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#237614 - Wed Aug 11 2004 06:14 AM Re: Mary Kay Letourneau Released
pegazus999 Forum Adept Registered: Sun Jun 13 2004 Posts: 158 Loc: Madrid, Spain	Yes I know, as I wrote a little lower in the text - what I meant was that there should have been another one like damnsuicidalroos suggested where she would again, after getting out of jail, be ordered not to see him, and then put into therapy to deal with the new life now. _________________________ "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer." ~ A.Camus
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#237615 - Mon Aug 16 2004 06:10 AM Re: Mary Kay Letourneau Released
traverse75 Enthusiast Registered: Wed Nov 01 2000 Posts: 301 Loc: Michigan USA	Quote: Yes I know, as I wrote a little lower in the text - what I meant was that there should have been another one like damnsuicidalroos suggested where she would again, after getting out of jail, be ordered not to see him, and then put into therapy to deal with the new life now. You cannot do things like that if you are going to pretend to have a free society. I notice that you live in Spain, by the way--where the age of consent was 12 until 1996, when it was raised all the way to 13. I am surprised that you have such reactionary views when your country is so progressive.
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#237616 - Mon Aug 16 2004 06:35 AM Re: Mary Kay Letourneau Released
ladymacb29 Moderator Registered: Wed Mar 15 2000 Posts: 16214 Loc: The Delta Quadrant	Yes, you can order people to do things like that. Look at half the family law or abuse cases that go before a court - many times the two parties are ordered to have no contact. Same thing with cases where the two parties could get together to 'agree upon' a story. Point is, you can order people to have no contact until certain conditions have been met. If you don't like it, you can always find another country. (As for your point about Spain - notic ehow they raised the age.) _________________________ "Without the darkness, how would we see the light?" ~ Tuvok Editor for Television Category
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#237617 - Mon Aug 16 2004 09:11 PM Re: Mary Kay Letourneau Released
traverse75 Enthusiast Registered: Wed Nov 01 2000 Posts: 301 Loc: Michigan USA	ladymacb, of course they do it. That's not news. The government violates our human rights on a routine basis. That doesn't mean we have to pretend it's acceptable. Vili is 21 and there is absolutely no justification whatsoever for the court to have any say in his life whatever.
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#237618 - Mon Aug 16 2004 09:18 PM Re: Mary Kay Letourneau Released
traverse75 Enthusiast Registered: Wed Nov 01 2000 Posts: 301 Loc: Michigan USA	Quote: I concur with Sue---the biggest thing they had going for them was at the time of the affair this was secretive and taboo. Um...were you there? Quote: Isn't their a syndrome (Stockholm or something like that) where the victim comes to associate and aspire to love the perpetrator? Yes. However, this typically applies to individuals like Patty Hearst who are abducted, raped and brainwashed. Even Letourneau's worst critics, if they have an ounce of intellectual honor, would scruple at comparing the two. Quote: There are those that feel rather sympathetic to the situation and I wonder what they see that I can't? Ask Vili.
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#237619 - Mon Aug 16 2004 10:03 PM Re: Mary Kay Letourneau Released
Gatsby722 Pure Diamond Registered: Fri May 18 2001 Posts: 123698 Loc: Canton Ohio USA	OK. Look. That's enough. I can't listen to this anymore. You are not addressing a "peculiar love affair" (and those do happen) but what you are championing is some case for child sexual abuse. That you don't see the difference between the two is beyond my grasp to explain to you or anyone else. I find your thinking offensive, rude and, now, attacking to others on this site. If saying so gets me booted off here, then so be it. I'd rather be booted than have to read your junk. Enough said, I guess. _________________________ "The best teacher is not the one who knows most but the one who is most capable of reducing knowledge to that simple compound of the obvious and wonderful." ... H. L. Mencken
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#237620 - Mon Aug 16 2004 11:14 PM Re: Mary Kay Letourneau Released
gtho4 Administrator Registered: Sun Dec 26 1999 Posts: 54484 Loc: Sydney oz downunder	This thread is closed. FT did have a Controversial Issues forum, but that is now past tense. There are plenty of sites on the net which cater for debates/discussions/whatever; this site isn't one of them. e.g. http://www.opendebate.com
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