#256008 - Wed Feb 02 2005 01:37 PM
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Sorry but I needed to vent a little. I love horror movies. It's my favorite movie genre. But I am getting tired of all these movies trying to be scary yet get a pg-13 rating. I know people have different tastes in movies and all but I honestly don't see how people thought movies like The Ring and The Grudge were even close to being scary. The grudge was ok as a movie but the Ring was just plain boring. I am just tired of all these crappy movies.
And of course there are the remakes. They remade Dawn of the dead which was a good movie but still loved the original. Loved the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre and didn't think it needed a reamke but they did. It was decent as a stand alone movie but not a remake. Now they are remaking Evil Dead which really got to me. They remade the ring which the original was WAY better as was the Grudge.
Just wanted to know what your thoughts on today's horror genre as well as your favorite movies.(horror)
Edited by hatchet17 (Wed Feb 02 2005 01:49 PM)
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#256009 - Fri Feb 04 2005 09:52 AM
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I love a good horror movie, but I guess my definition of horror is different from many. I thought The Ring was pretty good and I'm trying to talk my husband into watching The Grudge with me (I just won't watch them alone  . But too many movies that are classified as horror, to me, are just plain "slashers". I never could get into the Jason or Halloween movies because all it was was blood and gore and how many ways can somebody be sliced up? I like being scared by a good movie, not just grossed out.
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#256010 - Fri Feb 04 2005 11:55 PM
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I really liked "The Ring". Mainly because of the infamous tv scene, which was such a simple concept but terrifying nonetheless. "The Grudge"? Not so much.
I'm really excited about the "Amityville Horror" remake and NOT just because Ryan Reynolds is in it (Although that is a nice bonus) But it's also supposed to have new scenes from the book that was never in the original. I'm not sure I buy the whole "based on a true story" thing, though. And I know no one is going to be as awesome as James Brolin was in the original, but I'm always up for some scary fun.
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#256011 - Sat Feb 05 2005 09:34 AM
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I'm not sure I buy the whole "based on a true story" thing, though.
But it's not true.
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Kaplan had discovered that the "Amityville Horror" was pure invention. In 1979, a lawyer named William Weber confessed to his part in the hoax during a paranormal radio show hosted by author Joel Martin. Weber had been the lawyer for convicted killer Ronald DeFeo and he admitted that he and George Lutz had concocted the story of the haunting over a few bottles of wine. Weber's motive was to get a new trial for DeFeo, using a "Devil made him do it" defense. According to Weber, Lutz merely wanted to get out from under a mortgage that he couldn't afford. His business was in trouble and he needed a scheme to bail him out.
Kaplan found ample proof, outside of the glaring confession, that the story was a hoax. He gained access to the house on many occasions and found that the so-called "Red Room", where the book claimed occult ceremonies took place, was nothing more than a small pipe well that gave access to them if they needed to be repaired. No "demonic face" had ever appeared on the bricks inside of the fireplace. He also noted that the original front door of the house (blown off its hinges in the book) was still in place and intact. In addition, he found a writer for the local newspaper that had also been suspicious of the story. After some searching, the columnist discovered that the Lutz's had returned the day after "fleeing" from the house to hold a garage sale. He also charged that during their "28-day nightmare" that never once called the police for assistance, something that would have been commonly done under the circumstances. The list of things that did not happen in the house went on and on and to Kaplan (and to most everyone who listened to his rational arguments), the evidence for an "Amityville Hoax" was overwhelming.
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#256013 - Sat Feb 05 2005 10:54 PM
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The horror movies I like best are the Universal classics from the 30's & '40s such as "Frankenstein", "Dracula", "The Wolf Man", "The Mummy", etc. Finally they released many of the classic Universal creature films on dvd to promote either the theatrical or dvd release of "Van Helsing", which, I thought, was a pretty awful movie.
I also enjoy the Hammer horror films of the late '50s through early '70s, many of these starring Christopher Lee & Peter Cushing. Most of these movies are finally making it to dvd now.
There's so many great grade-b horror flicks that I get a kick out of watching. "Spider Baby" was released on dvd last year, that's a real classic horror/cult film. Something Weird Video is going a bang-up job releasing those horror/cult films on dvd (usually 2-3 films per dvd) with added bonus shorts that are almost as wacko as the main features themselves.
As for the Freddy/Jason/Michael series, to me, the first movie for each character was enough, the sequels all pointless.
I thought "The Ring" was okay, "The Grudge" was terrible, prefering the Japanese originals in both cases ("Ju on" was the film Hollywood vandalized for "The Grudge").
I liked the remake of "Dawn of the Dead", being a zombie-holic. Though the killer zombie movie for me has to be "Wild Zero", as it combines zombies and rock-n-roll.
My newest horror phase has being buying up the Italian "giallo" horror/mystery/fantasty films, especially those directed by Dario Argento. "Suspiria" is a horror masterpiece, and "Deep Red" is recommended for those who liked the first film in the "Halloween" and "Friday the 13th" series. For me, these giallo versions beat their Hollywood inspirations hands down.
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#256014 - Wed Mar 16 2005 12:39 PM
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The Ring-Fairly scary.
The Grudge-A#1 turd.
28 Days Later-B#2 turd.
The scariest movie of all time-The Exorcist(The original).
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#256015 - Wed Mar 16 2005 09:31 PM
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I gotta agree with Gosteelers. The Exorcist still scares the pants off me! I didn't find The Ring that scary, although everyone swore it was horrifying. Haven't seen The Grudge yet. I'll admit that the whole concept of 28 Days Later really freaked me out. It was like Night of the Living Dead only more evil. What was that one where the tooth fairy would kill you? That one was pretty cheesy. Oh, and I must admit that The Blair Witch Project (the first one) was pretty scary too!
The second one was just ridiculous.
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#256016 - Thu Mar 17 2005 06:12 AM
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To this day I will not watch Blair Witch, that one gave me nightmares. Today's horror movies are a bit of a turn off for me; I lean more toward psychological thrillers and found Identity to be interesting. That movie kept me guessing! If I had to recommend a good "horror" film I would choose The Omen - still the scariest movie (IMHO).
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#256017 - Thu Mar 17 2005 08:01 AM
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I remember seeing The Exorcist in the theater when I was about 17. I don't know if it was the combination of late night, the big screen or the horrifying content - but for the first [and only time ] I was panic stricken on the way home. Even my friend was shaken up and he was the sort who didn't back down for anything! 
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#256018 - Thu Mar 17 2005 11:18 AM
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Well, you all have effectively talked me out of watching The Grudge.  I do agree, though, that 28 Days Later was horrrible. It was so boring that I didn't even watch it to the end. Now as for The Exorcist, *shudder* the scariest part for me was when Regan came down the stairs on all fours. *shudder again* And I am so looking forward to The Ring Two even though I know it'll be cheesy.
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#256019 - Thu Mar 17 2005 03:48 PM
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The horror movie genre is also my favorite. I too like the old movies like Dracula and Frankenstein . The Exorcist was awesome. Even the new one, The Exorcist: The Beginning , was great, and not to mention.. scarey! The Halloween movies, but especially the first one, are really good. The first Nightmare on Elm Street is awesome. Talk about not being able to sleep at night, sheesh. The Omen wasn't really scarey, but it was still a good movie.
Horror movies today, some are good, and some aren't so good. The Ring wasn't scarey, but it still was good, until the end. It ruined the whole thing for me. I'm hoping The Ring 2 will be much better. I want to see The Grudge, not just because it's a horror, but I'm a big fan of Sarah Michelle Gellar. Boogeyman looks good too, and hopefully it's scarey!
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#256020 - Thu Mar 17 2005 06:45 PM
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i love horror movies, but i try to stay away from pg-13, they're usually not real scary. I adore anything with Stephen King's name on it. After all who else could make a coke machine or an icecream truck scare you to death
(Maximun Overdrive)?But the scariest movie ever is DRESSED TO KILL.
ever thought of how many shrinks are actually looney tunes?
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#256022 - Fri Mar 18 2005 03:45 AM
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The Blair Witch Project isn't scary! It just made me feel sea sick.  Arachnaphobia creeped me out... I was terrified of spiders before I watched it and that film didn't make it any better!
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#256023 - Fri Mar 18 2005 06:42 PM
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I love to scream at scary movies!
My favorites are the Ring and The Sixth Sense. Signs is also up there.
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#256024 - Fri Mar 18 2005 11:36 PM
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I like horror, but only if it really scares me. I let myself get creeped out pretty easily. (Heck, I'm creeped out just reading this thread and THINKing of all these movies.) But I really like to be scared.
I thought The Ring was scary enough. I have no desire to see The Grudge, The Ring Two, or any other horror movie that is out now, or soon to be released.
I really like classic horror movies, from the 30's, 40's and 50's, and the movies where sci-fi and horror sort of blend into one another, but I don't really like them to be scared. I think there's some part of me that just likes to see how much things have changed, and enjoy simpler storylines and not so many complicated special effects. They're easier on my brain and my eyes.
I can't think of too many horror movies from the 70's and 80's that I liked at all. Stephen King is only a mediocre author in my opinion, or at least he seems to focus more on quantity than quality a lot of the time. I have read things by him that I really liked, but I think most of it is just fodder, really. Quick dollars. What's worse is that production companies seem to enjoy doing bad movies of already questionable Stephen King books just because they have his name on them. The Tommyknockers was a halfway decent book, but sucked on screen. The Langdoliers (or whatever) was such an aweful miniseries I have no desire to read the book. I liked Pet Cemetery and Christine. That's about it.
I suppose I also liked An American Wearwolf in London, and that's from the 80's, I think. I hated all the slasher movies. Not scary. Just bad. The most frightening part of the original Amityville Horror was the scene where he was walking around in his sagging, dirty tighty-whities. Ugh. The rest of the movie put me to sleep, but that bit did almost get a scream out of me.
Hmm. I liked the recent movie "House on Haunted Hill" but I'm probably a sucker when it comes to stuff like that. I honestly can't think of anything else.
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#256025 - Sat Mar 19 2005 11:07 AM
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I just remembered a movie from my college days that pretty much scared the heck out of my roommate and me. It was The Eyes of Laura Mars with Faye Dunaway and Tommy Lee Jones. We had gone to the drive-in theatre and only got about half-way through it when we got so scared we had to leave. We went back the next weekend with my boyfriend and had him sit between us with his arms around both of us.  It's probably not that scary to many, but back then, it really freaked us out.
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#256026 - Tue Mar 22 2005 07:15 PM
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Another movie that comes to mind that SHOULD have been decent was Cursed. The United States gets the PG-13 version and Canada gets the R rated version. I liked the movie and thought it was enjoyable and funny but not enough gore. It's a werewolf movie and only a few spots of blood is not acceptable. Well hopefully the dvd will be R or Unrated.
As for Slasher movies those are fun to watch. It's all pointless fun imo. Whether it's Jason killing people at a lake or Michael going trick or treating or Freddy giving you more than just nightmares. It's all just fun.
Another thing I hate is when people protest movies and try to ban them. A friend of mine who lives in Florida was telling me that the movie The Devil's Rejects(sequel to House of 1000 corpses) was being banned by a local church group in her town. It falls in the category of, "If you don't like it, Don't see it!" Why do these Church groups and other people who have no life try to ruin movies for the rest of us? They're just helping them make more money by talking so much stuff about it.
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#256027 - Tue Mar 22 2005 08:19 PM
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Eh, see, I don't think slasher or gorey movies are all that enjoyable. They usually lack any real plot, and are more about seeing how much blood they can throw around and still make it into a theater. Frankly, since I'm not afraid of blood, those movies don't scare me, and if a horror movie doesn't scare me, what's the point of watching it?
I far prefer a more psychological horror film. I don't need to see the blood to know that someone died. And it's the knowing someone died part that should frighten me.
But I will agree about banning movies. I'll just never understand nor support censorship of any kind, be it books, movies, whatever. It is a reactionary and short-sighted thing to do that is often self-defeating. It is not logical, nor is it wise.
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#256028 - Wed Mar 23 2005 02:01 AM
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There are only two horror movies that stopped me from viewing them in the detached manner I view most horror movies.
Evil Dead and the Exorcist. Both movies, well, freaked me out.
Freddy leaves me totally flat. The only other movies of that genre that even get me half interested in them are those that have the devil in them. The Omen series I found very watchable.
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#256029 - Wed Mar 23 2005 04:48 PM
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If you don't like Slasher movies because there is too much gore, I suggest watching the television versions. You can pay more attention to the plot that way instead of noticing all of the gore. Because some slasher movies really do have good plots. Like, Nightmare on Elm Street, for example.
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#256030 - Wed Mar 23 2005 06:34 PM
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I've only ever watched the TV versions of ANY slasher movie, myself, because I've never really wanted to waste the money on renting one. And it isn't that they have too much gore. Gore doesn't really bother me. It's just that there isn't ENOUGH plot, even when some of the gore is removed. If a movie has a good plot and scares me, it can have all the gore it wants. I didn't think Nightmare on Elm Street was frightening, and I didn't think it had a good plot. But that is just my opinion.
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#256031 - Wed Mar 23 2005 06:53 PM
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I've only ever watched the TV versions of ANY slasher movie, myself, because I've never really wanted to waste the money on renting one. And it isn't that they have too much gore. Gore doesn't really bother me. It's just that there isn't ENOUGH plot, even when some of the gore is removed. If a movie has a good plot and scares me, it can have all the gore it wants. I didn't think Nightmare on Elm Street was frightening, and I didn't think it had a good plot. But that is just my opinion.
Yeah I mean Slashers were just some killer in a mask killing people for his/her own personal reasons, revenge or whatever. I never bothered to look for a decent plot when it came to slashers because I knew there's no point which is why I look for gore in these movies. But honestly I'd rather be scared in a movie than have gore. I haven't been scared recently at all in any horror movie. Nightmare on Elm STreet had a good story but nothing incredible but still loved the series.
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