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#274822 - Thu Aug 18 2005 10:12 AM Need Help on the Following:
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Put this list of body armor in order from least protective to most protective. You will earn 1 point for each item in the correct spot.

Padded
Chain Mail
Leather
Tournament
Bar Mail
Quilted
Plate
Ring Mail


And also:

Change one letter in the name of a magazine about exotic places to find a magazine about places in the mind.

Lastly

Black + Green = What color?

Black + Blue + Green + Red = What color?

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#274823 - Thu Aug 18 2005 12:06 PM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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Change one letter in the name of a magazine about exotic places to find a magazine about places in the mind.




Does the “magazine about places in the mind” have to be a magazine that actually exists? If not, you could change one letter of National Geographic and make Notional Geographic.
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#274824 - Fri Aug 19 2005 08:25 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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As far as the colours go, I'm using watercolours at the moment, and mix black and green to do the shadows on hedges and trees, it just gives a black with a green tint.

Blue, green and red produce brown, with a slight blue bias as green has blue in it. Add black and you'll get a dark chocolate brown.
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#274825 - Fri Aug 19 2005 01:54 PM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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If the colors are colors of light, and black is the absense of light, then Black + green is green. And (while not technically correct, as it is actually cyan, green and magenta, but most people just call it blue, red and green) blue, red and green being the primary colors of light, black plus those three makes white.
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#274826 - Thu Aug 25 2005 10:38 PM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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Sorry - but as an engineer I first look for ways to avoid the question.

The first question has no answer without knowing the threat. Leather is better protection against insects and acid rain than chain mail.

The last question has no answer because:
a) Rules change for pigment or light.
b) Relative percentages of the constituants changes the result.
c) The results are all the same for a blind person in the dark.

Glad I could help!

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#274827 - Fri Aug 26 2005 06:38 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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Well, actually red, green and blue are primary colors from which all other colors are composed. The complementary (opposite) colors of light are cyan, magenta and yellow. White light is red, green and blue in equal proportions while black is the absence of light.
If you combine just red and green, for example, you get yellow; combine blue and green and its cyan; combine blue and red, its magenta (sort of a salmon color).
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#274828 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:47 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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You're right, of course, fjohn, I mis-spoke about the cyan and magenta. I admit it's been a long while since I took a physics course. Although, I will say that White is actually all the colors (ROYGBIV) combined, but it can be obtained by mixing certain sets of three colors, of which RGB is only the most common, but not the only, and each of these sets is called "primary colors". Anyway, I still think that light is the key to the last one there.

Black being the absence of light, if you take no light and add green light, you'll get green. And if you add no light plus red, green and blue light (provided they are of equal intensitites), you'll get white light.
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#274829 - Fri Aug 26 2005 12:46 PM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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I hadn't heard that arrangement, Lothruin (ROYGBIV). All you really need is RGB to get all flavors of light. All other colors are secondary.
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#274830 - Fri Aug 26 2005 02:32 PM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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White light it technically the presence of every color of the spectrum. But you only have to use any of the combinations of primary colors to achieve it. They combine to create all the colors of the spectrum, therefore creating white. From what I understand... And I have read that RGB is NOT the only such combination, just the most common; that there are other sets of specific wavelengths of color that can also make white light.
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#274831 - Fri Aug 26 2005 06:59 PM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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White light it technically the presence of every color of the spectrum. But you only have to use any of the combinations of primary colors to achieve it. They combine to create all the colors of the spectrum, therefore creating white.




This is all true. However, the other wavelengths of light that are used to create other colors are all compositions of the basic RGB. Name any color and it can be created by combination with the three basic colors.

For example, a shade of purple, brown, orange, violet, grape, pink or any other visible color is produced by combining any of the primary colors. No other color is possible without the primaries and no other color is a primary.

For artists the primaries are different because you are looking at reflected light, not transmitted light. I think that yellow is a primary in painting, but not in color photography that uses transmitted light for imaging.

Looking at sunlight through a prism is a good example of how transmitted light breaks down RGB (red is the longest visible wavelength while blue is the shortest).
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#274832 - Sat Aug 27 2005 11:57 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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What makes RGB the primary colors? It's not physics, it's physiology.

http://homepage.mac.com/dtrapp/physics.f/ColorVision.html

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#274833 - Sun Aug 28 2005 07:55 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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The human perception of light and color, as this web site addresses, gives the impression that colors are vaguely defined depending on the observer. I am slightly deficient in discerning shades of green but that doesn't alter the definition of the color green.
All light can be quantified by wavelength just as the rest of the spectrum of radiation is. Radio waves, x-rays, gamma rays, infrared, ultra-violet all have specific wavelengths and frequencies.
The color blue, for example, has a specific wavelength measured in nanometers. No other color has that wavelength.
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#274834 - Wed Aug 31 2005 10:06 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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"All light can be quantified by wavelength just as the rest of the spectrum of radiation is."

Have we gotten off topic or what?

When we see yellow, we usually don't know what we are really seeing. It could be light at the single wavelegth we defined as yellow. It could also be a mixture of light at the two wavelengths defined as red and green. These "yellows" are not identical. The first will not change when passed through a prism, the other will split into red and green. Our eyes can be tricked into seeing yellow.

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#274835 - Wed Aug 31 2005 10:20 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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Hopefully sicilianprncs1 will post with the correct answers to put us out of our misery.
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#274836 - Thu Sep 01 2005 08:45 PM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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I agree, Sue. Where is the princess who started all this?
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#274837 - Fri Sep 02 2005 08:33 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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I have just checked and she hasn't been to the site since the day she posted. She visited 1 hour and 43 minutes after posting and presumably since there wasn't the answers in full she couldn't be bothered to visit again nor let us know that she had the answerss, or perhaps that she no longer needed them.

It is very thoughtless of her, people have put themselves out to try to assist and it would appear that she didn't have the courtesy to let us know.
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#274838 - Wed Sep 14 2005 12:14 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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I know I'm a bit late, but I just found this thread. I thought I'd try to find the original source for the questions, but I don't think it's online.

I was wondering if the wording of the questions is actually correct as originally written. If not and it's more a trick question than a scientific one, black + green could be tea.

Also, and this could be a bit of a stretch, but black, blue, red and green could represent any TV screen, computer monitor etc. RGB lights, of course, being the colour units which make up the display, and black being the background.

Basically I agree it's horribly rude to ask a question and then not bother to respond to the responses, as such, even if the answers aren't what you hoped for...

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#274839 - Tue Oct 04 2005 04:16 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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Well, actually red, green and blue are primary colors from which all other colors are composed.




Maybe colours (apart from the spelling ) are different in the US, FJ, because when I went to school the primary colours were red, YELLOW and blue.
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#274840 - Tue Oct 04 2005 06:51 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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Red, green and blue are the primary colours when mixing light. Each pixel on your computer monitor comprises these three colours and when mixed in varying proportions they produce all the colours of the rainbow.

Pigments use the different three colours, cyan, magenta and yellow, to make all the others - referred to as CMY in the printing trade. A school we used red, blue and yellow paints, which approximate to CMY, to make other colours.

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#274841 - Thu Feb 23 2006 03:50 PM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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With the armor thing, here is my guess:

Leather
Padded
Quilted
Chain Mail/Ring Mail (not sure)
Tournament
Plate

I have no clue where Bar Mail goes
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#274842 - Fri Feb 24 2006 03:21 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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Dragonkin, could you check the date of the thread before answering, as you will see, this one was posted in August 2005 and you can see from the side panel that the person who posted it hasn't been back since - so not a lot of point in giving her a possible answer.

There are sometimes good reasons for ressurecting threads but not often. It is normally best to start a fresh thread unless the other thread is fairly recent, for instance reporting a problem in Feedback it is best to check to ensure the question hasn't already been asked and if it has then by all means add to the thread if you have similar problems. In this particular forum people normally want the answer to a question now, not six months later.
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#274843 - Sun Feb 26 2006 04:43 AM Re: Need Help on the Following:
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Thanks Dragonkin and sue943, you've made me think and read very carefully. Black and Green = What color. Therefore subtracting from both sides of the equation leaves blue + red = 0 , I guess the question is a purple patch.

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