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#263280 - Sat Apr 02 2005 12:32 PM Queue lengths.
Nemesis Offline
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Just a quick question. If I, being one of the people who's quiz gets sent to the bottom of pile, put a quiz in for submission and the wxpected queue length was 0 - 10 days, and I check back a few days later and its 4 - 15 days, does that mean I'm expected to wait 10 or 15 days until my quiz is going to be seen by an editor?
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#263281 - Sat Apr 02 2005 01:45 PM Re: Queue lengths.
Bruyere Offline
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Though I appreciate your concerns, I'd advise you not to pay too much attention to that because appearances may be deceptive. Each section tends to move in a slightly different way. The wait time displayed may reflect different things.
Example: if someone's submitted a quiz on a subject that really requires the advice from one or two editors who are really well-versed in that area, then it might make the queue appear to be taking longer.

My suggestion is that, you do your very best beforehand. If your quiz is not proofread properly, and it's got lots of problems, if it is in a subject area that has too many submissions and has repetitive questions, all these will sloooooooow down the process for you and for everyone.

The queues also are a reflection of the staff's availability at times. It may also reflect the fact that we get more submissions during school holidays in various areas of the world and need more time to take care of these things.

Your best bet is to do your best so that we know your work is consistently good.
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#263282 - Sat Apr 02 2005 01:52 PM Re: Queue lengths.
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I do try, I never submit a quiz without looking at it first, I look at it at least an hour after I write it, I use a spellchecker and a grammer because of my dyslexia, I try to submit unusal quizes that havn't been done before, I even sometimes get my boyfriend to help me look over it.
I was just wondering if my quiz gets put to the bottom because of errors, everytime a new quiz comes along will it get placed on top of mine hence will I have to wait until the catagory is empty before my quiz gets seen and will my expected wait time increase after its been submitted.


Edited by Nemesis (Sat Apr 02 2005 01:53 PM)
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#263283 - Sat Apr 02 2005 10:11 PM Re: Queue lengths.
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I agree, queue length is not really anything to go by. I have just spent an hour editing five quizzes, none of which was anywhere near ready to go online. I'm exhausted and cranky, and not likely to even try editing any quiz that has so much as a typo in the title any more tonight.
On another night, when luck is in, I can go through five quizzes in 20 minutes, and still be ready to take on ten more. The higher quality the quiz submissions are, the quicker the whole thing goes, for everybody.
The position your own quiz has in the queue is partially based on how long it has been waiting, and partially based on the quality of your previous submissions. Also, if I know that your quiz had, for instance, only one very small change needed, I will keep my eye out for it upon resubmission, and take care of it the moment it appears. If there were multiple serious problems, I'll wait. Making sure your quizzes are the very best they can be before submission really does pay off.
Also, as Bruyere said, there may be behind-the-scenes issues. A quiz may need a speciality editor, or we may be discussing categorization. If your quiz really seems to be taking forever, you can go back into your edit screen and make sure you really did submit it. I have heard from authors very upset that their quizzes have been waiting just for ages, only to discover that they had not after all ever submitted them!

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#263284 - Sat Apr 02 2005 10:46 PM Re: Queue lengths.
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Yes, Agony's right. I'll get a rather indignant note about when are we finally going to check it, then see that it hasn't been resent!

Let's say this is the post office. Some people's quizzes lack the postal code, the street number, the name of the city and the stamp. They tend to clog up the works for us all, yet, we still get around to helping them figure this out.
Some letters are ready to go, only need a quick look.
Some letters need an additional thing to make them reach their destination.

Some of the letters posted need the person to roll up her or his sleeves and really figure out what went wrong.

So, the lesson is that if you've got most everything on your letter, it will make everything work smoother.
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#263285 - Wed Apr 06 2005 10:45 PM Re: Queue lengths.
Terry Offline
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The queue length generally represents how old the oldest untouched quizzes are in a queue. Depending on how the editors handle quizzes this number may or may not mean anything. The general idea is to indicate what categories likely have the shortest wait in.

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#263286 - Thu Apr 07 2005 04:56 AM Re: Queue lengths.
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Excellent analogy Bruyere!

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#263287 - Thu Apr 07 2005 07:41 AM Re: Queue lengths.
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I give up on the queue lengths. I submitted a quiz some while back. It still sits. But somebody will get to it one of these days, I'm sure. I hope so as I have another one ready to submit !
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#263288 - Fri Apr 08 2005 05:49 AM Re: Queue lengths.
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Well, I know that this postal worker is kind of busy at the moment with job and studies, and that there were an inordinate amount of unstamped letters or letters without any known address! That's the nature of the game after the Easter breaks around the world.
My other favorite analogy is the mechanic with the cars pulling up to the garage. As I have been doing the car quizzes around here for a few years, the analogy is good. So many car quizzes are full of time dependent material because someone is thrilled with the new model of their car, those babies take a major overhaul. And telling someone their whole engine needs an overhaul, instead of an oil change, is a thankless task but someone has to do it.
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#263289 - Sun Apr 10 2005 07:48 AM Re: Queue lengths.
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I have another comment about queues, that authors might want to keep in mind. In a long and busy queue, like Music, where there are several editors and lots of activity, it's important for your quiz subject and title to be distinctive.
Editors will, in general, try to stick with a quiz from start to finish. If I send a quiz back to the author with suggestions, I will keep my eye out for it in the queue, and do the follow up. If I see that another editor is already working with an author on a particular quiz, I'll usually leave it to him or her. This is where distinction in the title comes in.
If I see a quiz titled "Joe Popsinger: 'Big Hit Album'", I'll check to see if any editor has already started working with the author. I see that Bruyere has already written to the author, so I go on to another quiz. When I see that same title in the queue the next day, I don't bother checking it.
You see the problem, don't you? If there are four quizzes in the queue with essentially the same title, we may all assume that someone else is working on that one, and it may be a week before anyone actually looks at it. Please use a little originality in your title and introduction.
Another place for originality is in the choice of quiz subject. If I have just edited three quizzes on Joe Popsinger, I'm probably sick of the fellow, and am much more likely to choose a quiz titled "Songs Which All Mention Cabbages" as my next job. If everybody is writing a quiz about the same band, or the same album, chances are, you are all asking the same questions. I may let the first author ask a question about Joe Popsinger's middle name ("Bland"), but by the third time I've heard that question, I'm no longer allowing it. A quiz with a fresh approach, to a fresh subject, is much more likely to be looked at quickly, and accepted.

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