#228788 - Mon Jun 07 2004 10:01 PM
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#228789 - Tue Jun 08 2004 01:29 PM
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Doesn't the cat land first, having the greater mass and area and the ability to rotate it's body?
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#228790 - Tue Jun 08 2004 05:44 PM
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#228791 - Tue Jun 08 2004 08:14 PM
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Just to let you know that your theory may have merit if the cat was tossed out the window a few feet from the ground. (The distance is NOT stated)
If the cat was tossed out a window from a greater height (say 100 stories) the cat would have time to "right" itself, by rotating its head first, followed by its body, and finally it would have time to relax. Thus, when it hit the bottom, it would land on its feet, and would suffer minor injuries such as pneumothorax (air outside the lungs), a split hard palate, and maybe some fractures to its legs.
If a cat was tossed out a window from a lesser height (say 25 feet) the cat would not have time to "right" itself, and would crash land on bottom, splattered.
By the way, this is according to the "Cornell Book of Cats" medical book. The window theory is called "High Rise Syndrome," and is proven that the higher the fall, the cat doesn't die. The lesser the fall, the cat does die.
Now you add the buttered toast which lands buttered side down and tie it to the cat, the ONLY thing that's going to happen is that the cat will get whacked in the head or body by the buttered toast and have greasy fur and possibly butter in its face. There is NO possible way that a piece of butter toast is going to make cat crash land...only gravity and a lesser fall can do that.
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#228792 - Fri Jun 11 2004 03:38 PM
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#228793 - Fri Jun 11 2004 04:31 PM
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It was a theoretical question: if a cat always lands on it feet and toast always lands butter-side up, which would hit first? It's syaing that if those rules were true, and there were no alternate options for cat and toast, which would land first...
And, if you read the last part of my post, you would have seen that I answered the question and debunked your theory about a cat and a single piece of toast. They wouldn't land on their sides, and they wouldn't float.
Theories have to have a reality basis to them, and saying that the cat and the toast would land on their sides or float is totally ridiculous, with no reality or logic to it.
That would be like me saying that dinosaurs became extinct because gravity became no more on planet Earth and the dinosaurs floated into outerspace. Would that be a logical and reasonable theory? Um...I don't think so.
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#228794 - Sat Jun 12 2004 11:11 AM
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#228795 - Sat Jun 12 2004 05:19 PM
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Uh, well...there is logic to my theory, all though facts are definitely killing me, I admit that there is no way for my theory to work...no way for the cat to float or even land on its side. BUT, if rules were in place on this, our earth, that said a cat always had to land on its feet, AND that toast always landed butter-side down...Technically I am correct.
Technically you are still incorrect, as cats don't always land on their feet. If you read my original post, you would have seen that if a cat falls from a great distance, it lands on its feet. If the cat falls from a shorter distance, the cats goes splat.
Unfortunately, for your theory, the only way the buttered toast would ever interfere in the cat's fall and make it crash land, would be if the cat had 4 pieces of buttered toast tied butter side down on its feet. Then, no matter how far the fall, the cat would then crash land on its side (the buttered toast having made the cat slip and fall).
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#228796 - Sat Jun 12 2004 05:28 PM
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#228797 - Sat Jun 12 2004 06:33 PM
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1.) No hard feelings.
2.) The original poster did not say anything about a made-up world. He meant the world we live in.
3.) The original poster said NOTHING about toast being strapped or tied to the cat's feet. That was ME...I said that to explain the ONLY way your theory would work.
4.) When stating a theory, you can NOT add things (i.e., a made-up world) to make your theory work.
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#228798 - Sat Jun 12 2004 08:07 PM
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#228799 - Sat Jun 12 2004 08:18 PM
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This conversation is over because you can't make a theory work by changing the rules of physics. You can't interject a make believe world to make your theory work. It's not logical. Therefore, until you can logically explain how and why a cat and a single piece of toast will float or land on their sides, this subject is finished.
I logically and physically explained my theory, WITHOUT changing a thing. I explained it without creating a make believe world.
I have no problems with the topic, but I have a problem when a person does not use logic and forces things to work by changing things and making a make believe world. That is NOT how theories work. Ask any scientist, doctor, theorist (a true theorist not someone pretending to be one), paleontologist, etc.
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#228800 - Sun May 08 2005 03:28 PM
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3 things.One:why does DLHENRY'S posts keep being delted?Seccondly,It would depend o nthe height you dropped them from and WHERE the toast was tied.if,say he was dropped from a high height with the toast strapped to his back,he would right himself and the toast would fall last.However,low height,toast on back,he would be crushed and the toast would land first.
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#228801 - Sun May 08 2005 04:29 PM
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He deleted his posts, something we prefer members NOT to do especially once they have received a reply as it makes a nonsense of the thread. Before you ask, he did this then more recently requested a change of username.
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