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#277730 - Sun Sep 11 2005 02:53 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
Gatsby722 Offline
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Yippee! Testosterone comes in handy here and again. Also, the only reason "sturdy parade" is unknown is because I just made the phrase up a few hours ago .
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#277731 - Sun Sep 11 2005 03:13 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
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Quote:

I just made the phrase up a few hours ago




Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to use that phrase at every opportunity, and see if it will be accepted into the language!
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#277732 - Sun Sep 11 2005 03:46 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
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An impossible mission lol.
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#277733 - Sun Sep 11 2005 07:14 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
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Gats, have you explored the origin of the word 'quiz'? Have a look at this site , and you may be amazed. Without that one simple little word, this site would not exist...
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#277734 - Sun Sep 11 2005 04:07 PM Re: September Trivia Rounds
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Round 5 is closed --- results in a couple of hours or so.

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#277735 - Mon Sep 12 2005 01:20 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
Santana2002 Offline
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Posts: 8867
Loc: France
MONDAY'S ROUND - Round 12

Please give me:

1) The name of a county of Ireland with more than 5 letters in it's name
2) A country with a territorial claim on Antarctica
3) A historical building in Ghent, Belgium
4) A Scottish castle with 'loch' as part of it's name
5) A phrase of "Strine" and it's translation into regular English (Not just one word answers, please)

PM if you get stuck and have fun searching.
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#277736 - Mon Sep 12 2005 04:33 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
Polaris101 Offline
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Round 7 is closed. Results up soon.
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#277737 - Mon Sep 12 2005 05:48 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
Polaris101 Offline
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Round 7 results:- 10 players


Q1. A feature film which starred Greta Garbo and John Gilbert.

5 points: A Woman of Affairs (4), Flesh and the Devil (3), Queen Christina (3)

not mentioned: Love


Q2. A Funtrivia editor in the Movies category.

10 points: Logan24, rj211

5 points: linkan (3), Nannanut (3), spanishliz (2)

not mentioned: skunkee


Q3. An actor or actress depicted on one of the stamps in the US Postal Service's Legends of Hollywood series.

10 points: Edward G. Robinson

5 points: Humphrey Bogart (3), Henry Fonda (3), Alfred Hitchcock (3)

not mentioned: Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant, James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, Lucille Ball, James Cagney, John Wayne


Q4. A feature film which has the word 'movie' in its title.

10 points: Silent Movie, Movie Crazy, Scary Movie 2, The Kentucky Fried Movie, The Pirate Movie, Santa Claus, The Movie, Not Another Teen Movie

5 points: The Tigger Movie (3)

not mentioned: Cheech & Chong's Next Movie, The Muppet Movie, Twilight Zone: The Movie, Doug's 1st Movie, Piglet's Big Movie, many others


Q5. A movie actor/actress with family member(s) who were/are also actors.

10 points: everyone James Mitchum, Corin Redgrave, Judy Garland, Ryan O'Neal, Emilio Estevez, Brandon Lee, Leo Gorcey, Shirley MacLaine, Angelina Jolie, Estelle Reiner

not mentioned: Dennis & Randy Quaid, Martha Plimpton, Timothy Hutton, Hayley, Juliet & John Mills, Natasha & Joely Richardson, Vanessa & Lynn Redgrave, Sean Astin, Stacy & James Keach, Elizabeth & Robert Montgomery, Julia & Eric Roberts, Drew Barrymore, Kate Hudson, Carrie Fisher, Colin Hanks, Edward Albert, many others


SCORES

40 points - Kuu, gemini

35 points - littlewoman, ozzz, gatsby, Jim, Elf, Santana
30 points - ren, cinnam0n


Congratulations to our winners Kuu & gemini
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#277738 - Mon Sep 12 2005 06:26 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
LittleWoman2 Offline
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Round 9 will be open for several more hours ... only seven players have submitted answers so far. Any others want to slip your answers in?

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#277739 - Mon Sep 12 2005 01:40 PM Re: September Trivia Rounds
JaneMarple Offline
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Tuesday 13th September (posting early, but still closing on Thursday!)
1. A book by Charles Dickens
2. A gem stone
3. Name me one of the children in “The Sound of Music” (there was seven – just the characters name)
4. A type of vegtable
5. A Hollywood star, past or present, with C as the first letter of their surname
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#277740 - Mon Sep 12 2005 07:19 PM Re: September Trivia Rounds
cinnam0n Offline
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Round 10 will be open about 12 more hours - late entries are welcome!

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#277741 - Tue Sep 13 2005 08:20 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
cinnam0n Offline
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Posts: 6750
Loc: Pennsylvania USA
Round 10 Results
8 participants!

1. Vessels who fought in the Battle of Lake Erie
10 points - USS Caledonia, USS Trippe, USS Scorpion, USS Porcupine, USS Niagra, HMS Queen Charlotte
5 points - USS Somers(2)
There were 15 total ships that participated, so there were several more not mentioned.

2. Musicians that performed before the NFL Season Opener
10 points - Kenye West, Maroon 5, Rolling Stones
5 points - Green Day (3), Santana (2)
Rihanna and Trisha Yearwood weren't mentioned.

3. Movies with a ghost as the main character
10 points - Ghost Dad, Blithe Spirit, Topper, Ghost, Blackbeard's Ghost
5 points - Casper (3)

4. Swanson TV Dinners
10 points - Angus Beef Meatloaf, Salisbury Steak, Mexican Style Fiesta, Breaded Fish Fillet, Veal Parmigiana, Turkey Medallions
5 points - Mesquite Grilled Chicken (2)
Tons more!

5. Things you associate with Jamestown -
10 points - Algonquin Indians, Jamestown Church Tower, Chickahominy River, tobacco, Powhatan, House of Burgesses, Pocahontas, Jimsonweed
Good job, everybody!

Results -

50 points - Ballykissangel
45 points - gatsby722, Santana2002, littlewoman2, gemini19
40 points - ren33
35 points - ozzz2002, Elftwinkle

Thanks to everyone for playing! Congrats, Ballykissangel!

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#277742 - Tue Sep 13 2005 08:52 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
Ballykissangel Offline
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Loc: Halifax Nova Scotia Canada    
Yay. I finally made it to the top of the list! It's made my day.

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#277743 - Tue Sep 13 2005 12:47 PM Re: September Trivia Rounds
LittleWoman2 Offline
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Registered: Wed Aug 11 2004
Posts: 5659
Loc: Alabama USA
Round 9 Results:

Eight players this time.


Question 1: Bob Denver passed away earlier this week. Name a TV show in which he starred as a regular character.

10 points: The Good Guys, Far Out Space Nuts, The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

5 points: Gilligan’s Island (2), Dusty’s Trail (2)

Not accepted: Invisible Woman, which was a TV movie. I asked for a TV show.

Not mentioned: Twilight Theater


Question 2: Russian novelist Leo Tolstoy was born on September 9, 1828. Name one of his novels or novellas.

10 points: The Kruetzer Sonata, Boyhood, Anna Karenina

5 points: War and Peace (2), Voskresenia (Resurrection) (2)

Not accepted: The Living Corpse, which is a play.

Not mentioned: Childhood, Father Sergius, The Death of Ivan Illych, and others


Question 3: Queen Victoria is the longest-reigning monarch in Great Britain's history. Name one of her nine children.

10 points: Princess Beatrice, Prince Albert Edward (later Edward VII), Prince Arthur, Princess Louise, Prince Leopold

5 points: Princess Alice (3)

Not mentioned: Princess Victoria, Princess Helena, Prince Alfred


Question 4: Name a famous writer, actor, or musician born in the state of Alabama.

10 points: Jim Nabors, Ruben Studdard, Harper Lee, Rick Bragg

5 points: Helen Keller (2), Fannie Flagg (2)

Not mentioned: Nat King Cole, Courteney Cox, Lionel Richie, Hank Williams Sr., Tobias Wolff, Tallulah Bankhead, Wayne Rogers, Kate Jackson, and others


Question 5: The historic Springer Opera House in Columbus, Georgia, is the official state theatre of Georgia. Name one of the seven plays/musicals in the theatre's 2005-2006 season.

10 points: The Underpants, Guys and Dolls

5 points: Romeo and Juliet (2), Smokey Joe’s Café (2), Proof (2)

Not mentioned: The Bible: The Complete Word of God (Abridged) and A Closer Walk With Patsy Cline

SCORES:

50 points:
Gatsby722


40 points:
Ren33


35 points:
Ozzz2002
Cinnam0n


30 points:
Santana2002
Gemini19


25 points:
ElfTwinkle
Kuu



Congratulations to Gatsby, with a perfect score! Thanks for playing, everyone.

Edited to add Gemini's score. Sorry about leaving you out! I'm usually not in such a hurry, but I compiled these scores while I was at work yesterday.


Edited by littlewoman2 (Wed Sep 14 2005 05:46 AM)

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#277744 - Tue Sep 13 2005 02:11 PM Re: September Trivia Rounds
gemini19 Offline
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Registered: Tue Feb 15 2005
Posts: 2399
Loc: Toronto Ontario Canada      
My turn to get "overlooked"... Lol, hope that wasn't retribution for forgetting Exit and Gatsby's scores last week.
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#277745 - Wed Sep 14 2005 02:58 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
Kuu Offline
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Registered: Mon Jun 03 2002
Posts: 1037
Loc: Hobart Tasmania Australia     
ROUND 14 Questions


1) The 'Singing Senators' is a group of US Republican Senators who sang as a barbershop quartet. Name one of them.

2) A current monarch of a non-European country

3) A mineral featured on the Moh's Hardness Scale

4) In M. Night Shyamalan movie "The Village" and actress/actor who played a character with the surname Walker

5) Any species of bird of paradise (the birds not the flowers). If possible give both common and scientific name to avoid confusion.

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#277746 - Wed Sep 14 2005 05:37 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
ren33 Offline
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Loc: Kowloon Tong  Hong Kong      
Round 15 Questions
1 This month in 1981, Pablo Picasso's wonderful anti war mural was received in Guernica, Spain. Name another painting by Picasso that is in a Spanish museum.
2 On September 15th, 1954, Sir Thomas Beecham conducted his first Promenade Concert. Name an artist who has drawn or painted his portrait.
3 The 15th of September is Columbus day. Name another famous son or daughter of Genoa.
4 Napoleon Bonaparte won the Battle of Borodino in September 1812. Name another of his victorious battles.
5. Fay Wray was born on 15th September,1907.
Name a full length film in which she starred.
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#277747 - Wed Sep 14 2005 07:11 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
Mugaboo Offline
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Registered: Fri Aug 13 2004
Posts: 1033
Loc: Scotland UK
Results Round 6

1.
Find me any team that plays in the British Water Polo league.
For 10 points: Otter; Lancaster City; Hammersmith Penguin; Rotherham Metro (1st Division); Invicta; Portobello (in 2nd Division)
For 5 points: (None)

2. Tell me any difference between a Black Rhino and a White Rhino.
For 10 points: Different colors; Black rhinos (1.5m) are smaller than white (1.8m)
For 5 points:White's head longer [2]; Whites stay in small family groups, Blacks tend to be solitary [2]
Not mentioned include:Whites graze on grass, Black browse on shrubs; Whites live in the open plain, blacks in closed savannah; whites have wide mouth, black prehensile; White high crowned molars, Black low-crowned molars; When running white holds head near ground, black holds head high; White has large hump behind head; White babies walk infront of mother, black behind; The white's hearing is less acute than black; White better eyesight; White tend to mature later; White more docile.

3. Give any shipwreck that can be found off Cape Point, South Africa.
For 10 points: The Nolluth; SAS Pietermaritzburg (Formally HMS Pelorus)
For 5 points: Thomas T Tucker [3]
Not allowed: Duikersklip - name of the location of one of the wrecks
Not mentioned include: The Boss 400; The Flying Dutchman (Ghost Ship); The Lusitania; The Maori; The Oakburn; The Phyllisia; The Katzmary; The Romelia; The Astor; The Antipolis; The Schuilenberg; The SS South African Seafarer; The RMS Athens; The Clan Stuart; The Brunswick; The Beta; Katsu Maru; The Tania; SAS Transvaal, SAS Good Hope, Rockeater, Princess Elizabeth; The Oratava (the last 5 were sunk to make a reef).


4. Name one of the day signs (Tonalli) of the Aztec Calender.
For 10 points: Alt; Cuauhtli; Océlot; Ollin
For 5 points: Tochtli [2]
Not mentioned: find more at http://www.azteccalendar.com/introduction.html

5. Select anyone mentioned in the Epistle of Jude.
For 10 points: Adam; Balaam; Cain; the Holy Ghost; Jude; Michael the archangel
For 5 points: (None)

Scores:

45
Santana2002; Gatsby722
40 Ren33; ozzz2002; ElfTwinkle
35 Cinnam0n

Well done to the two winners.

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#277748 - Wed Sep 14 2005 08:53 PM Re: September Trivia Rounds
ElfTwinkle Offline
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Registered: Wed Jul 10 2002
Posts: 14929
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September Trivia Rounds: Round 5/August 5th
RESULTS
: 7 players participated


Give me the:

QUESTION 1
Quote:

Monty Hall is best know as the host of the game show Let's make A Deal --- He has also made several guest star appearances on tv series/shows -- name a tv series/show on which Monty Hall has appeared as a guest star (Note: Other game shows, the tv movie and the musical comedy which appeared in theaters will NOT be accepted):




10 points: The Love Boat, Love American Style

5 points: That 70's Show (2), The Wonder Years (2)

5 points: Wait Till Your Father Get's Home --- I debated this answer and finally decided to give it 5 points --- (The definition of guest star (from information.com and other sites) is: "A Guest Star, relating to a Television Series, is an actor who appears on one or several episodes playing a character or themselves." --- As noted with the answer by the person who sent in this answer, this was a "voice only" appearance and Monty Hall did not actually appear on the show as a character or himself.

Not Mentioned: The Odd Couple, The Flip Wilson Show, The Dean Martin Show, Love and War, The Nanny



QUESTION 2
Quote:

Name of a published work written by Bill Bisset




10 points: Dragon fly, What Poetiks, B leev abul char ak trs, Sa n th monkey

5 points: Peter Among The Towing Boxes (2)

Not Accepted: Name Is A Label --- I had to look up several of the answers as they weren't on the original list that I had --- I found the other 3, but I have found no mention of this one anywhere --- If the person who sent in this answer can provide me with a website to verify this answer I'll gladly add the applicable points to their score

Not Mentioned: Lots --- see here or here


QUESTION 3
Quote:

Title of a song by Gordon Lightfoot which has a girl's name in it




10 points: Maria Christine, Betty Called Me In, Oh Linda, Daylight Katy, The Montain And The Marian

5 points: Cotton Jenny(2)

Not Mentioned: Alberta Bound, Daisy Doo, May I, On Susan's Floor, Rosanna, Sleep Little Jane, Summer Side Of Life, Sweet Guinevere (Yes, I do know girl's named Alberta and Summer), and possibly more.



QUESTION 4
Quote:

The NFL (National Football League) football 2004-05 regular season starts this Thursday --- what is one of the NFL teams that plays in the South division of either conference (ie AFC South or NFC South)




10 points: New Orlean's Saints, Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars

5 points: Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2), Indianapolis Colts(2)

Not mentioned: Houston Texans, Tennessee Titans, Atlanta Falcons


QUESTION 5
Quote:

The name of a place in Canada that has a buffalo/bison as a roadside attraction (There are at least 8)





10 points: Winnipeg, Manitoba ; Wainwright, Alberta; Edmonton, Alberta; Melville, Saskatchewan; Borden, Saskatchewan

5 points: Girvin, Saskatchewan (2

Not Mentioned: Earlton, Ontario; Swift Current, Saskatchewan; Aylesbury, Saskatchewan; St. Louis, Saskatchewan

These are the 9 that I am aware of --- there may be others as well.


RESULTS

cinnam0n: 45 points
Mugaboo: 45 points
Santana2002: 45 points

gemini19: 35 points
ozzz2002: 35 points

gatsby722: 30 points
ren33: 30 points


Congratulations to cinnam0n, Mugaboo and Santana who each collect a point for this round.


Thanks for playing everyone!


Edited by ElfTwinkle (Wed Sep 14 2005 08:55 PM)

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#277749 - Thu Sep 15 2005 12:15 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
Santana2002 Offline
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Registered: Mon Apr 14 2003
Posts: 8867
Loc: France
ROUND 12 CLOSED

Results shortly.
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#277750 - Thu Sep 15 2005 12:20 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
Santana2002 Offline
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Registered: Mon Apr 14 2003
Posts: 8867
Loc: France
ROUND 12 RESULTS

1) The name of a county of Ireland with more than 5 letters in it's name

10 Points: Waterford, Carlow, Offaly, Wexford, Leitrim, Tipperary

Not Mentioned: Dublin, Kildare, Wicklow, Galway, Donegal, Longford plus many others


2) A country with a territorial claim on Antarctica

10 Points: Argentina
5 Points: Australia (2), Chile (3)

3) A historical building in Ghent, Belgium

10 Points: Patershol, The Hospice “Children Alijns”, The Meat Hall
5 Points: Castle of the Counts (3)

4) A Scottish castle with 'loch' as part of it's name


10 Points: Lochhouse Tower, Kinloch Castle
5 Points: Inverlochy Castle (2), Lochleven Castle (2)

5) A phrase of "Strine" and it's translation into regular English (Not just one word answers, please)

10 Points: All answers:

Yerron yerrone : You are on your own
Wee jar stono: We Just don’t know
Yuma sketcher rare cut: You must get your hair cut
Soym Sawnn: Saw him go in
Sleece tiger do: It’s the least I could do
He nair fradder pen e Toohey snime: He never had a penny to his name

THE SCORES

45 Points: ElfTwinkle
40 Points: Exit10, Ballykissangel, Ren, ozzz
35 Points: Gatsby


Thank you all for playing and congratulations to this week’s winner, ElfTwinkle
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#277751 - Thu Sep 15 2005 08:28 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
JaneMarple Offline
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Registered: Fri Jan 30 2004
Posts: 14486
Loc: North West of England
I'll be closing in about a hour and a half
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#277752 - Thu Sep 15 2005 11:51 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
JaneMarple Offline
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Posts: 14486
Loc: North West of England
Round 13 - closed!
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#277753 - Thu Sep 15 2005 11:56 AM Re: September Trivia Rounds
JaneMarple Offline
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Registered: Fri Jan 30 2004
Posts: 14486
Loc: North West of England
1. A book by Charles Dickens
For ten points:
The Life of Our Lord, Master Humphrey's Clock, A Christmas Carol, The Cricket on the Hearth, Great Expectations, Little Dorrit, Pickwick Papers,
For five points:
Bleak House (2), 'A Tale Of Two Cities' (2),
Not mentioned:
Oliver Twist, David Copperfield, Nicholas Nickleby, and more!

2. A gem stone
For ten points:
Aventurine, Emerald, Black Opal, Citrine, Opal, Jet, Amethyst, Jasper, Peridot,
For five points:
Tanzanite (2),
Not mentioned:
Jade, Turquiose, Ruby and more

3. Name me one of the children in “The Sound of Music” (there was seven – just the characters name1)
For ten points:
Gretl, Kurt,
For five points:
Brigitta (3), Friedrich (2) Leisl (2), Louisa (2),
Not mentioned:
Matha (second youngest I think!)

4. A type of vegtable
For ten points:
Mustard greens, Canton White Pod Yard Long Bean, Shallot, Choy sum (Chinese vegetable), Turnip, Broccoli, Yellow Crookneck Squash
For five points:
Parsnip (2), Egg plant/Aubergine (2),
Not mentioned:
Carrots, Potatos, Peas and more

5. A Hollywood star, past or present, with C as the first letter of their surname
For ten points:
1. Joseph Cotton, Claudette Colbert, Sean Connery, Cyd Charisse, Kevin Costner, John Candy, Donald Crisp, Craig Charles

For five points:
James Cagney (3)
Not mentioned:
George Clooney and there must be more!




COMPETITORS - 11!
Exit - 50
Ren – 50

Gatsby - 45
Cinnam0n – 40
ElfTwinkle – 40
Little Woman – 40

Ballykissangel – 35
Flynn - 35
Gemini – 35
Mugaboo – 35
Ozzz – 35

Well done Exit and Ren
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#277754 - Thu Sep 15 2005 09:18 PM Re: September Trivia Rounds
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Registered: Tue Feb 15 2005
Posts: 2399
Loc: Toronto Ontario Canada      
ROUND 16 - Friday, September 16th

TV Families

Gats got me thinking a couple of days ago about the amount of TV I watch and all the TV trivia I probably know because of this, ahem, addiction... so I figured I'd make you guys foray into TV land for this weeks list. If you watch a lot of TV, this should be a breeze... If you don't, then have fun exploring TV land.


1. Give me the name of a member of the HUXTABLE family from "The Cosby Show".

2. Give me the name of a member of the FISHER family from the show "Six Feet Under".

3. Give me the name of a member of the GRIFFIN family from the show "The Family Guy".

4. Give me the name of a member of the BARONE family from the show "Everybody Loves Raymond".

5. Give me the name of a member of the CAMDEN family from the show "7th Heaven".



Alrighty, like I said, have fun searching, and good luck with the results. I'm here if you run into any snags.
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