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#279044 - Sat Sep 17 2005 05:45 PM Lost! Season 2!
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September 21st is the second season premier of "Lost", and it promises to be just as good, if not better, than the first season. Only five more days left!

This thread is to discuss the show, but please "No Spoilers".
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#279045 - Mon Sep 19 2005 12:12 AM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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Well looking forward to it....though I will have to wait a few days after each show to see the episode as I will have to wait until the download from a friend in the States. If I waited for the UK to show it...it would probably be next year.
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#279046 - Mon Sep 19 2005 02:00 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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"Lost" won an Emmy! For best drama series, no less. I wasn't really expecting them to win since, hello, freshman drama? But I was pleasantly surprised! Anyway, I am *SO* excited about season 2 it is just ridiculous. I think I need to make myself not read any spoilers on the internet like I did over the summer because I now know some major plot points.(Or maybe they just can't keep a secret...) I think I can hang in there for another, oh, 52 hours? IF I don't die of anticipation first.
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#279047 - Mon Sep 19 2005 03:14 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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SillyLilly,

I, too, have been reading so-called "spoilers", and here's my advice:

Don't believe anything you read until you see it for yourself on Wednesday.

I went to several "Lost" chatboards, and the so-called "spoilers" are totally asinine. There may be one true spoiler out of ten, but the rest don't believe.

Only 48 more hours left before "Lost" premiers!
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#279048 - Wed Sep 21 2005 08:48 AM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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I have been staying away from all the boards and sites that might proffer these spoilers - I want to find out as it happens instead of before! It's the one time I can honestly say that I want to be surprised by the new events about to unfold. Seeing Sawyer sitting on the beach reading his letter (in the ads) piqued my interest in seeing how he ends up back on the island...

It's nice to know that just as some shows are ending (i.e. Big Brother, Rockstar) just in time for other proven shows to return - (Lost, Houswives, Nip/Tuck, Survivor, Amazing Race). I can't remember when I've been more excited to watch TV!!
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#279049 - Wed Sep 21 2005 07:32 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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That was a pretty good episode, and I totally cried. (But don't read too much into that because I cry on everything.) I'm not going to give anything away although I will say I did forsee (sp?) a major plot point. I'd also like to say my periodical worry came true and someone. called. me. while Lost was on. I answered the phone as follows: "I know you're not calling me during Lost!" Luckily, it was the commericial break but alas, when the show continued she completely lost me (ha! no pun intended) and eventually hung up in frustration. What? I called her back. OK, I didn't but she'll get over it.
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#279050 - Wed Sep 21 2005 08:26 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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The episode was awesome, but the 'Destination Lost' thing beforehand was a bit annoying. We've waited months to see the new episode, and then they make us wait through an hour of the stuff we already know...
A lot of good shows are beginning and restarting; I agree.
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#279051 - Thu Sep 22 2005 07:11 AM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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I needed the thing beforehand to remember what happened last season. Plus, I was watching with a friend who hadn't seen the first season, so it was easier than trying to bring her up to speed myself.

By the way, if you want to see a page of the script for a future episode, go to http://www.oceanicflight815.com/

Click on the barcode at the bottom and type in "theislandiswaiting" (without quotations)
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#279052 - Thu Sep 22 2005 10:37 AM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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I thought the premiere was really good. I was afraid that the show wouldn't be as intriguing as the first season, but from the beginning I was intrigued. I only hope that they will explain (eventually) how all this occurred. There is obviously some supernatural element involved.

Here's my crazy theory. I think that this is all a dream in Jacks mind. He's probably thinking all of this while still on the plane. There are probably some true elements, like him taking his dead father back. Maybe each of the characters on the Island represents a part of him he whishes he was, while the character he is on the island is everything he hates about himself (fear of a leadership position, serious to the point of boredom [my opinion], a lack of faith in anything that science can't explain Locke is the man who is compenmtant in everything. Charlie is the rock star that every male at one time or another wanted to be. The beauty is that it might show what he wishes he was, but it also shows the flaws in each of his fantasies (like Charlie's cocaine addiction). In the series finale, all of this will culminate and the last moment of the show will be of him waking up from his dream just as the plane lands in LA.

If this idea seems disjointed and incoherent, I apologize. I only came up with it today and I must do a further analysis of the characters to see if it has any validity.
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#279053 - Thu Sep 22 2005 05:48 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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Here's my crazy theory. I think that this is all a dream in Jacks mind. He's probably thinking all of this while still on the plane. There are probably some true elements, like him taking his dead father back.




Abrams and Lindeloff promised the people watching "Lost" that the survivors are not "dead, in purgatory, in a coma, or dreaming." I have to believe this...if nothing else.

Now...on to last night's episode! The episode just blew me a way! It about blew my season finale idea way out of the water...I now have no idea what to think!

In the season finale, we saw that Claire remembered scratching Rousseau while in the jungle. I came to the conclusion that Ethan was with Rousseau, because it was Ethan who kidnapped Claire. But last night's episode makes me wonder if Ethan was really with Rousseau. I remember (today) Rousseau saying she killed her entire crew; so if she killed her crew, then Ethan wasn't with her. Is it possible he was in cahoots with Desmond? Could it be that Claire was held prisoner down in the hatch the week she was missing?

I have to wonder why no one believed Shannon that she saw Walt in the middle of the jungle. They think she's hallucinating. I could see them saying that if Shannon said she saw Boone in the jungle. Grant it, the survivors know that Walt was his father, Sawyer, and Jin on a raft in the ocean; but considering that this island is not an ordinary island, I would have believed her. Did anyone notice that the Walt" in the jungle was not wearing the same clothes that Walt was wearing when he was taken by the "Others" in the season finale? Did you see the water coming out of his mouth while he was standing in the middle of the jungle?

Jack's attitude toward Locke better stop...and quick. Last night the way Jack spoke to Locke, when the door to the hatch was removed and they peered down, was horrible. Locke should have said "I don't know who you think you're talking to, but just for the record, I'm the real leader here, I just let you THINK you are."

Desmond...in Jack's flashbacks he was running in a stadium and hurt his ankle. The person who helped him was a man who said he never finished being a doctor, who called him "brother" like he's Hulk Hogan, and who said that he will see Jack in another life. We can see by Jack's age that Desmond has not been in the hatch for 16 years, but how and when did he get there? Is Desmond with the "Others" or was he and Ethan in on it together? Or were Desmond and Ethan part of Rousseau's crew? Did Desmond put the "quarantine" on the hatch door? Are Desmond and the Others humanoids?

I wish they would have put "Lost" on last night for two hours instead of one!
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#279054 - Thu Sep 22 2005 07:47 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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Did you see the water coming out of his mouth while he was standing in the middle of the jungle?





No, but I'm really glad I didn't because I probably would've started crying from all the different kinds of creepiness that is. Again, with the crying.


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who called him "brother" like he's Hulk Hogan




Good Lord, that is the funniest thing I've heard all day. Totally cracked up. Hulk Hogan...

My dad thinks they're dead, especially after Desmond said "See ya in another life." Which brings up the point that I should NEVER watch anything with my dad. EVER. 'Cause he always thinks out loud about stuff like that... and he's usually right. I just hope he's not in this case because I would feel extremely jipped (SP?!) BTW, there was not nearly enough Charlie and Claire in this episode, I mean, Claire could use another back story.

Now I'm not what you would call a "Kate-hater" but she does tend to annoy me. That being said, I totally felt for her in this episode. Very good acting, Evie!

All I can say about the conclusion to this series is that it had better blow. my. mind. That's all I ask.


Edited by SillyLily (Thu Sep 22 2005 07:51 PM)
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#279055 - Thu Sep 22 2005 10:36 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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I remember (today) Rousseau saying she killed her entire crew; so if she killed her crew, then Ethan wasn't with her. Is it possible he was in cahoots with Desmond?




Do you guys remember Desmond injecting himself with something at the beginning of the episode? Steroids maybe or some other type of super strength serum? Do you guys remember Ethan's super-human strength when fighting Charlie and Jack during season one? Hmmmmmm.... interesting. The "in cahoots" thing makes sense, I think.

I'm guessing Walt probably psychically projected his image to Shannon in the jungle... I mean, we know he's "special" in that way, so maybe in his panicked state after being kidnapped, he mentally reached out the last person he had contact with on the island... Shannon (when he gave her the dog.)... of all people he could've picked though, why Shannon, what possible help could this chick provide?

The people probably didn't believe Shannon because, like Sayid said, she hadn't slept or eaten in a long time... but, again, come on... they're on "crazy, mystery island" for crying out loud, where nothing is as it seems and anything is possible.

Soooo, Hurley was in the psyche ward and not working or volunteering there... I wonder what that's about, and if he was in the psyche ward because of a "mental breakdown" (or whatver) I would definetly, definetly say he's handling plane crashes, dead bodies, monsters, homocidal maniac Ethan, tropical rainforest polar bears, crazy french ladies with guns, giant ships with skeletons and dynamite, exploding Arzt, and mysterious shaft with cursed numbers on it very, very well.

And I totally agree about Jack's attitude toward Locke... for all of season one Jack was trying to shed the leadership role that everyone bestowed upon him and all of a sudden he's "ordering" Locke around like there's some sort of chain of command that has to be followed... I totally admired Locke for his "insubordination"... and Kate for at least backing up Locke.

I can't believe they left the "raft" people hanging until next episode... I wanna know what happened to Sawyer! Where's Wednesday when you want it?
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#279056 - Fri Sep 23 2005 06:39 AM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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Interesting posts all of them, very interesting.

I did not watch "Lost" during its first season, but have watched the first season on DVD, and have a few comments/questions about this new second season.

I still cannot get out of my head that the "island" will turn out to be a cross between "The Island of Dr. Moreau" and a government experiment gone totally wrong. What I think the creators of 'Lost" need to do is to show us, the viewers, an entire episode totally devoted to the island...so that we can learn a few things about where Jack, Locke, Sawyer, Kate, Sayid etc.are and what if anything may come in the future. I think we need to know information about the island itself, since we have been told on the DVD by the creators, directors and producers that the island is a character unto itself.

I think that when the time comes for everyone on the island including Rousseau to finally meet the "Others", everyone will be surprised that it will be Jin, that will get them out of their impending situation...yes, Jin. I think every has underestimated him, because (according to the show), he cannot speak English. However, Jin, was a professional hit man for his father-in-law, and in his and Sun's back takes, they have showed him killing people with his bare hands, which could and just may prove very useful when the time comes for a confrontation with the Others.

What if Rousseau "thought" she killed her entire crew? What if Ethan and Desmond didn't die and found a place to hide from her? Maybe, Ethan was part of the Others, but on the outer fringes, like an acolyte? And heard the Others discussing taking the child...it is possible that Ethan (not being a complete Other) would not really know which child they were referring to and kidnapped Claire because he knew she was pregnant and *thought* that was the child the Others were referring to?

One thing that I think is totally unacceptable is that they have shown computers, running water, electricity etc, at the bottom of the hatch. To me, this does not make any sense whatsoever. It is an island supposedly in the middle of nowhere!

I am tending to go along with Locke's thought process that all of them have been brought to the island for a reason, however, exactly what that reason is still, thanks to the creators, remains to be seen. I tend to think that Hurly is a much more important character than anyone really thinks...it was he after all that played the very numbers that were found on the hatch.

That is my take on "Lost"...however the only thing each episode seems to do, is make everyone ask more questions...



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#279057 - Fri Sep 23 2005 09:08 AM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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I still cannot get out of my head that the "island" will turn out to be a cross between "The Island of Dr. Moreau" and a government experiment gone totally wrong.




Lol, JTJ, that has been my theory all along as well. I figured it's because I watched too much X-Files growing up, but if the writers have said the characters are not dead, or dreaming, or in a coma, then that doesn't leave very many options... it's either a "twilight zone" type of parallel universe they've wandered into, a "fantasy island" type of deal that they involuntarily walked into, or it's a governement conspiracy of some sort... possibly the island is some sort of military installation testing out new "equipment" to use in wars and such... i.e. the "smokey, invisible" monster/security system... I mean, after seeing that stuff, I doubt the feds would just let everyone walk away with said "knowledge" of said "island"... ahhh, the mysteries of LOST... you know a show is good when it gets so many people talking and asking questions about it.

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I tend to think that Hurly is a much more important character than anyone really thinks...it was he after all that played the very numbers that were found on the hatch.




I totally agree with that too... at first Hurley was simply representing the "Everyman" on the island, providing a little comic relief here, helping out with something there, but now he seems to be connected to everything on the island more so than anyone else there. If you look at everyone on the island like a math equation, and everyone is basically a digit in this equation, then Hurley probably falls in there as the equal sign and/or possibly the answer. There are huge question marks hanging over Hurley's head now and I'm finding that I'm paying a whole lot more attention to this guy.





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#279058 - Fri Sep 23 2005 11:01 AM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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I mean, after seeing that stuff, I doubt the feds would just let everyone walk away with said "knowledge" of said "island"... ahhh, the mysteries of LOST




Exactly! And that would explain why the guy Hurly met at er um nutward, was there and babbling the numbers (maybe, just maybe he escaped the island and the government couldn't just let him wander about with knowing all he knew about the island, so they put him there out of contact or so that thought with anyone) that Hurly played on the lottery...maybe the numbers are some secret code that opens and closes things on the island?

Notice how it goes back to Hurly...



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#279059 - Fri Sep 23 2005 11:13 AM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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I found this pretty interesting, in Michael Ausiello's column on TVGuide.com, which usually has pretty reliable info:

Question: Lost scoops please? — Trish

Ausiello: Exec producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse dropped what I thought was a pretty major spoiler in Sunday's New York Times. An article on Lost's second season ended with the duo ruling out three popular endgame theories: The castaways will not learn that they are part of some dastardly experiment, discover that they are in purgatory or wake up from a bad dream. "These guys get off the island," Cuse said. But then, in unison, they both added: "If it's an island." Hmmm…


**Removed the "Warning: Spoilers" thing, as after reading it, it is not a real spoiler**

**Also, please remember there are to be NO SPOILERS in this thread. We got lucky with this post. Lisa (DakotaNorth)


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#279060 - Fri Sep 23 2005 04:13 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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>>>>Lost's second season ended with the duo ruling out three popular endgame theories: The castaways will not learn that they are part of some dastardly experiment,

But does that mean they can't find that out in season three? Hmmmm. Do do do do do do do do *to the theme of twilight zone*

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#279061 - Sun Sep 25 2005 07:13 AM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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A few things (at random)

The "Raft People" (Sawyer, Jin, Michael, and Walt) were 15 miles out to sea (The number 15 is one of Hurley's numbers). What would have happened if they had went 16, 23, or 42 miles out to sea? Would something more terrible have happened?

Desmond was in the quarantined hatch...if he is one of the "Others", could he have projected himself to Jack at the stadium?

Hurley's numbers...it was said in this thread that maybe those numbers open and close things on the island...could they possibly represent important years for the island?

The hatch...it's made of something extremely strong (only dynamite was able to take the door off), I mean Locke and Boone couldn't break it with that thing they used to smash the glass. Where did the material for the hatch come from? Is it of "this world"? Or is it possible that the island created it?

Walt...I don't think he projected himself to Shannon...if he did do that, then why didn't he make himself yell for help? Instead, the Walt Shannon saw was only able to whisper...and he sounded like the whispering that Sayid heard in the jungle, like the whispering Sawyer heard in the jungle. Is it possible that the Walt Shannon saw was a doppleganger, a fake Walt, to lead our plane crash survivors on a wild goose chase?

Vincent...an important character...and the only one who spoke volumes in the season premiere when it came to Walt. Vincent was very close to Walt (before the plane crashed and after). If that was really Walt several feet from him, surely Vincent would have run to his buddy.
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#279062 - Tue Sep 27 2005 12:52 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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I just saw the first episode of the new season. I had to record it, so I watched it this weekend. It was great! The whole thing with Desmond really shook me up. How weird is that?! I am so wishing that they will make Desmond a frequently recurring character. He is HOT!

Okay, feel free to tease me mercilessly for that last sentence!
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#279063 - Tue Sep 27 2005 06:17 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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I am so wishing that they will make Desmond a frequently recurring character. He is HOT!

Okay, feel free to tease me mercilessly for that last sentence!




Desmond...hot? Maybe in a weird, possibly humanoid, way

Now hot is Sayid and Sawyer...
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#279064 - Tue Sep 27 2005 08:44 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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I am so wishing that they will make Desmond a frequently recurring character. He is HOT!




Ya know what, AG? As soon as Desmond spoke to Jack I almost melted because of his accent and instantly thought he was hot too! What is it about a man with an accent that makes him so hot? Sawyer and his southern accent, Sayid and his British accent... Yummie! I promise you that if Hurley starts speaking with an accent, I'll even find him hot... and now that I'm thinking about it, the boy ain't ugly.


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#279065 - Wed Sep 28 2005 12:33 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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Desmond...hot? Maybe in a weird, possibly humanoid, way

Now hot is Sayid and Sawyer...




Yes, Sawyer and Sayid are hot too. After all, Sawyer was the main reason I started watching the show!

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Ya know what, AG? As soon as Desmond spoke to Jack I almost melted because of his accent and instantly thought he was hot too! What is it about a man with an accent that makes him so hot? Sawyer and his southern accent, Sayid and his British accent... Yummie! I promise you that if Hurley starts speaking with an accent, I'll even find him hot... and now that I'm thinking about it, the boy ain't ugly.




Yup, there is definitely something about accents! I love Desmond's and Sawyer's!
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#279066 - Wed Sep 28 2005 03:05 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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I only seen season one final episode on monday night gone by here, I can't wait until season two but we'll probably only get that once America is near the end of season two (if we're lucky), who's desmond, I keep hearing about him on all the Lost fansites. Please tell me as I won't find out until a year or so away, thanks

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#279067 - Wed Sep 28 2005 07:40 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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Lost is the only TV show I religiously watch. It's simply brilliant, from the idea to the acting. The stream of CSI and ER wannabe shows had me almost boycotting the networks entirely, but at least an original idea leaked out somehow.

18 minutes until episode 2 airs here!

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#279068 - Wed Sep 28 2005 10:00 PM Re: Lost! Season 2!
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Did anyone else notice the LOGO on the shark?

That same logo that was all over everything inside the hatch...

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