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#211057 - Fri Apr 16 2004 06:15 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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Good question. This is what I think I know. They remain on the island until the final ballot is cast (whether they can talk to each other while sequestered from the others I'm not sure). At least after they get to the point of being on the jury; I think the earlier ones voted off get to go home straight away. But by the time Lex and after leave the island the decision has been made so what they confer about outside of the Survivor game is moot by then. I'm not sure if they conspire to gang murder Rob after that point it is within the rules or not . I'm curious now. Maybe next week I'll try to phone into The Morning Show when the new one gets gone and ask that question (but I'll likely never get through...). Unless it's Rob on there, of course. Personally, I don't want to ask him anything since I wouldn't believe a word of it, anyway.
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#211058 - Fri Apr 16 2004 06:27 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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People Magazine that was on the stands last week friday indicated the Rob-Amber couple continued after the show ended. She lives in PA and he has flown a few times to see her.
The only question I would ask is why he is such a punk. I'll have to check CBS.com, but sometimes they do a web chat with the contestant booted off. It would be interesting to ask last night's booted one that question, of whether they would conspire with Lex and other jurors to not vote for Rob should he be in the final 2.
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#211059 - Fri Apr 16 2004 07:58 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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I agree with you both, gatsby and sebastiancat. Watching Rob while he explained his move after the challenge, I couldn't help but think what a poor actor he is.

I wish we could hear the explanations given during the voting process, especially last night. Tom and Rupert are way too trusting of Rob. I'd love to see Amber go just to see how Rob would play out the rest of the game.
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#211060 - Fri Apr 16 2004 08:23 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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Rupert is playing an entirely different game than when he was on Pearl Islands. There he was the alpha male, and it almost seems as if he is allowing Rob enough rope to proverbially hang himself. Does anyone think Rupert is holding himself back a bit so as not to be a target, or is this more like the real him?
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#211061 - Fri Apr 16 2004 08:43 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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Rupert has said, on a few occasions, that people look at him and think big, burly bear, and that they are wrong. After Pearl Island, he admitted he'd been too trusting and wouldn't be so gullible this time around. Hope so. This is why I wish we could hear the reasoning behind the voting. When they do allow us to hear, it does give some insight as to what the player has in mind.

Although he isn't one of my favourites, it would be interesting to hear more of what Tom has to say. At Tribal Counsel, it almost sounded as if he'd said he's not going to win(?). Being from the north, I sometimes have trouble understanding Tom. Guess I should watch "King of the Hill" more.
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#211062 - Sun Apr 18 2004 10:54 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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Yes, they get to chat. All of the people on the jury stay together.

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#211063 - Tue Apr 20 2004 04:04 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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It just finished tonight and really it was a great move from Ro about the letters - if it comes that he's in the final two it may just swing a vote or two. I don't like Rob as much as the rest of you but it will be sad to see him go, he makes the show I reckon.

See Lex after having attcked with a razor?

*shudder*

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#211064 - Tue Apr 20 2004 04:05 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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No, really ...

*shudder*

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#211065 - Fri Apr 23 2004 03:37 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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Yikes . Rob didn't win immunity and he STILL made it through! The one sent packing last night was mostly a mystery to me. The way they edit it Boston's personality is center stage and some of the others are just background to that. Which I think, at least for me, was the case with this one. I have absolutely no idea who is going to win this thing at this point. I don't even have a favorite now!
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#211066 - Fri Apr 23 2004 06:31 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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My favorite is still Rupert, and as they begin to talk about him being a physical threat I get nervous. I still can't believe Rob didn't go. Who would actually vote for him? If he got the final two at least he does get to win some money, but no million. Being screwed out of their chance for it, the jury can't vote for him. Goodness.
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#211067 - Fri Apr 23 2004 07:56 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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A big YAY for the person who won the immunity challenge. Although they aren't one of my favourites, they showed a lot of grit. I can't believe keeping Rob Even my ten year old thinks the remaining survivors are handing him the win. I don't get why the remaining players are accepting the possibility of coming in third or fourth.
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#211068 - Fri Apr 30 2004 07:23 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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Again Rob handed the proverbial golden platter. Tom chooses him to share in reward challenge, why I ask? Does he honestly think that "one good turn deserves another" will enable Rob to thus court him along for the final two? Although at this point it might almost be smart to keep him in the game as the final two. Who would honestly vote for him?

I'm crossing my fingers for Rupert, praying that he won't get voted out next week as the ads all seem to promote.
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#211069 - Sat May 01 2004 12:09 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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Big Tom, while a likeable fellow, pretty much cut off his nose to spite his face! Maybe. If he CAN ride with Rob to the final two, Tom'll win this. But I don't think that'll happen somehow. The minute Amber gets voted off (which my prediction is should be soon) Boston Rob will go after Tom in a heartbeat. If Rob's seemingly super powers over these people persist, and I see no reason to think now that it won't happen that way, he'll do his darndest to take Jenna with him to the final two. That'd be the smart thing to do, I suppose. Then the jury can pick the one they dislike the least out of the two they hate the most . I just don't see Rob winning. The one option he's lost is manipulating the jury and, while they might see him as a "good" player their feelings of in-your-face betrayal should override that. SHOULD being the key word.
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#211070 - Sat May 01 2004 04:24 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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Yes, they get to chat. All of the people on the jury stay together.




I think Barbara secretly works for CBS .

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#211071 - Sat May 01 2004 07:20 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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I think Barbara secretly works for CBS .






No, it's that Barbara (not so secretly) has no life, and has time to read all of this stuff!


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#211072 - Tue May 04 2004 03:47 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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A few comments on the last episode.

1. I never ever ever want to see Rupert kissing anyone again as long as I live.

2. Jenna's brother is on the dishy side of life. *drool*

3. There is not one person on this entire planet that I would eat a tarantula for.

4. Lex? still shuddering.


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#211073 - Tue May 04 2004 10:58 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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Does anyone here think that this season of Survivor is BORING? I know, we have a thread dedicated to this thing, but I can't help but being bored with the season. Now don't get me wrong, when the idea first came out, I was really excited. I thought it would be great to see some of the previous Survivors interact with each other, especially ones that hadn't been on the same show together. However, this season has proven to be a real dud, at least for me. Here are a few reasons why:

1. I've found that I honestly don't care who wins the million. They're all famous anyway, so what does a little extra money matter?

2. I don't care when someone is voted off. Again, they already have fame and recognition, it's not going to hurt them. They've done the whole thing before, for goodness sake!

3. Rob and Amber. Need I say more?

4. Why does everybody have to coddle Rob? It's like no one wants to make him angry, and they all must kiss his butt. I have yet to figure out why.

5. This is supposed to be All-Stars, yet stategy hasn't been very good so far. This sort of ties in with number 4 above. Everybody knows Rob is a snake, so why aren't they acting on it?

6. When this show was first announced, I was confused as to why Shii Ann and Amber were picked. And I'm still confused! It cracked me up when Amber said something to the effect that "This is All-Stars. It's hard-core, and you have to be good". Look who's talking. In Australia, she hung over Jerri all the time, and this season she hangs on Rob. I'm convinced that girl has no mind of her own.

I hope I'm not offending anyone here. I really thought that this season would be great, but so far it has turned out to be really disappointing. I'll probalby watch the last 2 episodes just to see who wins, but it won't really mean anything to me. Again, I hope I haven't offended anyone! I just really needed to get that off my chest.
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#211074 - Tue May 04 2004 11:55 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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I actually agree with you AlienGoddess. It IS a dud season---it's gotten down now to the worst of the so-called best (with the exception of Rupert, but his days are numbered, I think). It should change its name from "Survivor" to "Rob TV". I don't care who wins either, as long as it isn't him.
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#211075 - Tue May 04 2004 12:58 PM Re: Survivor All Star
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I have to confess I actually didn't even watch Thursday. I had something else better to do that night, and thought I could just read the blow-by-blow on CBS.com which is what I did. We all know Rob will be bowed down to. We know Jenna is a big mouth, blah blah blah. This game could have been so much more interesting had Lex not kept Amber around, among other things.

I am with the rest of you, I just hope that Rob doesn't win. My vote is for Rupert, but at this point hold no hope for that. Last season was so much better, bring in Evil Jon and his pseudo dying grandmother!

I heard that they pretty much invited everyone back and most didn't want to. Amber came back for hottie factor (but after 39 days on a grungy island hot doesn't play a part). But there are others I wondered about. Having not seen the first 3 seasons I didn't know who Big Tom or Alicia were. Knew that Tina & Colby were finalists but had no idea who and what they were like. I hope that next season is a step up.

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#211076 - Wed May 05 2004 05:26 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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So here's a question for the Survivor Fans, since we are in agreement that this has been a mediocre season, who would you have picked to make up All-Stars?

I went thru the Seasons I saw and listed who I thought would make things interesting:

Survivor Marquesas: Kathy, Paschal, Hunter, John, and Gina

Survivor Thailand: Brian, Helen, Jake, Crazy Robb

Survivor Amazon: Dave, Deena, Rob C, Matthew

Survivor Pearl Islands: Jon, Rupert, Savage, Ryan O.

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#211077 - Wed May 05 2004 10:56 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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Hmm, I can't think of anyone right off the bat, but I thought of an interesting idea! They should do a Survivor where people that were voted off early in the game would come back. Some of these people may have been interesting, but were voted off due to being unpopular, illness, etc. We never got to know these people, and it might be interesting to do something like that.

Of course, how embarrassing would it be to be voted out early out of this one too?
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#211078 - Wed May 05 2004 01:07 PM Re: Survivor All Star
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I agree with you all. AlienGoddess your idea sounds great, you should send it off to the Producer. When a 10 year old (mine) can't believe the errors in strategy, you have got to agree those people are losers.

I agree with Shii-ann, Amber is going to win. Rob will take her to the end and no one will vote for him from the jury. In one episode, he even said that it didn't matter which of them won. It would be funny if Amber won then dumped Rob on national TV. That I would tune in for
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#211079 - Thu May 06 2004 10:53 AM Re: Survivor All Star
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I agree with you all. AlienGoddess your idea sounds great, you should send it off to the Producer.




I have actually been planning to send a little note to CBS via their little online feedback form telling Mark Burnett that this season stinks. It'll probably say basically the same thing I said a few posts earlier, but worded differently. I have done this once before with "Pearl Islands" concerning a scene in an episode that I thought was inappropriate (the one where a snake was shown eating a live iguana whole). They didn't get back to me though. Gee, what a surprise.
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#211080 - Thu May 06 2004 12:52 PM Re: Survivor All Star
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Thank you AG! I know exactly which scene you mean and never thought to write the show. My daughter loves reptiles and even though she understands that they have to eat, that scene upset her. You should invite Burnett to visit our posts, a little eye opener for him.
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#211081 - Thu May 06 2004 01:36 PM Re: Survivor All Star
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Wow Jonimacaroni, I am so glad that there's someone else out there who was offended by that. And I'm sorry that your daughter had to see that. That was the main reason I wrote to the show. That was so inappropriate for kids to be watching, it was incredibly gruesome and violent. Now, I understand that snakes eat their food live and whole, but it was not appropriate to show that on network TV. If they did, there should have been a warning about gruesome animal content, like they did for Survivor Africa when they had to shoot an arrow in the cow to get its blood. I'm all for being realistic, but this too much. I would love to invite Burnett to see our posts, but I don't think he would. Remember, no one responded to my (valid) complaint.
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