#252452 - Wed Dec 29 2004 03:47 AM
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Prolific
Registered: Wed Jun 11 2003
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Loc: Kolkata India
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Well, this morning I got some good news. My friend is OK, but injured severely. He's broken one arm and one leg. His parents are OK, and they've phoned me as well. I dearly hope he regains his health. The worst thing, which I heard, was that entire tribes may be washed out. There are lots of tribes in the Andaman Islands which are unique but do not have a large population. Today's paper said that it was quite possible that entire tribes might be washed out. I just can't think of it. We are losing an entire race of people.  On the subject of heart-renching stories, here are two that have brought a tear to my eyes. Five fishermen from Ulavpadu narrowly missed the tidal waves but jumped back to save a drowning couple. They were offered a reward but refused to accept it. Roy Phillips, bloodied and bruised repeatedly drove back into the waves to save fellow tourists.
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#252453 - Wed Dec 29 2004 04:06 AM
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I'm so glad your mate is safe Angi, if banged up some.
So many stories of bravery coming out of this it's hard to think how brave you would be yourself in such a situation.
That's the first I've heard about the tribes too, devastating stuff.
Edited by Copago (Wed Dec 29 2004 04:06 AM)
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#252454 - Wed Dec 29 2004 04:45 AM
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Registered: Mon Jun 03 2002
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Loc: Hobart Tasmania Australia
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The worst thing, which I heard, was that entire tribes may be washed out. There are lots of tribes in the Andaman Islands which are unique but do not have a large population. Today's paper said that it was quite possible that entire tribes might be washed out. I just can't think of it. We are losing an entire race of people.
I was reading that the Indian government does not usually contact some of these tribes on the Andaman Islands (including some Pygmy tribes) for fear of introducing diseases that the tribes would have no immunity to. Some of the tribes have had no contact with the outside for several years.
I will see if I can find the article I was reading yesterday.
HERE IS THE ARTICLE
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In part it says
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Six hunter-gatherer tribes including the fearsome Sentinelese aborigines inhabit 38 of the 572 rainforested islands, living in seclusion from outside world for millenia.
India has protected the tribes from modern contact in the fear of bacterial contamination, and little was known of their fate.
Shompen aborigines, numbering just 100, have occupied the Great Nicobar island for up to 60,000 years without being touched by modernity.
"Jarawas number around 300 but they are not as reclusive as the Shompens or the Sentinelese who occupy the North and East Sentinel Islands," Andamans Deputy Commissioner Vinod Kumar told AFP.
Under pressure from developers as India slowly allowed tourism, experts feared the six indigenous groups could face extinction within a generation because of their lack of immunity against diseases that developed in the outside world.
The Nicobaris, numbering around 30,000, form the largest tribal group but they have left the forests to live in the modern islet-town of Nicobar.
The Great Andamanese, who numbered as many as 10,000 in the 18th century, were decimated by the British after the islanders refused to submit to the crown.
By the 1970s just 19 survived, and while their numbers have crept up to 29 and homes built for them on tiny Strait island, their fate was uncertain even before the tsunamis hit.
Genetic evidence suggests that the pygmy-like aborigines -- of negrito origin with dark skin and curly hair that sets them apart from their Asian neighbours -- have lived on the Andamans from the dawn of civilisation.
"Last time the Sentinelese were contacted was in 1992 but will we see them again?" asked Kumar amid reports that the Sentinel islets took the brunt of Sunday's tidal waves.
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#252455 - Wed Dec 29 2004 05:54 AM
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Registered: Sat Nov 01 2003
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Loc: Eastbourne Sussex UK
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Lord Attenborough has lost a grand daughter in this disaster. It kind of hits home harder when someone in the public eye is caught up in a disaster such as this.
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#252456 - Wed Dec 29 2004 12:25 PM
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Registered: Sat Nov 06 2004
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Loc: Turku, Finland
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This is truly a huge disaster... The body counts keep rising and everyone is worried... People from all over the wolrd were there, some now dead, some still missing. Some people lost their children, and children have now lost their parents. I just heard of a family, consisting of a man, his brother, brother's wife and newborn. The newborn and wife were lost in the earthquakes...
It hurts to think that some people lost their families or friends in this accident. They would never see them again. This is why, you, halfbakedangi , are lucky.. Your friend and his parents are very lucky, hopefully they know that .
It also hurts to think that some people might have received a trip there as a gift, for a birthday or christmas or some other event...and just think, they were sent to die there...
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#252457 - Wed Dec 29 2004 12:45 PM
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It's amazing, both the numbers of the dead and the stories of the survivors...
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#252459 - Fri Dec 31 2004 02:42 PM
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What sort of figures are the saying for the UK, and other countries, being gone?
Here it is 10 confirmed dead, 41 confirmed missing and many hundreds unaccounted for. SO hopefully these unaccounted people just haven't contacted authorities or family instead of not being able to.
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#252460 - Fri Dec 31 2004 03:25 PM
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UK is 29 confirmed dead, more missing.
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#252462 - Fri Dec 31 2004 09:37 PM
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Registered: Mon Feb 10 2003
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For the last few days I`ve spent a couple of hours each evening watching the various news stations reports about this tragedy. I went through various stages, amazement, stunned disbelief,anger,cursing of a sadistic god that I don`t even believe in [I had just seen pictures of Australian confirmed dead and a picture of a baby not dissimilar looking to our own was there],helplesness, deciding to donate and finally just sorrow.
This brought tears to my eyes.
Anyone that can donate cash and doesn`t is rotten to the core. DONATE WHATEVER YOU CAN.
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#252463 - Sat Jan 01 2005 03:14 AM
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Registered: Fri Jan 03 2003
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Loc: New Delhi India
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BBC says 2500 Swedes are either dead or missing. Thats more than the number of Thais.
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#252464 - Sat Jan 01 2005 05:46 AM
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Registered: Sun Oct 12 2003
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Loc: Ambala India
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So, how does this reading on the richter scale practically effect the ground. Does the ground get vertical or something when it is 10?!?!? If yes, though I hope not, then this earth quake with a reading of 9 was disastrous.
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#252465 - Sat Jan 01 2005 06:57 AM
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The 'reading' has more to do with the size of the effected area than whether or not the ground goes vertical. A reading of 9 on the Richter scale would effect an area of up to 1,000 kilometres in length. the actual damage caused and number of fatalities depends entirely on where the quake occurs, and much smaller quakes can cause far greater damage than very large ones.
the Richter scale is logrithmic, ie, a quake with a magnitude of 9 is ten times greater than a magnitude 8 quake, which in turn is ten times greater than a magnitude 7. Thus the Indian ocean tsunami resulting from a magnitude 9 earthquake was 100 times greater than a magnitude 7.
The greatest magnitude in recorded history was that of the eartquake in Chile, about 700 kilometres south of Santiago. This was a magnitude 9.5 and occurred on 22nd May 1960. It created a tsunami which travelled across the Pacific ocean and devastated parts of Hawaii, 10,000 kilometres away! The death toll from this quake and the resultant tsunami, although serious with around 3,000 recorded fatalities, was as we all know nowhere near as bad as the recent Indian ocean quake and tsunami.
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#252466 - Sun Jan 02 2005 02:38 AM
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Registered: Sun Oct 12 2003
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Loc: Ambala India
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That's appreciated, aramis. I had totally wrong notions, and I must stop guessing. Well, I found an incredible picture of some island in Indonesia(banda aceh) and it speaks for itself. I've been sending it to all I can. Here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/upload/c/c8/Banda_Aceh_Before_and_After_2004_Tsunami.jpg
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#252467 - Sun Jan 02 2005 02:48 AM
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Banda Aceh is the provincial capital and largest city of Aceh, Indonesia, located on the island of Sumatra at a 5°31' North latitude and 95°25' East longitude at an elevation of 21 m. The population was approximately 150,000.
So it is hardly "some island in Indonesia"!
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I saw this in the paper:
In Banda Aceh, dazed people still wandered the muddy streets, looking for food, shelter and their missing families.
Among those waiting for help was Rahayamin, a 47-year-old woman who lost 15 relatives in the tsunami, including a daughter and two grandchildren.
She waited in line for crackers, biscuits and clothing, but said her supplies wouldn't last very long.
"All I can do now," she said, "is cry."
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#252468 - Sun Jan 02 2005 06:09 AM
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Registered: Tue Dec 28 2004
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I went through various stages, amazement, stunned disbelief,anger,cursing of a sadistic god that I don`t even believe in
This brought tears to my eyes.
Anyone that can donate cash and doesn`t is rotten to the core. DONATE WHATEVER YOU CAN.
Strange, if you don't believe in God, then you must believe that everything which exists, including human beings, is merely some form of physical and chemical process. If such is the case, then what does it matter if as part of this process, large numbers of people are turned back into their constituent elements. Surely without a belief in God, emotions like sadness, sympathy, and love have little real meaning.
Your post was clearly made in a state of considerable and understandable emotion, but I don't think you should make yourself a judge of people who choose not to make donations to this appeal. Many such people support other charitable works, and may have been doing so for longer than you could imagine, and are not 'rotten to the core'!
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#252469 - Sun Jan 02 2005 06:44 AM
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Loc: Adelaide SA Australia
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Oh no!
My new year's resolution prevents me responding to the previous post!
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#252471 - Sun Jan 02 2005 08:03 AM
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Great to hear from you Ace and that you're safe. Have we heard from all our Indian members now? What about Harish?
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#252474 - Mon Jan 03 2005 03:25 PM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/daily/graphics/tsunami_122804.htmlIn the map, click on 'satellite images' - there are photos before and after the quake and tsunami. Amazing that the landscape could change so quickly. It seems that the animal populations were not as hard hit - there is a thought that the animals could 'sense' the impending danger and moved inland. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6765999/ This is sort of how some dogs can sense when an epileptic is about to have a seizure.
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