#251973 - Wed Dec 15 2004 06:40 PM
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My neighbors have one on their house. So, I asked them about it. According to them ,it isn't a religious expression, it's just a decorative thing.
I've noticed the stars you're talking about being sold in rustic antique type stores, so I'm thinking they are just a new decorative craze.
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#251974 - Wed Dec 15 2004 11:51 PM
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Does it look sort of tacky to you?
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#251975 - Thu Dec 16 2004 09:27 AM
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I haven't seen a 5 pointed star on any houses here, but I was intrigued some years ago to see people using the traditional Jewish 6 pointed star in the same way on their houses as a Christmas decoration. I think it was a decorative reason rather than any other, but maybe they're coming over to our way of thinking after all  (being Jewish myself).
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#251976 - Thu Dec 16 2004 03:59 PM
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Does it look sort of tacky to you?
Yes, it does. I'm not a big fan of the trend either, so you aren't alone.
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#251978 - Sat Dec 18 2004 08:53 PM
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That's the one McG., I think the manufacturers probably are more interested in presentation than accuracy, though there may be an obscure reason for it (maybe the star they followed to Jesus?). It did seem odd for a minute to think half the population of a Surrey estate were Jewish till I realised it was something different!
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#251979 - Sat Dec 18 2004 09:52 PM
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I think a lot of people have no idea why they decorate the way they do. Like the kayaking Santa.
Oh my, now there's one I've never seen. I've seen Santa with a sleigh being pulled by alligators, Santa on a jet ski, Santa on a quad, even Santa on a toilet (tastelss really), but Santa on a kayak is a new one.
I think some folks just embellish their yard trash for the holidays. The Santa on a jet ski was displayed by a person trying to sell said jet ski.
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#251980 - Mon Dec 20 2004 09:09 PM
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You see those stars on many of the homes in Lancaster Pennsylvania. I was told by a worker at a Pennsylvania Dutch restaurant/gift shop that they were a PA Dutch symbol, but she didn't know what they represented. You also see smaller iron stars on the end of a row rowhomes here in Baltimore. I've also seen them in New Orleans. I was told these had something to do with marking main cross beams--which was useful to fire patrols, but I have no hard proof if this is correct
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#251981 - Tue Dec 21 2004 08:51 AM
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think yourself lucky, there are no christmas decorations in my village, nary a one, boring
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#251982 - Tue Dec 21 2004 09:54 AM
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Then I would think you have the responsibility here of upholding the British tradition of put-as-much-trashy-stuff-on the -tree-and-stick-it-on-the-balcony. Doesn't everyone?You have to show yourself as the true Gweilo that you are at heart.
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#251983 - Thu Mar 24 2005 01:13 AM
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That's the Star of David, isn't it? ... I think a lot of people have no idea why they decorate the way they do....The five-point star isn't a holiday decoration, though. It appears to be a permanent embellishment.
Wow, I can't believe no other Pagans have hopped on this thread!
A five-pointed star is a Pentagram. A Star of David has six points.
You're right, most people don't have any idea what they are using as decorations. So allow me to enlighten...
The Pentagram (also called Pentacle) is an ancient symbol, originally used by Pagans. By pagans I mean those who followed seasonal patterns, who recognized the concept of a female deity as well as a male, and who were intently interested in things reproducing- plants, sheep, cows- basically, farmers. ('cause otherwise, they'd starve!)
Incidentally, the term "pagan" started being used by the Church when it moved into the area, in what we are all familiar with every election year; mudslinging. "Pagan" meant "country dweller", and since the Church was based in the city, and most of it's converts were in the city (non-farmers), this term became synonymous with an ignorant, lower-class, possibly even dangerous person. This happens today as well- think on these terms; Hell's Angel, Hillbilly, Redneck, Punk.
Anyways, when the Church was busy trying to convert as many people as possible- more people=more donations=more Churches- they found that the people they were dealing with didn't like the concept of a whole, brand-spankin' new religion with all new things to learn. So, they "borrowed" a few things.
They built their churches on pagan holy ground. They scheduled their holidays to land on, or extremely close to, pagan holidays. They used imagery & customs, songs & chants, incense & rituals- you name it. (easter eggs, rabbits, 'christmas' trees, mistletoe, holly, yule logs, santa- etc, etc- all Pagan in origin)
One of the symbols they used was the Pentagram. It's points- in the Pagan beliefs - stand for Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and Spirit. All the elements needed for life. When the Church started using the pentagram, they alternately described the five points being a symbol of man- a head (top point), 2 outstretched arms, and 2 legs. DaVinci's depiction. Later, the Church used the pentagram to symbolize Christ's wounds, or to symbolize the star that appeared when Christ was born. There are still churches in Europe, especially Germany, that have stained-glass windows with pentagrams.
Eventually, in an effort to stamp out those darn stubborn pagans that refused to convert, the Church decreed that pagans were evil, worshipped evil gods, and that the pentagram was an evil symbol. You notice this scare tactic still being used by low-budget Hollywood movies, and low-intelligence TV shows (like "Buffy" and "Charmed"). Whenever they want to make sure the audience understands that these teenagers are 'opening a portal to hell', they depict them sitting on a large pentagram, wearing pentagrams, etc. This is usually about 2-5 minutes before the blood starts flowing, and screaming & chaos ensues.
Today, modern Pagans are taking back their beliefs, and their symbols. Many Pagans wear their pentagrams openly, and yes, many decorate their homes with them.
So, the five-pointed star actually *is* a holiday decoration- in fact, it was being used long before the holiday was called "Christmas".
So if you see someone with a pentagram on the front of their house, they're either: A)Pagan, and proud of it, celebrating Winter Solstice, B)Christian, and proud of it, displaying the star that indicated their savior was born, C) easily led into marketing schemes to buy whatever is "hot", and pentagrams are 'hot' right now, D)an average joe, who knows nothing whatsoever about any of this, and just thinks it looks cool. Answers A-D could be correct, in some cases even more than one answer could apply.
SH 
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#251984 - Wed Feb 28 2007 10:27 PM
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Blue 5-angel star= Family member currently serving in a War Gold 5-angel star= Lost a Family member in a War Red 5-angel star= Family member wounded in combat Brown 5-angel star= Veteran of the military
These are commonly misunderstood for decorative items but they do have meaning.. Its the same as if a girl hangs a yellow ribbon on their porch to represent they have had their boyfriend/husband sent to war(Recently family members have been doing the same).. hope that clarifes it.
P.S. my friends cousin has a Blue a red and a gold on their house. Their is a lot of meaning behind it but people dont even know. -sobs- PFC McGarvey United States Army Infantry
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#251985 - Wed Feb 28 2007 10:48 PM
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You are probably thinking of stars printed on white silk banners and hung in windows, PFC McGarvey. Seen everywhere during WWII, they have made a huge comeback in recent years here in the States. I don't know if they are of military issue this time, or provided through some civilian company. I'm pleased to see the idea has been revived. In Texas, having a five pointed star somewhere on your home [ mine is on the newel post at the base of the staircase] is merely a display of affection for one's home state - nothing exotic or fraught with deeper meaning. 
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#251986 - Thu Mar 01 2007 09:05 PM
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Shadowhippie - "You notice this scare tactic still being used by low-budget Hollywood movies, and low-intelligence TV shows (like "Buffy" and "Charmed"). Whenever they want to make sure the audience understands that these teenagers are 'opening a portal to hell', they depict them sitting on a large pentagram, wearing pentagrams, etc. This is usually about 2-5 minutes before the blood starts flowing, and screaming & chaos ensues".
I'm not sure how much TV you actually watch, however I am compelled to come to the defence of "Buffy". If you have spent any time watching this show you would know that the writing is quite intelligent, satirical and original, Emmy Award winning even. You would also know that this very topic is discussed many times in the show and depicts the Pagan symbol as you have.
I understand that this is not a TV discussion, however I wanted to express my support for your historical accuracy and to point out that one should understand something before one criticises it.
In this particular instance, I agree that the emergence of these 'decorative' stars is actually based on current world events and pertains to military operatives.
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#251987 - Thu Mar 01 2007 09:54 PM
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I have both types of stars - the decorative metal and the one like those seen on a silk banner. I guess I must fall into the "borderline tacky" group for my metal one but in my defense, I don't have it hung yet as it is still in the process of being embellished so as to make it unique. I have commissioned a local artist to take one of the ordinary stars, paint it copper and then paint a cardinal inside the bottom "leg" so it will fit in with my indoor decorative touches or "stand out" if I should decide to hang it outdoors. I have seen many of these stars in southwestern Pennsylvania on barns, homes, over garages and even businesses. I believe it was originally signifying the Pennsylvania Dutch community in the beginning but now they are found just about anywhere. As I look out my window I can see one on the front of a neighbors home (I am now back in NY) that is quite large but it is "different" because it has a metal circle around the perimeter and it looks more like a cattle brand to me. As I said earlier, mine is still being personalized and now I wonder if I will look like a sheep for having something that so many other people also have, but I took steps to make mine more "unique" so that no one else will have one like mine.
I also have three stars hanging in my kitchen, these are new to my decor as I usually stick with my copper teapots, french roosters, speculaas boards and copper molds. I just had a large space that needed something on a grander scale to fill it and I found these stars that are quite different than what you would find on homefronts. These are punched tin with a wooden frame around the exterior. I must say they are quite attractive and give that end of my kitchen extra personality. So if I am tacky, so be it! I might be following a trend, but at least I am still unique in my taste. Maybe I will take a photo and share it on the photo-a-day thread ~
As for the silk star banner, I have a wooden one hanging on wire (again, just to be different) because my husband is STILL in Afghanistan. Truth be told, since the subject of military service came up earlier, my husband SHOULD have come home tomorrow from his year-long tour of duty but GW has extended most of our men another four months because he has taken their replacements and rerouted them to Iraq, the 'other war'. So maybe I and my son will get our soldier home sometime in June. My star banner will hang until then.
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#251988 - Fri Mar 02 2007 03:10 AM
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shadowhippie made that post on Thu Mar 24 2005 and is most unlikely to see your messages.
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#251990 - Fri Aug 06 2010 01:35 AM
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Thanks for you information i newly join and your post help me.
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