#287175 - Tue Dec 06 2005 12:42 PM
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I don't know that much about his policies, but I suspect, as Ben Elton put it so well, the leadership of this country has become one of style over content. I mean, if Ann Widdicombe had had identical policies, does anyone think she'd have made it? I'm of neither persuasion so see both sides from the outside, but if the Tories are going to fight an election I'd rather they used policies I recognised than each trying to pinch the most popular policies from the other, often apparently whether they believe in them or not. Pure cynicism. I liked William Hague... but again, all about what's on the surface nowadays.
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#287176 - Tue Dec 06 2005 12:50 PM
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I liked William too, especially when he presented 'Have I Got News For You', showed that he wasn't a pompus stuffed shirt.
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#287177 - Tue Dec 06 2005 06:42 PM
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I don't know that much about his policies, but I suspect, as Ben Elton put it so well, the leadership of this country has become one of style over content.
This reminds me of a movie I was lucky enough to catch late one night on TV, Privilege. At least partly because I was about 18 when I saw it, some of the messages in it really hit me between the eyes. This review by Roger Ebert was the only one I could find which even vaguely hints at what I thought was one of the central themes. That is, in this Britain of the "near future" (as seen from 1967), the Party Political system has been abandoned completely in favour of a coalition Government based on cynical and manipulative control of "the people". The movie is, as many reviewers have commented, highly unsubtle, and a little hysterical in its presentation of the new Fascism, and I've always wanted to see it again to see what I make of it as an "adult". Certainly worth seeing if it ever pops up.
Guru I can't say that I am a Party animal, but I wish I could feel more aligned to either side in a way that isn't just as a negative reaction to the other. That is, I find much of what the current Government stands for abhorant in the extreme, but I don't find anything especially attractive in the Opposition either. I gather the situation is even more confused in British politics, with "Poodle" Blair jumping on the Bush bandwagon, while still trying to retain some meaning in "New Labour", and struggling with the Socialist hangover of "Old Labour". And of course I don't need to moan about the "Republicanisation" of the Democrats in the US, as Michael Moore does enough of that for all of us! 
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#287183 - Wed Dec 07 2005 05:02 AM
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Definitely not, I mean THE Boris, Old Etonian and sporting floppy white/blond hair of course.  A complete nut, but lovable.
For those outside the UK who might be wondering who he is - here is his home page
Edited by sue943 (Wed Dec 07 2005 05:04 AM)
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#287185 - Wed Dec 07 2005 02:23 PM
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It appears to me that success at elections hinges on whether the party leaders have got nice hair or not. We'll see if this theory holds good at the next General Election.
Baldness is undoubtedly a big 'turn-off' for many voters, and the Conservatives were told so on a number of occasions, but still naively replaced the bald William Hague with the equally bald A.D.S. If they'd had the sense to select Michael Portillo instead, the Party would not IMHO have suffered such a debacle of a defeat at the General election which followed. Portillo with his flowing locks and charismatic personality would have commanded an enormous number of votes, but his lifestyle didn't appeal to the old fuddy-duddys of the Party who still prefer old men, bald men, or Etonians. One day they'll learn - maybe!
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#287189 - Wed Dec 07 2005 06:12 PM
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Baldness is undoubtedly a big 'turn-off' for many voters,
Many, perhaps, but I'm not sure the message has filtered through to us antipodeans. I know this thread is about UK politics, but I just had to share these pics of our John. (Hint: he's our Prime Minister )
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#287190 - Wed Dec 07 2005 06:39 PM
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I'm told a few women find baldness sexy! The Victorians had their very own, very silly idea about the cause of baldness and, what's worse, I'm told that a few people still believe that particular story!  PS. I wonder how long it will be till the guy gets a hair transplant (amid much media publicity, no doubt).
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#287191 - Thu Dec 08 2005 07:17 AM
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Baldness in men will now be discussed over in The Lounge, a whole new thread!
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#287192 - Thu Dec 08 2005 09:10 AM
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