering/sequence of quizzes on each subcat page? (or is it wip)

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#1291857 - Mon Jun 28 2021 04:17 PM Re: Some great changes!
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"btw have you changed the ordering/sequence of quizzes on each subcat page? (or is it wip)"

Yes... quiz popularity is now a new factor in quiz list orderings. This popularity determination is time-adjusted, so the system determines on a "per year" basis which quizzes get the most interest. The more historical interest a quiz has drawn per year, the higher up it goes in the list. This will also help give more visibility to quizzes that have been used in badges, challenges, etc which will generally have more plays.

New quizzes are the exception to this. Quizzes introduced over the past year or two will hang around the top of rankings.



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#1291867 - Mon Jun 28 2021 07:58 PM Re: Some great changes!
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>> This popularity determination is time-adjusted, so the system determines
>> on a "per year" basis which quizzes get the most interest.

ok, got it. You've been busy!

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#1291879 - Tue Jun 29 2021 03:35 AM Re: Some great changes!
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Fantastic improvement to see the images along with the information on a photo quiz - I have often wished I didn't have to flick back to see it, and been aware as an author that my references to the image were pretty much out of context.
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#1291886 - Tue Jun 29 2021 06:56 AM Re: Some great changes!
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Originally Posted By: Terry
"btw have you changed the ordering/sequence of quizzes on each subcat page? (or is it wip)"

Yes... quiz popularity is now a new factor in quiz list orderings. This popularity determination is time-adjusted, so the system determines on a "per year" basis which quizzes get the most interest. The more historical interest a quiz has drawn per year, the higher up it goes in the list. This will also help give more visibility to quizzes that have been used in badges, challenges, etc which will generally have more plays.

New quizzes are the exception to this. Quizzes introduced over the past year or two will hang around the top of rankings.



Thank you! This answers the question I posted in the Minor Issues thread a few days ago :-).

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#1297009 - Tue Oct 05 2021 12:16 PM Re: Some great changes!
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Hi, I'm revisiting this changes thread to ask about another change I've noticed in the photo quizzes. Just had one go online and when I went to the link for it, it took me not to the "index" page of the quiz (the one with the chart and the introductory information, edit quiz link, etc.) but directly to the quiz itself. And that looks like a hybrid between the "playquiz" page (the one with "playquiz" in the path) and the "index" page I've just described. So, is that intentional so that when people click on photo quizzes they immediately are taken to the photos?
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#1297010 - Tue Oct 05 2021 12:27 PM Re: Some great changes!
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Yes - the intermediate page just added a mostly useless click here. Might as well directly see the questions.
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#1297021 - Tue Oct 05 2021 04:29 PM Re: Some great changes!
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OK. Would it be possible to include the chart as well? Or perhaps more importantly, the stats like number rated, rank, and average score?


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#1297022 - Tue Oct 05 2021 04:30 PM Re: Some great changes!
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Match quizzes work that way now too.
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#1297024 - Tue Oct 05 2021 04:44 PM Re: Some great changes!
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Originally Posted By: gracious1
OK. Would it be possible to include the chart as well? Or perhaps more importantly, the stats like number rated, rank, and average score?


It might almost make sense to give this info on a separate page or a dropdown from the directories since it's not really all too pertinent on the quiz page itself. The chart has always already been accessible from the Scores page for each quiz already.

On mobile, the more bric-a-brac that shows up before the player gets the the questions, the busier it is and the more they need to scroll to get to the actual quiz. In an ideal circumstance, we pare back the extras, and put them somewhere less obstructive, otherwise the site's going to come across as super clunky.
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#1297025 - Tue Oct 05 2021 04:48 PM Re: Some great changes!
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Yes, all of the info will be available on that single page. Clicking "scores" will show you the chart right now (I THINK all logged in players see that scores link?)

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#1297026 - Tue Oct 05 2021 04:49 PM Re: Some great changes!
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Pretty much the goal is to eliminate pointless and time-wasting clicks.

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#1297037 - Tue Oct 05 2021 08:33 PM Re: Some great changes!
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To me the useful piece of information is the indication as to whether I have played the quiz before. Depending on how the quiz is accessed this may be knowable, but today I had a daily challenge of play 18 of the following quizzes, so I couldn't tell which ones I had played before (and I wanted to make sure that I played the ones I was going to get points for first.

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#1297038 - Tue Oct 05 2021 09:18 PM Re: Some great changes!
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Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
It might almost make sense to give this info on a separate page or a dropdown from the directories since it's not really all too pertinent on the quiz page itself.
It is very pertinent if you have a Daily Challenge to play a quiz with fewer than 100 ratings, for example.


Originally Posted By: kyleisalive
On mobile, the more bric-a-brac that shows up before the player gets the the questions, the busier it is and the more they need to scroll to get to the actual quiz.
Then perhaps the chart could go at the bottom, but the rank, ratings, no. of ratings, and no. of plays could still go in a single line at the top (sort of like what Wesley is doing now, but number of ratings has been omitted. Would be nice to see that back.)



Edited by gracious1 (Tue Oct 05 2021 09:24 PM)
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#1297039 - Tue Oct 05 2021 09:20 PM Re: Some great changes!
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Originally Posted By: Terry
Clicking "scores" will show you the chart right now (I THINK all logged in players see that scores link?)


Terry, all I see is a list of people who recently played the quiz. That's it. Tried several quizzes.
OK. Tried a few more and did see a chart on some. What is the threshold for generating a chart?


Edited by gracious1 (Tue Oct 05 2021 09:23 PM)
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#1297061 - Wed Oct 06 2021 09:55 AM Re: Some great changes!
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"OK. Tried a few more and did see a chart on some. What is the threshold for generating a chart?"

Hmm some minimal number of plays. I can't remember exactly what, but if there's too few then a chart isn't very meaningful so it isn't generated.

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#1297062 - Wed Oct 06 2021 10:00 AM Re: Some great changes!
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"To me the useful piece of information is the indication as to whether I have played the quiz before. "

This is back.

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#1297069 - Wed Oct 06 2021 01:18 PM Re: Some great changes!
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Originally Posted By: Terry
"To me the useful piece of information is the indication as to whether I have played the quiz before. "

This is back.


Thank you, Terry. I can confirm it's back.

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