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#218604 - Wed Mar 24 2004 05:14 AM FA Premier League
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Some statistics, prior to this weekend's game at Highbury, Arsenal v Manchester United:

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Longest unbeaten start to a season:

Arsenal play their 30th game of the season this weekend, and a win or draw
against Man U will break the record for the longest undefeated start to a
season in the top flight. This is the current league table:

Arsenal 29 22 7 0 57-19 73
Chelsea 29 20 4 5 52-22 64
Man U 29 19 4 6 55-29 61
Liverpool 29 12 9 8 42-31 45

At the moment they have equalled the record set by Leeds United in the 1970s,
and Liverpool in the 1980s. For those of us who are curious, these were the
league tables back then:

1973-74 : 16-Feb-74
Leeds United lost to Stoke City, who were mid-table, 2-3 away on 23-Feb-74
(I remember that game very well)

Leeds Utd 29 19 10 0 51-16 48
Liverpool 28 16 7 5 37-23 39
Derby Co 29 11 10 8 35-28 32
Ipswich T 28 13 6 9 47-42 32

1987-88 : 16-Mar-88
Liverpool lost to Everton away 0-1 on 20-Mar-88
(thank you Everton!)

Liverpool 29 22 7 0 67-13 73
Man U 31 16 10 5 48-30 58
Everton 30 15 8 7 41-18 53
Nottm For 28 15 7 6 52-26 52


Longest unbeaten sequence in a season:

If Arsenal win or draw their 30th game, they will tie a record which has stood for over 80 years - the longest unbeaten sequence in a season. In 1920-21, Burnley lost their 3rd game of the season on 4-Sep-20 (they lost their first 2 games as well), and their next loss was on 26-Mar-21, their 34th game of the season .. of the remaining 8 games, they lost 2 and drew 4, but finished the season as League Champions.

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#218605 - Wed Mar 24 2004 07:25 AM Re: FA Premier League
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Nice stats, gt.

I reckon Man United will win this encounter.The pressure will be really on Arsenal (especially if they lose to Chelsea) and I don't think they'll be able to handle it.

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#218606 - Wed Mar 24 2004 07:33 AM Re: FA Premier League
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As much as it pains me to say it, I cannot see Arsenal losing this game especially at Highbury. United's defence isn't solid, and makeshift players are being utilised in these positions. Keane has played centre-back, and Giggs left-back in the last few weeks and Thierry Henry and co. will capitalise on that. United are always capable of scoring goals, but that's never been a problem unlike the defence.
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#218607 - Fri Mar 26 2004 08:10 AM Re: FA Premier League
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i LOVE IT WHEN YOUR WRONG




CMON THE ARSENAL!!!!!!!!!!

HAVE MY SEAT IN THE NORTH BANK LIBRARY...SHOULD BE A GOOD GAME I THINK
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#218608 - Fri Mar 26 2004 12:25 PM Re: FA Premier League
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This is one game Arsenal can't afford to lose. It doesn't bother me if they drew, they just need to stay unbeaten. I hope Arsenal wins!

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#218609 - Fri Mar 26 2004 02:03 PM Re: FA Premier League
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I think affording to lose is somethign Arsenal can do...to be honest my team have equalled the record, so i guess if they were to lose on sunday it would not be the end of the world..affording to lose is for Man Utd..they lose this one and they sit 15 points behind Arsenal with 24 points to play for, but more alarmingly potentially 6 points behind Chelsea.......
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#218610 - Fri Mar 26 2004 03:10 PM Re: FA Premier League
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United have nothing to lose. It's obvious where the title is going, fourth place gets a Champions League spot next season, so what's the panic? Second, third or fourth.. makes no difference to me.
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#218611 - Fri Mar 26 2004 04:17 PM Re: FA Premier League
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Come on we have been here before

With six matches to go it was seven points last season and look what happened. You win on sunday and it opens it up for Chelsea...for me the key game of all of them is the penultimate one at OT when your mob entertain Chelsea.


Are you going to Highbury or Villa Park SG?
If not would you like me to grab you a match programme for both, or do you get them other ways?
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#218612 - Sun Mar 28 2004 02:40 PM Re: FA Premier League
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Wow, what a game to watch! This was thrilling from start to end, and I will agree that Arsenal deserved to win. Jens Lehman made some fantastic saves to keep United out, as did Carroll for United. Absolutely fantastic. Give me more games like this.. but don't give my heart that many!
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#218613 - Mon Mar 29 2004 01:29 AM Re: FA Premier League
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It was on live here, at 1am Monday morning. I was watching Rush Hour 2, waiting for the game to start; fell asleep on the lounge, and woke up at 4am. I missed the game!

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#218614 - Mon Mar 29 2004 03:28 AM Re: FA Premier League
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It was a cracker. We were all a bit flat in the ground after failing to win, but I'd have taken the result before the game.

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#218615 - Mon Mar 29 2004 08:09 AM Re: FA Premier League
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there is a subtle difference between finishing 2nd, 3rd & 4th.

The top two qualify for the Champions League direct, with 3rd & 4th having a potential banana skin in pre-qualifying .....
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#218616 - Mon Mar 29 2004 08:22 AM Re: FA Premier League
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Was at the game and was in North Bank watching Henry slam home that fantastic goal, however, i felt Wenger got his subs all wrong and effectively allowed United to come on to us in the last 10 minutes, resulting in a well worked but soft equaliser.

I felt we did enough to win but with United its never over till its over. And i still can not believe Lauren in the closing moments that (a) he did not shoot, or (b) he did not square to Henry...reports say that they both had a bit of a punch up in the tunnell becasue Theirry was so angry with Lauren's wastefulness.

All in all had i been offered 1-1 before id of taken it..Arsenal now have the greatest start to a season and for that i applaud them..but the biggest smiles yesterday were in Chelsea...7 points is still a nice gap....but im not counting my chickens yet...i remember last season all too well...

Fair result yesterday...now for round two next week..with Wenger resting his star players...
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#218617 - Fri Apr 09 2004 07:44 AM Re: FA Premier League
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Arsenal v Liverpool 4-2, from 1-2 down at half time .. what a game, and what a stupendous hat-trick by Thierry Henri; and there goes an 80 year old record - 31 games undefeated during a season.

If they can last 7 more games, and finish the season undefeated, wow! The last, and only, time the League Champions finished the season undefeated was in 1888-89, when the Football League was formed (22 games in a 12 team comp).

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#218618 - Mon Apr 12 2004 02:29 AM Re: FA Premier League
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I can see at least one defeat in the remaining fixtures G. If it's not against Leeds at Highbury ( ), it'll be against Spurs at White Hart Lane.

Please,please,please etc.

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#218619 - Wed Aug 25 2004 07:21 AM Re: FA Premier League
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The record was broken; Arsenal went through the season undefeated. Another record may fall tonight, if Arsenal don't lose at Highbury v Blackburn Rovers -- most matches undefeated in the top tier. They equalled Forest's record of 42 games undefeated when they beat Middlesbough 5-3 on the weekend. The previous record was held by Leeds United, at 34 games undefeated.

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Nottingham Forest
Lost 0-1 at Leeds United on 19-Nov-77. Their next loss was 0-2 at Anfield on 9-Dec-78.

P. W. D. L. F-A
42 21 21 0 58-22

Arsenal
Their last loss was 2-3 at home to Leeds United on 4-May-03.

P. W. D. L. F-A
42 30 12 0 92-31

Leeds United
Lost 1-5 at Burnley on 19-Oct-68. Their next loss was 2-3 at Goodison Park on 30-Aug-69.

P. W. D. L. F-A
34 19 15 0 51-16


Who'll knock Arsenal off their perch?

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#218620 - Sun Aug 29 2004 10:08 AM Re: FA Premier League
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Well it has to soon happen

44 matches now after dispatching yet another 4 goals into an onion bag.....

match 50 and its Old Trafford.....bring it on......
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#218621 - Thu Sep 02 2004 12:45 AM Re: FA Premier League
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anyone know what the record is for all divisions ????
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#218622 - Thu Sep 02 2004 06:05 AM Re: FA Premier League
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anyone know what the record is for all divisions ????




Arsenal have it.
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#218623 - Thu Oct 21 2004 02:48 AM Re: FA Premier League
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Here's few stats before this weekend's Manchester United vs Arsenal match at Old Trafford:

2003-04 United 0-0 Arsenal
2002-03 United 2-0 Arsenal
2001-02 United 0-1 Arsenal
2000-01 United 6-1 Arsenal
1999-00 United 1-1 Arsenal
1998-99 United 1-1 Arsenal
1997-98 United 0-1 Arsenal
1996-97 United 1-0 Arsenal
1995-96 United 1-0 Arsenal
1994-95 United 3-0 Arsenal
1993-94 United 1-0 Arsenal
1992-93 United 0-0 Arsenal

  • Manchester United have won 6, Arsenal 2, and there have been 4 draws.
  • Arsenal have never scored more than one goal at Old Trafford since the Premiership began.
  • If Manchester United win, they will notch up exactly 1,000 points in the Premiership.
  • If Arsenal win, it's 50 not out.
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#218624 - Thu Oct 21 2004 03:06 AM Re: FA Premier League
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2000-01 United 6-1 Arsenal




Ahh happy days I wonder what the odds are for a repeat of that one.
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#218625 - Thu Oct 21 2004 06:40 AM Re: FA Premier League
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Not a hope in hell my Mancunian wonder boys!

The wenger boys are coming to town, and one expects 2-0 to the Gunners

BTW SG

You forget to add the FA Cup tie a couple of season back when indeed the Gunners won 2-0..so it can be done....

and Treble99

2001-02 United 0-1 Arsenal

Ahh happy evening to land the title in your back yard!!!
The odds of us repeating that are well impossible, but hte result, certainly more possible than the *coughs* jammy 6-1 you had the season before.
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#218626 - Thu Oct 21 2004 06:43 AM Re: FA Premier League
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all this hype .... it can only be an anti-climax you know .....
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#218627 - Thu Oct 21 2004 07:01 AM Re: FA Premier League
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You forget to add the FA Cup tie a couple of season back when indeed the Gunners won 2-0




That was obviously left out, as it was an FA Cup game, not Premiership.
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#218628 - Thu Oct 21 2004 09:15 AM Re: FA Premier League
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LMAO i know SG

Still Oleg maybe right 0-0 is predictable!!
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