As I'm involved with psychic researchers, both reporters and active participants in those areas directly, I hear many things that are supposed to be going on, and then try to follow up the best ones.

Well, despite the usual setbacks (losing all my data, not having my emails replied to etc) I'm going to pursue this one, as it's not only a massive claim, but the way to do it is apparently so simple it can be done in a school laboratory.

The formula (so far, I'm waiting for the middle bit, which is not a secret but the subject of my email query that was ignored) is to get a small piece of pure gold (only a little is needed which would only cost maybe £50 or less) and this is powdered and heated. As gold can be rolled to a single molecule thick, it can also be powdered into individual molecules, called monatomic gold. The lab I contacted makes this powder to be taken for health reasons, and they tell all their customers (dig this...) 'please don't use 100% pure gold for us to process as it disappears'.

Apparently while being heated as a powder, pure gold is transformed to another dimension, and loses all its weight. Another source (David Hudson, but not reliable as both his source laboratories contradicted this claim) said if it cools down it returns as it was before, thus going in and out of this dimension. The laboratory share the process with the public, so anyone with a simple knowledge of science and a small item of gold can do it for themselves. Sadly that was a victim of my data loss, but as soon as I get their website, you can check them out as I'll add the link. Till then, a search on 'monatomic gold' will tell you all about it, but so far hasn't raised this particular site.

Satguru your posts are always interesting to read and ponder over. The following is from this site.

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David Hudson is a fourth generation Arizona farmer who became interested in extracting gold and silver from the "tailings" of old mining sites near his 675 acre farm. When he began the recovery process he soon discovered that gold and silver were being lost because of the buildup of a powdery substance referred to as "ghost gold" by miners and metallurgists. Hudson's curiosity led him to work with spectroscopists at Cornell University and other labs to discover the elemental ingredients of this powder. Initial findings of the sample yielded iron, silica and aluminum. Further extraction of these elements left 98 percent of the powder intact. The surprise was that this 98 percent consisted of nothing which could be identified through normal spectroscopic analysis.

Hudson knew that this "nothing" could be seen, felt, tasted and weighed. It had to be something and he was determined to find out what it was. In the course of his research he found a paper from the Soviet Academy of Sciences stating that a proper spectroscopic analysis required a 300 second burn instead of the 15 second burn used in the United States. Utilizing the Soviet technique of fractional vaporization, Hudson discovered that his sample contained the elements palladium, platinum, ruthenium, rhodium, iridium and osmium. Even more astounding was his discovery that each of the nonmetallic elemental forms was a superconductor, a substance which allows an electric current to flow without resistance even in the absence of a continually applied potential.

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As you state though David Hudson appears to be not as reliable as other sources.

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Nostradamus predicted that by 1999 "occult gold" would be known to science. Other prophecies indicate the discovery of this "occult gold" would be made by a direct descendant of the Davidic blood line. According to the book, Holy Blood, Holy Grail, the Davidic blood line is continued today in the French de Guise family name. Long after his research into the white powders began, David Hudson discovered he was a direct descendant of this French family.

Could David Hudson be the one chosen to fulfill these ancient prophecies? Revelation 2: 17 says, "... To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."

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This site has links to similar thoughts for those interested.

Thanks Roos, that was very nice of you.

A bit more detail on David Hudson, though I knew nothing of his bloodline, which is yet another fascinating coincidence of many that I come across. After reading his article in Nexus magazine, my main source of current claims, I emailed Dr Hal Puthoff, the scientist he said was helping him, and who also studied Uri Geller 30 years ago, and he was very pleased as he said in fact David Hudson didn't follow through with their meeting to carry out experiments, and was glad I'd let him know. Another scientist from the main website and forum on white gold www.zz.com gave me the lab reports (also went west unless I can find the print out I made from the email) which explained how various results had been misinterpreted by David Hudson that were actually inconclusive at best.
It was only when my friend told me that stuff was still 'disappearing' from a totally independent source that I revived my check on it. Sooner or later I'll find out the answer there as it's a pretty straightforward claim to test.
And funny you mention the De Guise family. I'd never heard of the name till last week when I saw it- guess where- on an old forum post! It's the real name of one of our members, so if she's got the 'midas touch', we're all connected through Funtrivia. Quite amazing! Marie De Guise

This is the formula from the site which I described, though they attribute it to David Hudson, who I found had numerous inconsistencies, it appears to be the way they make it themselves. If you want to read more, you can then return to www.asc-alchemy.com

The formula

So, apparently if you use pure gold, step 19 (heating to 300C), it should disappear. Good luck if you have a lab and a lot of time to spare! I'm passing this on to a few people I know in the business and if any can be bothered to go through such a process in the name of science, I'll post the results. Mind you, if they turn out to be true, I think they'll be reported a lot more widely than only here!

I have looked only a little at the website so I don't know if it mentions this...How do we know it goes into an alternate dimension? What if, when heated, the matter evaporates into an invisible gas state, and when it cools down, the matter forms again. Remember, I haven't read much at the site.

I don't want to misquote all the data by trying to summarise it with little scientific knowledge, but they also report antigravity (affecting everything that touches it as well) and other very abnormal effects, implying something more than evaporation is going on. There are plenty of sites explaining their theories, and now I'm sending the formula around to see if I can finally get my own report done to get a definitive answer. I hope someone here could also have the resources needed to try it as the more experiments, the better.

If it does go to another dimension, imagine the beings in that dimension and how surprised they would be when gold showed up there.

Well of course, if it does really disappear out of our dimension...it may lose all its properties such as invisibility...

That's quite true. We can't take anything for granted about unknown areas of science. At present we only know gravity exists, for example, by its effects. We can't measure or find what causes it directly.
Twinned quantum particles, and quantum teleportation (mentioned elsewhere by me) mean that at quantum level current laws of physics do not apply. Once we can see these effects on a larger scale, then literally anything's possible.

And I want to be there to see it when we do!

I would like to be there as well. I know this is my future, and try as hard as I can to complete my goals of bettering techonology, and I always strive to learn and experience new things.

Have you ever experienced Supercomputer Virtual Reality? It is truly amazing...the picture in my profile does not give justice to how awesome it is. It's in Fairbanks, Alaska.

Gotta add this to my favorite threads...

Well, since discovering the formula, my latest question is why a university that does investigate this sort of thing (we even have two locally, Hatfield and Goldsmith's College) doesn't try it, as it isn't expensive, just time consuming. It may be down to a severe lack of publicity, blanket skepticism or a combination of both, as well as preferring to use money for more reliable experiments (in their view). I was talking to my friends who told me about this, and they thought the practitioners may not be interested in proving it at all in order to rewrite science, but quite happy to do their own thing and not care at all about greater implications.

I'm sure a few enquiries to their site and message board will elicit more details on this, as it's their duty to prove it to us, not for us to accept it offhand. Basically it either works or it doesn't, and using a relatively simple chemistry experiment to demonstrate something both repeatable (the biggest hurdle against proving psychic powers) and miraculous appears to me to be our current best chance to test this type of claim. I haven't the resources to do it, all I can do is tell others, but this isn't even the first time I've seen such a casual attitude from both the proponents and the potential investigators of apparently major discoveries (eg my friend's water-driven engine http://www.earth2012.org ) which actually needs an amount spent by other industries on about a day's research to finish the prototype, but are set to take a year or more if they're lucky enough ever to raise it. In fact some of the very discoveries similar to these have actually become mainstream science about 50 years later, after all that time in the shadows waiting for the rest of society to catch up! Any other theories why such clear evidence remains uninvestigated for so long, or am I about right in my guesses, and if so, can we ever do anything to make society more ready to look into the apparently unbelievable where it seems pretty easy to find out?

Wow, that's definitely going to help the world.

Have you heard about the man who created a form of gas that was made out of chicken feces? I heard that his idea was lost because a government official of some sort told him he couldn't mess with things like that or something along those lines.

My Grandfathers third wife worked for GM Motors and actually got to see a hovercar up close. She said it was simply amazing. I'm sure it was.

I'm getting a little off topic here, but I find it interesting.