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#280833 - Fri Nov 11 2005 07:05 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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WTG SM, I never watch bowking, but will make an exception when you go on the professional circuit!
Dave the story about how 3 people at the pumps spoke up for your turn (a total stranger) helps reaffirm my faith in human decency.
Too oftne the only people you encounter are the ones like the queue jumper.
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#280834 - Fri Nov 11 2005 09:54 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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It is amazing how many people seem to pursue bullying as an enjoyable hobby!

Once at the movie theater, a woman brazenly cut in line in front of us. I turned around to my girls and said " Look at this and learn from it. Only self absorbed, thoughtless people cut in line. Fortunately you will both know better."

The look on the woman's face was a study. Maybe she'll think twice before pulling that on someone else.
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#280835 - Fri Nov 11 2005 03:18 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Hee haw! Well my son's football team won their semi finals! They will be headed to the finals at the big stadium (home of a CFL team) one day next week.
They were supposed to play on Wednesday, but since our senior team plays on Firday, there's a rumour that they are going to try and switch it for then. I hope not, because it will be difficult for my husband to get Friday off, although Wednesday won't be a problem.
We are very excited!
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#280836 - Fri Nov 11 2005 06:59 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Yay skunkee and son, go team!

I hate queue-jumpers too, and often make loud comments like kt's. When my brother's been with me he's mentioned several times - with an equal mix of awe and discomfort, I think - "gees, if you were a guy you'd get beaten up for saying things like that!" Well, in that case, if I was a guy, I guess I'd be a bruised and battered guy, cos I can't imagine not commenting on rudeness!

I had news yesterday which falls into the "is it a high or is it a low" category too. My mother-in-law had been speaking to my sister-in-law (coincidentally enough, her daughter!) and told me that one of our nieces has been formally diagnosed with Bi-Polar Disorder. Just to clarify completely, my husband's sister has 3 daughters - one 18 and 15-year-old twins - and it is one of the twins I'm talking about; my husband is Bi-Polar, and strongly suspects that his paternal grandmother was also.

The news didn't come as a great shock to me, she's been having problems for a long time, and I knew she had depression, at least. Obviously I wish she didn't have any disorder, but the part which I see as a high is that she's been diagnosed while she's still so young. Ed was in his early 30s before someone finally picked it up in him and he started treatment, and although I started seeking treatment for my own mental health problems in my early 20s, it wasn't until my late 20s that I really knew what I had and what to do about it. So with early diagnosis and treatment, and with the crucial factor of understanding and supportive relatives (and also greater public awareness and acceptance) I have every hope and expectation that she will do well. And it also makes me feel good that all my bellowing and insisting that mental health is something which needs to be talked about has in some small way helped her to be in this relatively good position.

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#280837 - Sat Nov 12 2005 09:26 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Wow, that is news that provokes mixed feelings.
It's sad that she has to cope with that, but good that she is diagnosed younger than usual, because coping should be easier with proper treatment.

We went to see Chris dr Burgh last night, He was amazing. He played for 3 hours, just him, and played just about everything I wanted to hear. He's a very personable performer, and did one number where he wandered through the audience. Since I had an aisle seat, he was literally inches away from me at one point.
There was a sad moment, when he shared that his mother-in-law had died the day before, and he sang a song that isn't completely finshed yet, dedicating it to her. It was quite moving.
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#280838 - Sat Nov 12 2005 08:17 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Ing, in spite of the struggles your niece has ahead of her, it is such a positive thing that she has been formally diagnosed and can now begin some type of treatment. It may take some time and 'tweaking' to find a drug and dosage that works well for her, but in the end it is so worth it.

I have an aunt with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. She was not diagnosed until her late 40's. When she was finally diagnosed and placed on an appropriate medication, she improved dramatically. Her life became far more tolerable for her and for those of us around her.

I feel so strongly for people with mental illness and disorders. (At this point BKA pulls out her soap box and steps up to the mike ). Sadly there seems to be a stigma attached to an illness with any 'mental' connotations. Because of this people who need to seek help are reluctant to do so for fear of how they will be perceived by those around them.

In many instances, mental illness is due to a physiological disorder in a person. In the case of my aunt, her brain depletes itself too quickly of the neurotransmitter serotonin. This is a physiological disorder in her body that produces psychological symptoms. This is nothing to be ashamed of.... no more than having a lack of insulin in the body. Yet she suffered for years with fears of being thought of as 'mental'. Only when she would seek treatment did she finally find a Dr. who could diagnose, treat, and help relieve her distress.

Anyway getting back on topic, I'm so glad your niece has been diagnosed. Diagnosis is the first major step on her journey to wellness.

She also sounds like she has a loving and supportive family behind her. That is something else that cannot be under-valued. I wish her well.

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#280839 - Sat Nov 12 2005 08:24 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Here here. Some people I love very much suffer from alcoholism, another disease with a bad stigma attached. Matter of fact acceptance of this as a treatable disorder, rather than a moral failing, can make an enormous difference in the lives of many many people - not just those who are sick, but also their fmailies.

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#280840 - Sun Nov 13 2005 12:40 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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It is truly a shame how people are about certain afflictions. I've always guessed that it is those people who think there-is-a-reason-for everything types that proliferate such drivel. "My sister is an alcoholic? What did we do wrong?" "My Mom is bi-polar! Why can't I snap her out of it?" None of us are blessed with magic spells to eradicate such stuff. We ARE, though, bestowed with the innate ability to understand things and deal with them. If we choose to, that is. So many people confuse diseases with (ahem) disgraces. With exceptions that is unfair to society overall, in my opinion.

Now to the high/low points of my microscopic little spin through time: I did get an invitation for Thanksgiving dinner last week. It sounded as though it had been offered at gunpoint! I'm either contagious or feeble beyond repair, after all *snort*. Needless to say, that all went in one ear and out the other. I'd much rather sit at home and eat tuna out of a can and pretend it's a feast than to sit at a family table afraid that a sneeze will be misconstrued as a spasm or whatever. It's enough that I usually feel like your run-of-the-mill cripple. I don't need to be treated like a "scary" one, too. Yeah, they might even mean well. There is just as strong a possibility that they don't.

Another little "low" spot ---> I almost lost my ISP service today. Can have none of that happening. 5 days late on a $24 payment? Good grief! That seems to border on hyperactive impatience. But I was ever so nice and that problem is fixed. The high point was Sue's good news (I just love a good a worthwhile chain of events) ! Mostly we're settling into the long winter's nap here in Ohio. The majority of us expecting a wake-up call in, maybe, mid-March?
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#280841 - Sun Nov 13 2005 02:48 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Low - I have just returned from the airport having seen my daughter off. I am presently VERY stressed as she went through into Security and almost immediately they called her name to tell her to get the heck to the gate! She was intending to buy some duty frees after Security and as she has a hearing problem she might not have heard them shouting for her. The plane took off at 8.37am so it is touch and go as to whether she actually got on it! Her mobile was switched off, I tried to phone her from the carpark to tell her to move herelf without success. Now I have to wait about an hour to find out if she actually caught the plane. If she missed it the only alternative way of getting home would be vey costly - it was the only flight of the day to that particular airport.

It was good to have her home for a few days.
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#280842 - Sun Nov 13 2005 06:37 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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I do hope your daughter made her flight Sue...just what you needed, more stress!

Thanks to all for your comments and support about my niece and mental illness. I think we need to get a multi-person soap-box and take it on tour!

Ed has spoken to his sister and heard about what treatment the young one is to receive. We've been doing some research, and I have (of course) offered to be the sounding board for any of the family on 'what it's like to live with a Bi-Polar bear...' (Ed has a hilarious sweat shirt with a picture of this legendary two-headed beastie on it!) One of my immediate worries is for the twin sister of the newly diagnosed one, but it sounds like my sis-in-law is being wonderful with her too. I have to admire her (sis) as she struggles with mental illness also, and her particular brand has been unusually resistant to diagnosis, and thus treatment. Starting new neurological medication regimes isn't exactly the kind of mother-daughter bonding you really want to be doing, but, as I say, they do all seem to be doing relatively well so far.

I could go on about alcoholism and its links to (other) mental illness, and how that little gem affects my life, but I'll leave that for another time...it does make a rather neat segue though, to --->

Family 'celebrations', what can I say? Gats I'm horrified and angered to hear that your family can't accept your illness (I might even have to let fly in my mutter corner ...) There must be some serious fear running through those people...I can understand all too well the desire to stay home with tuna (maybe one of those ones with black pepper and lemon or something - it is a special occasion, isn't it? ) as this, too, unfortunately hits a little close to home for me (literally).

So what are you going to do?

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#280843 - Sun Nov 13 2005 07:23 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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She caught the plane! Didn't have time for duty free shopping. All the other passengers were already on the plane.
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#280844 - Sun Nov 13 2005 07:36 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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I am glad your daughter got her flight I am sure everything will work out for your niece Ing, and also everything will work out with you too Gatsby!
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#280845 - Sun Nov 13 2005 10:11 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Glad your daughter made her flight Sue.
Gats, you should go to Thanksgiving and be obnoxious like Col. Slade on 'Scent of a Woman'.
Have a little fun with them and maybe even juggle some live grenades!
Seriously though, why don't you go and see if you can foster a little understanding? Sounds like they could use a little education in being nice.
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#280846 - Sun Nov 13 2005 11:31 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Maybe she's right, Gats. What could it hurt...Maybe improve relations in the tribe a little?

Think it over.
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#280847 - Sun Nov 13 2005 04:15 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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What Katie said, Gats.

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#280848 - Sun Nov 13 2005 10:02 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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High of the day- Tomorrow, rough sketches and photos for a huge beach mural in a tanning salon. Originally, I had been slated to render a pasture full of horses, but after some thoughtful discussion, I was able to convince the lady that beaches and vivid sunsets might be more universally pleasing for her customers, many who are city folks who suffer and break a sweat if they get too far away from cement and cell phone transmitters.
The original plan for a horse mural in her new home, however, is still on, and it ought to be just fine since that is one of her favorite subjects. This particular job was to have been finished several months ago, but she and I both have suffered at the hands of building contractors who never show up. So we're very much behind schedule.

Can't wait to get started. Painting these wild, 'end of the world ' looking sunsets [ as my son calls them] is one of the things I am best at, therefore it ought to go smoothly and quickly.

I hope.
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#280849 - Sun Nov 13 2005 10:58 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Quote:

...be obnoxious like Col. Slade on 'Scent of a Woman'.




Quite a funny scene (or so I thought) when Col. Slade was at the 'trial' of the two boys. I don't know that I would say he was obnoxious, but he definitely stood up for what he believed in.

My high - everything went well at work, even though it was an 11-hour day.
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#280850 - Mon Nov 14 2005 03:08 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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High - the dog survived his general anaesthetic today, which was by no means a certain thing.

Lows - father insisted on coming to the vet, even though he'd had a 'funny turn' earlier in the morning, and then started throwing up all over the place the poor old b.

Then went to see uncle to try and sort out some do-gooder in the retirement village who has been filling his head with all sorts of ideas without bothering to find out anything about him. "He says I don't need to sell my house, and I can drop into the Blind Society anytime without an appointment, and I should have taxi vouchers so I can go out by myself, and that when I write my will..." We do have to sell his house, and we've jumped through 900 million hoops to try and get him deemed competent to write a will, but it ain't gonna happen. I know this guy 'means well', but I'm really quite stinky about a 'professional' (he's a psychology intern) who goes in and deals with people with dementia and believes takes it at face value when they tell him they don't have any family to look after them and nobody does anything for them...then again, I'm sure I've got a bridge on the books I can sell him...

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#280851 - Mon Nov 14 2005 06:08 AM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Low--

Last night a woman was air lifted to the womens/childrens hospital were I work. She had been involved in a head on collision involving a minivan. She was seven months pregnant and quite badly injured. Multiple lacerations and fractures. The fetus did not survive. Her husband was in worse shape and was undergoing surgery in another hospital. Their 3 year old daughter, was in intenstive care and it was uncertain if she would make it. We were trying to make arrangements for the poor mother to be with her toddler. It was all so sad. A family's life shattered in an instant.

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#280852 - Mon Nov 14 2005 01:04 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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My highlight - my Dad goign to see his specialist today. He has decided (after a lot of thinking) not to take the other chemotheraphy option which was offered, and to just cope with the pain with painkillers. Even if he had chosen the other option, it may had made him feel ill, and not have made much diffence. So even if there is no treatment for him, we're going to make the best of things and take every day as it comes, enjoying every minute
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#280853 - Mon Nov 14 2005 01:40 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Yes, Jane, these will be days when hopefully you can spend some really good time with your dad. I hope they are able to manage his pain in a way that he can be comfortable, but not too groggy.

We are all thinking of you and your family.
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#280854 - Mon Nov 14 2005 03:10 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Your father sounds as if he is a very brave man Jane. Hopefully you will have plenty of quality time with him. I will think of you all.
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#280855 - Mon Nov 14 2005 04:21 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Yes, Jane. Keep a positive attitude for yourself as well as for your Dad. Enjoy each day with him to the fullest. You know that all your friends here will be thinking of you.

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#280856 - Mon Nov 14 2005 04:57 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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It can be positively humbling to come into this thread and read what some of you are dealing with on a daily basis. Sometimes I don't respond because I really am at a loss for what to say, but that doesn't mean that I'm not thinking about you.
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#280857 - Mon Nov 14 2005 06:09 PM Re: Good Night & Good Morning/High and Low of Day/
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Ditto here, I never miss a day, and every silent day I'm still thinking 'Hang in there'.
The prevailing attitude to mental illness seems to be similar to the Victorian one to paralysis, ie 'I'm sure if they made enough effort they could overcome it'. 'No they can't!'. As BallyK and ing so clearly pointed out, every new experiment finds more chemical and genetic reasons for it, and unfortunately perfectly ordinary people otherwise have an extra burden like any other chronic illness.

Soapbox over, main high is soon after she returned from a long stay abroad, a new female friend invited me over on Friday (with my mum, who was her friend first) and we had a great time as we have every other time since meeting around a year ago. I hope there will be many more times, but for those 'satguru watchers' it's 'just friends' at the moment...


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