#200977 - Sat Feb 21 2009 09:50 AM
Re: "Americacentricity" of quizzes
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Mainstay
Registered: Tue May 13 2008
Posts: 760
Loc: Texas USA
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I have a slight problem with the argument, "There aren't enough questions on country X in the pool, so go write quizzes on that country to get them there." The question pool is still very largely drawn from quizzes written 4 to 8 years ago. I believe Terry only updated 30% of the cache to newer quizzes. And even then, many of the country-specific quizzes might go into very specific categories that mightn't be added to the pool. Even if they were, if we were to start writing even more non-American quizzes now, who's to say that they'd be added before 2-3 years and the next cache update rolls around?
As an American, the bias doesn't stand out as much. A good many American-based questions are just as foreign to me as something British or Australian, and as the subject of State Drinks has shown I don't think I'm the only one that would say that. Almost evens it out, doesn't it?
I did count on the Who Am I? yesterday, 7 Americans, 4 Brits, and 4 Scottish/Canadian/Germans.
Edited by darthrevan89 (Sat Feb 21 2009 09:52 AM)
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#200979 - Sat Feb 21 2009 09:43 PM
Re: "Americacentricity" of quizzes
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Multiloquent
Registered: Tue Feb 20 2007
Posts: 2069
Loc: Sydney, Australia
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Or Indian!  I love to get questions on French, German, Spanish or other non US/UK nationalities. That's the only time I can pick out the right answer by just scanning the options. Otherwise even if I do get it correct, I'm too slow to win. 
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#200980 - Sat Feb 21 2009 10:19 PM
Re: "Americacentricity" of quizzes
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Registered: Mon Apr 22 2002
Posts: 5007
Loc: Western Australia
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Quote:
In France, I believe they combine history and geography into one phrase:
L'histoire-géo
In West Australia, we go to high school for five years - years 8 to 12. For the first three years of high school (years 8, 9 and 10), history and geography are taught together as one subject called Social Studies and it is a compulsory subject. They don't split into separate subjects until years 11 and 12, when they are available as options.
Edited by MotherGoose (Sat Feb 21 2009 10:21 PM)
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#200983 - Mon Sep 14 2009 02:34 PM
Re: "Americacentricity" of quizzes
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Explorer
Registered: Wed Jun 06 2007
Posts: 61
Loc: Cardiff Wales UK
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In the hardcore part of the Global Challenge I must have faced 600 questions on sport. Not a SINGLE one has been on football - or 'soccer' as I suppose I have to call it. Several hundred each though on US football and baseball. More than a dozen on - is it really professional? - paintballing(?), and about as many on skateboarding. Since, 'globally' speaking, American football and baseball barely amount to a gnat's [censored] in comparison to soccer, I question the fairness and integrity of the Global Challenge. I understand that assorted lamewits will automatically tell me that I should set to writing soccer questions if I want to see them appear in the tournament, safe in the convenient knowledge that weight of numbers will always tell in the distribution of questions (by the way - I'm not particularly a soccer fan; it just strikes me as odd. I'm more of a cricket and rugby man, subjects which I confidently expect never to appear in the GC), but surely there are already enough soccer questions in the archives for us to see the occasional ONE? And what about tennis, track and field, cycling, boxing, swimming, golf? They barely feature. US players are handed a massive advantage in this and in one or two other categories which I can only assume they are loathe to surrender. The 'Global Challenge' is a bit of a misnomer, since in some instances it is anything but.
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#200985 - Mon Sep 14 2009 05:25 PM
Re: "Americacentricity" of quizzes
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Prolific
Registered: Mon Oct 30 2006
Posts: 1529
Loc: Swansea Wales UK
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Well I was doing some calculations on the sports quizzes here at FT when this issue last came up, so my figures will now be out of a date by a few tenths of a percent (which is just unacceptable  ) so I have done them again: American Football - 1086 (1091 but 5 taken out as they weren't US specific) Basketball - 595 (600 but 5 taken out as they weren't US specific) US College Sports - 758 Baseball - 2551 (the Japanese specific quizzes have been taken out) Total US specific sports quizzes = 4990 Total sports quizzes on FT = 10712 Percentage of US specific sports quizzes = 4990/10712 = 46.58% Percentage of total visitors to FT that are from the US = 53.40% 46.58% < 53.40% - so in fact the US specific quizzes are underrepresented! As for not many soccer quizzes making it to the hourlies - your best bet would be to submit to the question quest - I am sure Nightmare will take as many soccer questions as you are willing to give!  I too am a 'lamewit'.
Edited by jonnowales (Mon Sep 14 2009 05:26 PM)
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#200990 - Tue Sep 15 2009 05:06 PM
Re: "Americacentricity" of quizzes
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Forum Champion
Registered: Mon Apr 22 2002
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Loc: Western Australia
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It never ceases to amaze me that the content of this site is solely determined by the participants, who subsequently complain about the content.  If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
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#200991 - Tue Sep 15 2009 05:40 PM
Re: "Americacentricity" of quizzes
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Prolific
Registered: Mon Oct 30 2006
Posts: 1529
Loc: Swansea Wales UK
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I didn't say 47% of the sports questions in the GC are US specific. I said roughly 47% of the sports quizzes on the site are on US sports. The pool of quizzes (and now more recently, the single questions) are from where the questions for the Global Challenge are drawn. In the sports category in GC you should expect to see that at least 53.40% of the pool is on US specific sports. GC is in divisions based on difficulty also - if a minority of people on the site follow say cricket, then the cricket questions are going to be considered very difficult and will be thumped up to division 9 and 10, the same goes for darts, snooker and lawn bowls. As most people here are American, the chances are that more people will get the questions from American sports quizzes correct and will fill up the earlier divisions. I spend most of my working hours with a calculator close by - I know how to use one! 
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#200994 - Tue Sep 15 2009 10:10 PM
Re: "Americacentricity" of quizzes
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Enthusiast
Registered: Tue May 16 2006
Posts: 316
Loc: Napa Valley California USA
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I feel your pain about the Sports questions! Others have said this, but I'll chime in too - I'm American and I also have lots of trouble with those questions. And... Quote:
The 'Global Challenge' is a bit of a misnomer, since in some instances it is anything but.
"Global" in this sense doesn't refer to the "world", but is used referring to FunTrivia in toto, with the other meaning of global: adjective 2. comprehensive, general, total, thorough, exhaustive, encyclopedic. So, it means an overall challenge from all of the quizzes that are found here on FunTrivia.
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#200995 - Wed Sep 16 2009 12:44 AM
Re: "Americacentricity" of quizzes
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Forum Adept
Registered: Thu Oct 30 2008
Posts: 137
Loc: Bedfordshire England UK
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Jonno - if the total Sports section was made up of country specific sports I would agree with your contention that the US is under-represented. However, many of the Sports quizzes are not country-specific as the sports, eg the Olympics, swimming and tennis, are played, known and reported on worldwide. If you exclude those and all the other non-country specific quizzes from the total number of Sports the picture would look very different I am sure. And where does NASCAR fit?
However, there are other factors which influence this issue. For example, US sports such as baseball, football and hockey have a long tradition of statistic keeping - baseball even has it's own society with 7000 members devoted to statistics - and sports statistics are a hobby in themselves. The type of questions which are in the quizzes, such as Jersey numbers and colleges attended are irrelevant in many non US sports so there isn't the potential to redress the balance by similar quizzes. Also, and this is a qualitative observation, Sports questions do not seem to repeat as often - maybe there are proportionately more questions because there are more quizzes - does anyone know whether there are equal numbers of questions per category in each round? Because this is an issue for me, I count the number of questions in each round which are in categories which begin US, MLB or NHL - 10 is not unusual.
With regard to Hardcore, like Richie I'm nipping at the heels of those in line for the badge but don't score in Sports - in the first week alone, when Sports appeared 9 times out of 14, I missed out on scoring on 4 of the games. The last time I checked, in Division 6, Sports (by far my worst category) had appeared 24 times compared to 13 for my best.
My problem is that I can't see any way of actually improving my scores on US Sports questions. I'm fine on rules and terminology for most sports but I can see no way of getting to grips with jersey numbers, colleges, batting average, seasonal rankings. Anyone got any hints?
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