#218138 - Sun Mar 21 2004 03:21 PM
Sept 11 and Madrid Bombings - Related?
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Going around the internet right now: Quote:
Odd Coincidence?
There are exactly 911 days between the New York attacks on September 11, 2001 and the Madrid bombings on March 11, 2004, precisely 2.5 years later.
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If you count 9/11/2001 as "Day 0" and begin counting days after that date, the Madrid bombings occurred 911 days after the 9/11 attacks.
Days after 9/11/2001 ---------------------------- 9/11/2001 = Day 0 9/11/2002 = 364 Days 9/11/2003 = 729 Days September 30th = 748 Days October 31st = 779 Days November 30th = 809 Days December 31st = 840 Days January 31st, 2004 = 871 Days February 29th, 2004 = 900 Days March 11th, 2004 = 911 Days
Madrid Bombings = 3/11/2004 = 911 Days after 9/11
More symbolism which clearly shows the Madrid bombings were staged by the New World Order.
See rest of the story here
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#218139 - Tue Mar 23 2004 06:48 AM
Re: Sept 11 and Madrid Bombings - Related?
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The trouble with this is we know that a year is 365 days long and therefore 9/11/2002 occured 365 days after 9/11/2001 not 364. Therefore the Madrid bombing occured 912 days after 9/11/2001.
I just read what Snopes had to say about this. The Madrid bombing occured 912 after 9/11, there were 911 days between the two days, and if you count 9/11/2001 was the first day than the Madrid bombing was the 913th day.
This means you could manipulate the days to make it look as if the date of the Madrid bombing was more significant than it actually was.
Edited by Kuu (Tue Mar 23 2004 07:00 AM)
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#218140 - Tue Mar 23 2004 03:11 PM
Re: Sept 11 and Madrid Bombings - Related?
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Doesn't most of the world use the opposite notation for dates though?
I mean 11 September rather than September eleventh?
What I mean is that though I think that someone might have performed an act of terrorism in the States to have it referred to as 911 forever more for its emergency services significance, for the rest of the world, we're the only ones who write the Month/date vs day/Month, aren't we?
Therefore though the eleventh as the day of the week might have some signficance in a plot, the numerical thing doesn't seem plausible in the least because of this aspect.
The US is the only country that does it in that order as far as I know.
Edited by Bruyere (Tue Mar 23 2004 04:12 PM)
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#218141 - Wed Mar 24 2004 02:41 PM
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Does this mean we have to be extra careful on 11th April and so on?  EJ
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#218142 - Wed Mar 24 2004 03:04 PM
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Let's hope not, but 9 11 as a date in Europe and elsewhere is November the ninth, not September eleventh. I wonder if the numbers hadn't spelled out our national emergency number in the States, if we would have retained that number, or if we would have called it the WTC disaster.
I'm just trying to point out that these mathematical calculations for dates etc, well, they aren't using the notation that most people use elsewhere than in the States.
Therefore March 11 would be 11/03 rather than 03/11 for the majority of the people outside of the States.
Edited by Bruyere (Wed Mar 24 2004 03:05 PM)
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#218143 - Wed Mar 24 2004 06:20 PM
Re: Sept 11 and Madrid Bombings - Related?
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Well, I think Spain does see a connection between 9/11 and the Madrid bombings, but not because of the dates, but rather because Al Qaeda appears involved in both incidents. Suspicion in the Madrid bombings has focused on a Morocco-based terrorist cell believed linked to Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network and on Al Qaeda itself. The timing of the Madrid bombings was more likely linked to the Spanish elections, and an attempt to influence their outcome, because the incumbents had supported the American led invasion of Iraq. Hitting America's allies is an indirect way of attacking the U.S.
So, yes, the events are somewhat linked, but the connecting link is likely the factor that Islamic extremist and anti-American groups, either Al Qaeda or linked to Al Qaeda, were the perpetrators of both the Madrid bombings and the attack of 9/11. Isn't that enough of a direct connection?
I really doubt that Al Qaeda sits and plays games with the calender.
Bruyere, they really couldn't refer to 9/11 simply as the WTC disaster, because what happened that day went far beyond the events in NYC--the Pentagon was attacked, and another hijacked plane crashed in Pennsylvania. And I don't think we continue to use 9/11 (nine eleven) in referring to that day because 911 (nine one one) is a national emergency phone number. I think that's just a coincidence of digits. We continued to refer to Pearl Harbor as "December 7th" ("A day that will live in infamy") for the same reason--that was simply the date of that attack. September 11th, or 9/11, is used the same way--that was simply the date. Actually, no name you could give it would capture the horror of that day, so we are probably better off sticking with the date.
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#218144 - Thu Mar 25 2004 11:58 AM
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I don't doubt there's a connection just wanted to point out the most obvious thing to people outside the states, that calling it nine one one is the American way of giving numerical dates therefore any elaborate theories fall by the wayside. If you fill out paperwork in any other place in the world that I know of, you won't do it that way.
In other languages it's referred to as the onze septembre, undici septembre, etc. It seems pretty obvious that the national phone number being the same thing made the name catch on. We have so few national numbers in the USA, we pay for that in most states on our phone bills, there are television programs on it showing the rescue efforts, it's in the mind of everyone from two years old upward for an urgent situation.
No, I'm not even saying anyone planned it that way, just that it's more firmly anchored in the minds of Americans for our system of doing numerical dates as well as our national emergency system that everyone is encouraged to call in the case of an emergency from toddlers to seniors. The rest of the world calls it that because we do, not because of the date.
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#218145 - Sun May 02 2004 10:39 AM
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The most clear link between these two terrorist acts (apart from the obvious; they're both acts committed by either Al Qaeda or a cell related to some extent to Al Qaeda) is that they were committed on an 11th, and the interval between the two is exactly 2.5 years. I've been reading about your discussion on dates, and I think you're right, it was just a coincidence that it corresponds with the emergency number 911. In Spain, for example, the two dates are now referred to as 11-S and 11-M, so there's no way you can find a connexion here. Quote:
The timing of the Madrid bombings was more likely linked to the Spanish elections, and an attempt to influence their outcome, because the incumbents had supported the American led invasion of Iraq. Hitting America's allies is an indirect way of attacking the U.S.
I don't think this is completely accurate, and though it had a consequence on the elections (with a considerable share of the voting population changing their votes as a means of "punishing" the leading conservative party for entering a war that 90% of Spanish never wanted) there's no way solid proof to think that's what the terrorists had in mind; in my opinion it's just chance we should blame for this ocurring 3 days from the day the elections were due.
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