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#20472 - Thu May 09 2002 01:08 AM Hobnob
gillyharold Offline
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hobnob(verb)"to have or not have"; to mingle or associate casually

These two rhyming syllables first came together in Shakespeare’s comedy Twelfth Night. Sir Toby Belch warns Viola, disguised as a male, that the foolish Sir Andrew Aguecheek seeks a duel. "Hob, nob, is his word," Sir Toby tells her; "give’t or take’t" (III.iv.240).
Shakespeare uses these terms together only once. They appear to be derived from the older hab nab, a phrase with the sense of "have or not have, however it may turn out." After Shakespeare’s initial use, hob and nob eventually became established in the expression "to drink hob or nob" or simply "to drink hobnob," which was used to mean "to drink alternately to each other." From such associations it’s easy to see how hobnob (in various forms) came to acquire strong connotations of close friendship or intimate fellowship, as when William Makepeace Thackeray used an adjectival variation in 1859: "I might be hob-and-nob with you now in your dungeon."

By 1763, hobnob was established in use as a verb meaning "to drink together," and by the 1820s, it gained the modern sense of "to be familiar with." Nowadays the term is most often seen in a phrase like "hobnobbing with high society," denoting a form of activity which, despite the Shakespearian origins of hobnob, has nothing to do with fighting duels. [Eek!]

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#20473 - Thu May 09 2002 02:22 AM Re: Hobnob
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Hobnob a biscuit by Mcvites mmmmmmmm nice [Wink]

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#20474 - Thu May 09 2002 03:36 AM Re: Hobnob
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I couldn't have said it better except that i was thinking more about milk chocolate ones - extra hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm !!! I'm mad for 'em ! [Big Grin] [Eek!] [Razz]
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#20475 - Thu May 09 2002 05:54 AM Re: Hobnob
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Oh Yes! Oh Yes! Oh Yes.........
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I had forgotten about them!
Dunked..mmmmmmmmm.
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Don't forget the hobnobs next visit to the supermarket [Cool]

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#20476 - Thu May 09 2002 06:25 AM Re: Hobnob
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Sorry Gillyharold

You are trying to raise our awareness about English and we Brits are sabotaging your post, but in the UK, when you say 'Hob Nob' we think georgously yummy and scrumpilicious biscuits - mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm !!! [Wink] [Wink] [Wink]
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#20477 - Thu May 09 2002 07:02 AM Re: Hobnob
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You are really going to confuse the issue by talking about biscuits, they call them cookies! I am not sure if it is the same all over the States but certainly in Georgia if you talk about biscuits they think you mean scones from what I saw on offer.
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#20478 - Fri May 10 2002 06:44 AM Re: Hobnob
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Biscuites v Cookies
Only one thing to say to our friend over the water.

Two Countries seperated by a common language!
Said by Sir winston Churchill on the relationship between Great Britain and the USA.
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#20479 - Sun May 19 2002 04:19 PM Re: Hobnob
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"Hob" was also another name for the devil, and is the basis for our "hobgoblin". tjoeb};>
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#20480 - Wed May 22 2002 05:52 AM Re: Hobnob
tecwyn Offline
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Here in the UK, hob-nob would mean you were mixing with the upper class(hob-nobbing) because the word nob came from the word NOBILITY (class of people holding special rank)
Where hob came from I dont know because its a top area of a cooking stove.
In Collins dictionary Hob-nob is- "Drink together" or "Be familiar (with)".

tecwyn

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