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#197636 - Mon Oct 20 2003 04:23 PM Re: David Blaine
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Twice I have edited out your bad language, take this as an official warning, we don't allow that sort of language at Funtrivia. Cut it out.
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#197637 - Mon Oct 20 2003 04:28 PM Re: David Blaine
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Hey Sue,
you think i am trying to get up your nose.
(you are paranoid girl)

It seems you hate me.
(you will learn to love me peggy Sue)


btw

David Blaine is a great guy with a good heart.

you know it


Also
I am of to bed now.
ALL i can say is " i kiss you good night peggy Sue"




yours sincerly
A real diamond.
(sparkle,sparkle)




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#197638 - Mon Oct 20 2003 04:34 PM Re: David Blaine
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A good job his time ended before the weather turned colder. Might have got a chilblain.
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#197639 - Mon Oct 20 2003 04:38 PM Re: David Blaine
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Hey Sue,
This Thread is about david blaine Not hating on me.
(have you Got IT SUE)

Stop nit picking and have a laugh peggy Sue.


btw

I respect you for your posts Peggy Sue but not on this thread.
(if you ban me you will be making a mistake Sue)


Message to peggy Sue

(drop your hate and Face The Truth)

And for gods sake stop nit picking
(you wily old fox)


over and out

A man who believes in The Truth so there fore he can NEVER be politicaly correct.

You know it peggy Sue

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#197640 - Mon Oct 20 2003 04:40 PM Re: David Blaine
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Quote:

Most people who go with out food for 3 days would crack if you waved a cheese burger in front of them




Well, I guess that is exactly my point, isn't it. No one waved a cheeseburger in his face. Assuming he was in the box for 44 days, then he removed all temptations rather than face and conquer them. Not exactly the feat of Jesus.

As for the glory of God, I doubt there is much you can teach me in that regard. Anyone who proclaims a magician to be the equal of God and then uses such irreverant language to make his point, really knows nothing of spiritual truths.
(fact)

You know it
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#197641 - Mon Oct 20 2003 05:41 PM Re: David Blaine
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Look at The lost kids duck The Truth.
(lol)

I ASK YOU ALL AGAIN.

If Blaine has lived on water for 44 days did he do it with The Glory Of God or By greed of money.
(or will you all carry on throwing snides)
Your choice not mine,




Message To hard man Lanni,

If i was there when people were spitting hate at Blaine when he was in that box, i would walk up to them and talk face to face with those animals.
They would fall on thier knees and beg when they talk to a REAL man.

Lanni
If you have give me a warning.
(give me a reason or are you scared little boy)

your sincerly

A man who loves The Truth NOT political correctness.
(this man is not blind you see)






btw

Ban me if you are pc fanatics.

I am calling you out punks

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#197642 - Mon Oct 20 2003 06:05 PM Re: David Blaine
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Now i am of to bed for sure.
Good night peggy Sue,

Lanni
I am man that follows The Truth.
(your threats do not scare a man like me)






yours sincerly
A man who loves freedom of speech.

God bless the people who live and let live.
(They will be gods chosen people)

Thats The Truth

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#197643 - Mon Oct 20 2003 07:18 PM Re: David Blaine
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Admin, please rid of this person. He.she is obviously not following the rules and doesn't care for them. This was supposed to be a thread about a magician, but it's turned out to be about one person, and it isn't Blaine!
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#197644 - Mon Oct 20 2003 07:23 PM Re: David Blaine
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I have to admit being fascinated with Blaine's performance, so I have made some effort to search all round the issue.

Various facts I've found to be relevant to 'trick or madness' (the only two options in my view) are:

He has lost (literally and visibly) 4 stone in weight in 44 days. Even such a great magician couldn't do that. I've been trying for years to lose a quarter of that and without a near starvation diet haven't lost a pound.

The 24 hour cameras are interrupted by adverts. The only plausible trick I've seen on a TV documentary is a switch with a very similar man in his security team using the crane that cleans the box outside. But with zoom lenses pointed at him all the time, the lookalike was thinner and tidier than him, and you do get a very good look at him from underneath. He'd look very different close up on TV. Possible but too many points to cover to get it right and not be caught.

The only way he could extend his life there without cheating is to 'recycle' (ie drink) his urine. It's actually safe and many say good for you (including my 93 year old Grandma and her late sisters who died at 90 and 92 having been brought up taking urine for various illnesses).This has saved other victims of crashes etc. by keeping salt levels up in the body. The pee would test as normal as it would be, but the scientists (nothing to do with the Sun) tested it as salt depleted, consistent with starvation and not recycling it.

Though not personally equipped with Sky digital, (not that I would have spent a lot longer watching him if I did) I've been there once and pieced together every report I could find on him as It looks more to me that he is unbalanced and genuine this time, and shares 120372's belief in his divinity. I have no such belief in him, and psychic? Please! Even he hasn't claimed that (as far as I know).

and ' You know it'

120372, your style is original, I have to admit, but Funtrivia only requires good logic and knowledge, and rarely stretches to the requirement for poetry or literary artwork, though it can be a breeze of fresh air in moderation. But in a continual 'rap rhythm' it begins to lose its charm and originality.

And staying up there for 44 days without food is as hard as coming off crack cocaine??? I'd say a million times harder. Not that I've ever had to come off that or any other drug, but we weren't born with the need for any drugs, but we are designed to eat. And that's the difference. Every smoker was not a smoker. And every drug addict wasn't a drug addict. But what's one of the first things we all do when we're born? Light up a fag? Come on, don't mix up diverse facts when you're trying to prove a point. And honestly, unless you've both starved yourself AND tried to come off drugs, don't throw in statements like that. Even if other points you say are correct those sort of points devalue you're whole arguments.

And I know it. Hallelujah.

I am, however, hoping to read your revelations on God. I have been looking for a long time, and I will be your first new follower if you can show God to me.
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#197645 - Mon Oct 20 2003 07:38 PM Re: David Blaine
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And sorry SG, as you mentioned it, I have to vote for a stay of execution before a final decision. A bit of 'individuality' doesn't do any real harm, I do agree in keeping certain limits, but I did find some of the posts much more entertaining than what David Blaine was doing!
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#197646 - Mon Oct 20 2003 08:01 PM Re: David Blaine
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Satguru. I cannot agree that this person is entertaining, and therefore should be permitted to continue to post. SG is right. These types have been banned for far, far less.The rules here are very simple. This person has not adhered to them and therefore should go. I should think there has been enough tolerance. I wouldn't mind if the posts showed much intelligence. But all they show are ignorance and an attempt to insult.
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#197647 - Mon Oct 20 2003 08:10 PM Re: David Blaine
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Did he find a cure for Cancer?
Fact:NO he sat in a plastic box! You Know it.
Did he feed starving People ?
Fact: NO He sat in a plastic box and lost weight. You Know it.
Did he achieve world peace?
Fact: No he sat in a plastic box well innocent people were dying all over the world trying to make this world a better place. You Know it.
Did he pledge to give his Million dollars to a charity?
Fact. No he did this for his own ends and it sure had nothing to do with God or anything else it was pure Greed on his part.You know it!
And before you accuse me of being a Nazi or a Punk I shall tell you I am a 52 yr old female who is not nor have I ever been a Nazi nor a Punk so please don't bother trying that line out on me it won't work.You fail to amuse or inform me.
PF
PS I agree with Ren and SG.


Edited by PURPLE FAN (Mon Oct 20 2003 08:46 PM)
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#197648 - Tue Oct 21 2003 02:58 AM Re: David Blaine
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Off-topic, but a certain quote comes to mind while reading some of the responses in this thread...

"Imitation is the highest form of flattery."
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#197649 - Tue Oct 21 2003 06:46 AM Re: David Blaine
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Sorry Moonrockie , you lost me there...


Edited by ren33 (Tue Oct 21 2003 07:26 AM)
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#197650 - Tue Oct 21 2003 07:00 AM Re: David Blaine
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This thread is intended for discussion about David Blaine. Please restrict your posts to that subject from here on. There is no need to beat a dead horse here.

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#197651 - Tue Oct 21 2003 02:00 PM Re: David Blaine
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I feel that this stunt is an insult to all of the people who are legitamately starving every day, and have no choice about it. When Blaine left that box he had an ambulance waiting for him, a cushy hotel room to help him get well, the money to afford any expenes from said hospital stay, and at last a warm home to return to.

I have seen a woman and her two children living in a station wagon in the middle of winter, with only the kindness of local food stores for their meals, many times going without anything.

Maybe if Blaine was doing it to make money for people who have no food every day I would feel differently, but he did it for one reason only, to make money for himself. He may have prayed and meditated while he was in that box most people would to pass the time.

I could have done the stunt too if I had the comforting thought of going home to gormet foods, a warm home and a boatload of money when I was out of there to keep me going.
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#197652 - Tue Oct 21 2003 04:14 PM Re: David Blaine
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I wonder why I didn't get a sensible answer - I answered the question - HE DID IT FOR THE MONEY!

Anyway back to normality - how long before he (Blaine that is not the number) gives his first press interview?(I'll give it to next week-ends tabloids when he announces his diary of the 44 days will be published
Day one - Sat in Box
Day Two - Sat in Box - was pelted with eggs and Golf balls

Hey!!! why should I ghost write it for him, he's a magician, and mind reader - the book will have been at the publishers months ago and will be available for Christmas.
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#197653 - Wed Oct 22 2003 04:58 PM Re: David Blaine
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Wow... I go away for a few days on business and look what I miss.

Thank you, Ren, for defending me. Moon boy, indeed. Maybe Moon Woman....

As for Blaine, I hope he and his million are happy, and that we don't have to hear from him for a long time.

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#197654 - Thu Oct 23 2003 08:52 AM Re: David Blaine
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I feel that this stunt is an insult to all of the people who are legitamately starving every day, and have no choice about it. When Blaine left that box he had an ambulance waiting for him, a cushy hotel room to help him get well, the money to afford any expenes from said hospital stay, and at last a warm home to return to.




Very, very, well said, MollyGrue. This Blaine fellow seems to be the most insensitive fellow in recent times to have walked on the face of this planet. Maybe we ought to force him to live the life of a poor farmer desperately tilling his parched lands in drought-affected parts of Asia and Africa. That probably is the fate he deserves. (Actually, my views aren't all that strong, but I want him to learn a lesson some way or the other.) He won't be able to do his little "magic" tricks there, ambulances won't be available all around him...)

His stunt makes complete mockery of the condition of all the geniunely-starved people on Earth.

Like someone earlier in this thread mentioned (I don't remember who, thanks to a certain member who's been making countless nonsensical posts at an alarming rate), he isn't donating any of his 'earned' money to charity...that senseless fellow...

Silver Moonsong, I don't think there'll be any 'moon boy' or 'peggy sue' insults going around any more, I think this member has been banned. (At least that's the conclusion I've drawn from the fact that he hasn't posted in the last 15 minutes! )

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#197655 - Thu Oct 23 2003 10:26 AM Re: David Blaine
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I don't know what Blaine's motives were for doing the box stunt, but if he just wanted X amount of money I figure he could have got it a lot sooner by signing a contract to work in a casino or do another TV special. However, the box stunt has certainly increased his fame much more than those approaches would have. I thought the stunt was quite lame when I heard about it, but he's generated a surprising amount of publicity.

The idea that Blaine somehow insulted hungry people I just don't get, but he's been accused of it fairly often so I suppose there's some logic there somewhere. Yes, I see the contradiction between him doing it voluntarily and getting paid for it and those who starve because they can't afford to eat. Yes, and some people get paid to take off their clothes and some people get arrested for it. Some people buy secondhand clothes because they can't afford new and some do it because they think it's cool. The ones I think should be accused of being insensitive to world hunger were the idiots throwing eggs at Blaine's box.

I've also noticed assertions here and elsewhere that Blaine provided a bad role model to people who have or might be prone to eating disorders. Well, first, I doubt that David Blaine is a major role model to the fashion-conscious teen age girls who are most likely to develop anorexia. Second, there seems to be a double standard here. No one ever seems to take overweight celebrities (or, for that matter, the fat jerks who harassed Blaine) to task for being bad role models even though obesity is a much bigger health problem than anorexia. The obese are a bit of a Western sacred cow, if you'll pardon the expression. Everyone knows it's unhealthy and that in most cases it's a matter of eating too much and not enough exercise, but no one that I know of denounces public figures who are overweight. Celebrities who do drugs, yes; celebrities who smoke, yes; celebrities who are too thin, yes; fat celebrities, no.

USA Today ran a story about his hospital stay. He doesn't seem to be in any major danger. He lost a lot of weight, as one would expect after starving for so long, and urine analysis turned up no sign of nutrients being added to his water. I suppose that it's possible that he switched the urine sample although I doubt it, and I definitely don't think that a double was used. The box was in plain sight and filmed continuously. While voluntarily going without food for so long is a remarkable feat of willpower, it's been done before and there's nothing impossible about it. No magic tricks are required.

Actually, I wish he'd done another TV special instead. "David Blaine Street Magician" really kicked ass. I suppose there may be better magicians out there but I haven't seen them. I find most magic acts stupid, especially the David Copperfield/ Siegfried and Roy/ etc. Vegas type act. I've seen a couple of street magicians but they were terrible, total amateurs, with lame patter and a severely limited range of tricks. I saw some English guy doing a Blaine-esque show recently and while he was pretty good, I kept getting the feeling that the tricks were faked with actors. I've read accusations that Blaine used camera tricks or actors but if he did at least he did a good job of it. The show was the most entertaining bit of magic I've seen. I don't know why these other magicians people say are so much better don't make their own shows, because I'd like to see them.

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#197656 - Sat Oct 25 2003 09:29 AM Re: David Blaine
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Just to play devil's advocate here, once a year our school hosts a voluntary program in which students can try to go one full day without food. It's supposed to teach them just how terrible the gnawing feeling of hunger can be and how difficult it is to cope with school when you're that depleted of energy.
I don't believe it's an insult to those who are truly starving at all...

The feat Blaine *most likely* accomplished is incomprehensible and must have required almost inhuman willpower. The fact that he would go through so much to experience hunger and then not even share his profits with the truly hungry, however, makes me angry.
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#197657 - Sat Oct 25 2003 09:50 AM Re: David Blaine
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The fact that he would go through so much to experience hunger and then not even share his profits with the truly hungry, however, makes me angry.



Very well said, I echo your sentiments.


Edited by harish_256 (Sat Oct 25 2003 10:15 AM)

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#197658 - Sat Oct 25 2003 12:56 PM Re: David Blaine
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I suppose as well as any money aspect, the publicity purpose of the exercise has worked very well. The fact that we are all discussing his action, to the tune of three pages now, is probably a reflection of other discussions going on, probably throughout much of the world.

I had only vaguely heard of David Blaine before his stunt. I sure know who he is now. Maybe that was the point of the exercise as much as monetary gain.
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#197659 - Sat Oct 25 2003 06:18 PM Re: David Blaine
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I don't believe it's an insult to those who are truly starving at all...




But then, Misty, I don't think your school makes millions of dollars and keeps them for its own good does it?
Quote:

I had only vaguely heard of David Blaine before his stunt. I sure know who he is now. Maybe that was the point of the exercise as much as monetary gain



TW, would it make you cross the road to get a free ticket for his show? It wouldn't make me.


Edited by ren33 (Sat Oct 25 2003 06:19 PM)
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#197660 - Sun Oct 26 2003 12:32 PM Re: David Blaine
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But then, Misty, I don't think your school makes millions of dollars and keeps them for its own good does it?




Of course not, and as I stated earlier, I do have a major problem with him keeping such a large profit for himself.
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