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#198655 - Sat Oct 25 2003 05:21 AM Internet Terminology
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Could somebody please explain the meanings of the following terms and the differences between them?

- IP address
- Subnet Mask
- Default Gateway
- DNS Server


All help appreciated!

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#198656 - Sat Oct 25 2003 05:25 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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I can just answer (I hope) one of those words.

I.P Address.

An I.P address is an unique number that is sent you whenever you log in to the internet. I don't think any I.P's are the same. It's like your name on the internet. If you break a law, the police track you down by your name, isn't it ? That's what the IP is used for.

Was that very confusing ?

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#198657 - Sat Oct 25 2003 06:25 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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IP addresses are both static and non-static. When you connect to the net, your ISP designates you a number. When you sign off, someone else may take this number, especially if you're AOL.
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#198658 - Sat Oct 25 2003 09:54 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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Yes, that's what I thought an IP address did. The first two 'segments' (out of the four) are unique for every ISP, I am guessing.

But is this address used for any purpose other than tracking you down (and banning you if you're rude on message-boards!)? What happens when you 'ping' your IP address?

And can somebody explain what those other three terms mean?

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#198659 - Sat Oct 25 2003 09:57 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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Well, I think ping is for making sure that the connection to your host's computer is working all right.

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#198660 - Sat Oct 25 2003 10:11 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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Yes, but what's the difference between 'pinging' your IP address and your gateway or DNS server?

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#198661 - Sat Oct 25 2003 10:20 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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I have only used ping to find out if Funtrivia is down!
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#198662 - Sat Oct 25 2003 10:21 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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Well, why don't I try that out ? Does anyone know FT's I.P ?

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#198663 - Sat Oct 25 2003 10:54 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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I use my IP to connect to my computer when I'm not at home. That way I can use my files everywhere I am. I can connect to friends' computers in the same way.
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#198664 - Sat Oct 25 2003 10:57 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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Just go to the c prompt and type ping www.funtrivia.com. you don't need the IP address, it will give it to you. If it times out the site is down.
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#198665 - Sat Oct 25 2003 11:08 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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That's where the DNS server enters the story! DNS stands for Domain Name System and it keeps track of which IP address goes with which IP address. It "translates" the URL we enter into an IP address. If it weren't for the DNS servers, we'd have to memorize the IP addresses of all our favourite sites!
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#198666 - Sat Oct 25 2003 01:17 PM Re: Internet Terminology
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#198667 - Sat Oct 25 2003 02:43 PM Re: Internet Terminology
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That's alot of questions there Harish. Starting with what I believe to be the case about IP addresses ...unless anyone knows different. One thing could lead to another here.

If you are on dial-up, an IP address is individual to you for the as long as your current Internet session lasts. As SG says, when you log off from the Net the IP number you were using will be given to someone else. You'll get a different one next time you log on. IP addresses like this are said to be Dynamically assigned.

The IP address can remain the same if you have a permanent connection such as broadband provides. This isn't guaranteed by my ISP though. To get a guaranteed permanent IP address, so that I have a fixed Internet address, would cost extra I believe.

The purpose of an IP address is not to keep an eye on you, or to enable anyone to track you down. It is to let the sites you visit send information to your computer. If they didn't know your IP address you might ask a site to show you its pages but it wouldn't be able to do so. The reason being that it wouldn't know where to send the requested information to. Your IP address is like a return address. No IP address = no Internet communication.

Many people are concerned about their IP address being known because they think it leads straight to their computer and subsequently, to any information it has on it, such as street address, hair colour and favourite puddings etc. Not true. The IP address leads only as far as a person's ISP. As far as I'm aware, the only way to find out who a person is beyond that is with a Court Order instructing an ISP to disclose information.

In the case of a dial-up connection, this must be pretty difficult because the IP address is constantly changing. Perhaps it could be tied down to a group of people though, I'm not sure about that. It must be easier in the case of a permanently connected user where IP addresses don't change that much.

IP addresses can be used to breach computer security by nasty people who like to do such things. Once the IP address is known it can be scanned for what are called 'open ports'. Ports are used to connect your computer to various places on the Internet.

The remedy to this is simple. Get a firewall operational NOW. This closes any open ports on your computer. The nasty people then won't even know you're there!

In short;

The IP address enables the two way communication needed to take part in the Internet experience. Sites need to know it in order to show you stuff. That's how the Internet works.

No one can come knocking at your door, or learn your bank account details (or hair colour, favourite puddings etc), from just knowing your IP address. That would need the cooperation of the ISP.

Your IP address being known, in conjuction with not having a firewall installed, makes your computer vulnerable to a security breach.

I said one thing could lead to another
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#198668 - Sun Oct 26 2003 02:45 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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Thank you all for your help, and I think fjohn's link should help me with everything else!

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#198669 - Wed Oct 29 2003 10:53 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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Telly - great info! Thanks, I learned a lot from your post!

But, you mean you don't know my favorite pudding flavor?

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#198670 - Wed Oct 29 2003 11:14 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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Nine letters, begins with C, ends with E!
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#198671 - Wed Oct 29 2003 11:36 AM Re: Internet Terminology
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I can only think of cherryade. Unusual flavouring for a pudding though....
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