#280600 - Tue Sep 27 2005 09:49 AM
Spelling and Grammar
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Forum Adept
Registered: Tue Mar 21 2000
Posts: 172
Loc: Hammond Louisiana USA
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I am just curious. In the last couple of days I have played several of the new quizzes. I have noticed many spelling and/or grammatical errors, which I pointed out to the quiz creator. Has something changed in the editorial world? I know editors keep busy, but some of these errors were glaring. For my own part, I just recently had to edit one of my earlier quizzes to bring it 'up to code' as it were, and it does make a difference. As I said at the start, I am just curious as to how these errors are creeping in.
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#280601 - Tue Sep 27 2005 05:10 PM
Re: Spelling and Grammar
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Forum Champion
Registered: Mon Mar 07 2005
Posts: 8760
Loc: Toronto, Canada, eh!
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Hi awkins, editors are only human, and we can't really filter everything out no matter how observant we are. Sometimes we may miss quotation marks, and on occasion we can leave whole sentences unfixed by accident although we try not to. If a quiz is placed online with an error on it, you guys can always send in a correction notice, and newer quizzes should be fixed very fast. If it's an older quiz with a grammar error and the author isn't around the site anymore, we'll try and fix it an place it back online as fast as we can.
-Kyle
Edited by kyleisalive (Tue Sep 27 2005 05:11 PM)
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#280602 - Tue Sep 27 2005 05:33 PM
Re: Spelling and Grammar
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Administrator
Registered: Sun Dec 26 1999
Posts: 54484
Loc: Sydney oz downunder
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We could say it was a plant, to see who was observant .. and you passed; but we won't say that! Everybody in here is involved, authors, editors, and players; it's a 3-way street. This was Terry's message to members when he set up Quizzyland: The FunTrivia quiz system has a bunch of algorithms which try to filter out malformed questions. And, as stated above, editors take an initial pass on all quizzes. Also, whenever a player completes a game, he/she votes with a click of the mouse on the relative quality of the game. Poor games will quickly fall to the bottom of the list, or be removed entirely from the system. On top of this we have a group of volunteer category editors who watch over games in their categories. These people filter out obvious junk and have the ability to fix or point out errors in games that have problems. Players may also report errors directly to game creators at the end of a game (options are provided), and the games can quickly be corrected through the game edit program. Games that collect a lot of unfixed error reports are removed from the system. Thus, quality improves over time. Trivia by democracy -- it works! http://www.funtrivia.com/welcome.html
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#280603 - Wed Sep 28 2005 06:47 AM
Re: Spelling and Grammar
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Star Poster
Registered: Sat Feb 10 2001
Posts: 18899
Loc: California USA
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By the way, those poor games or older quizzes falling to the bottom of the pile are sometimes churned up with the daily quizzes...which means they get correction notes and if they're really not up to snuff, we'll deal with them. I've had it happen to my own old quizzes, so don't feel bad.
I had a linked question, yikes!
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#280604 - Wed Sep 28 2005 07:56 AM
Re: Spelling and Grammar
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Forum Adept
Registered: Tue Mar 21 2000
Posts: 172
Loc: Hammond Louisiana USA
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Just stirring up some lively discussion, and believe me, I don't feel bad when I'm pulled up for bad spelling or grammar. Although sometimes I think I must have been DUI when I submitted some of my quizzes 
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#280605 - Sat Oct 01 2005 09:04 PM
Re: Spelling and Grammar
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Pure Diamond
Registered: Fri May 18 2001
Posts: 123698
Loc: Canton Ohio USA
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I just got hauled out on spelling today. I was working on that little quiz for well over a month, on and off, and I found all the misspellings I made, as far as I could detect. My spelling is not always the best at first shot but I usually spot them as I review and edit before I submit. I asked which questions had misspellings (since he or she initially said they were quite negligible ones) but was, of course, told to get a Spellchecker. This was not bad advice but I was honestly so sick of the quiz after weeks I decided not to bother. I've probably made an enemy  (which my intention was never to do, especially with an editor I've never dealt with before...). They probably think I toasted the quiz out of some sort of spite - which was not the case. I was just plain sick of that quiz and reading through it for errors. The editor said he or she really liked the quiz and was anxious to play the first two in the series; a very nice person all-around! Truth is, I think they liked the quiz better than I did, at this point. Does anyone else do that? Scope your text so often to the point where it is just impossible to notice the little mistakes? I did with that one, it looks like  .
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#280607 - Sun Oct 02 2005 04:07 AM
Re: Spelling and Grammar
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Moderator
Registered: Mon Dec 03 2001
Posts: 20912
Loc: Sydney NSW Australia
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Gats, I am an editor, and I get annoyed with my own quizzes, too. I have had one that I started writing in January, and it is still not finished. Even when it is, it is such an obscure topic, that I doubt it will ever get rated.  Hang in there...
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#280608 - Sun Oct 02 2005 12:13 PM
Re: Spelling and Grammar
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Multiloquent
Registered: Mon Jun 04 2001
Posts: 3313
Loc: Los Angeles California USA
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I haven't had that problem since I started writing my quizzes offline in MS Word documents. I can let it sit as long as I want without really having to look at it, and when I am done, I trust it to pick up the spelling errors and any silly spacing/capitalization/punctuation errors. That way I don't have to scour it to death until I can't stand looking at it anymore.
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#280609 - Sun Oct 02 2005 02:42 PM
Re: Spelling and Grammar
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Star Poster
Registered: Sat Feb 10 2001
Posts: 18899
Loc: California USA
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I have one quiz that's got some neat stuff and I gave in to the temptation and put it into the template with two questions missing. I'm sure I'm not going to hunt the file, but type in two questions directly. The propensity for silly errors on my part is greater.
Even people who spell well will do this, happens to the best of us.
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#280610 - Sun Oct 23 2005 01:20 PM
Re: Spelling and Grammar
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Participant
Registered: Tue Sep 06 2005
Posts: 13
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I love this program for help in spelling before posting. It is called "iespell." I know I posted this before but I couldn't find it here. So I did find it here for those that may be interested. Many use it for posting at other groups and even for those that do ebay auctions! It is downloaded to ones computer. http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,23109,00.asp
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#280612 - Mon Oct 24 2005 10:48 PM
Re: Spelling and Grammar
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Participant
Registered: Tue Sep 06 2005
Posts: 13
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I gave an alternative link because when I did visit the original site it was upgrading and couldn't go there. Thanks for the original link!
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