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#298229 - Mon Feb 27 2006 03:54 PM Weird ingredients touted
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Has anyone noticed the trend towards mentioning ingredients in foods to tout them, when, the ingredient touted does not sound terribly appetizing?

I just spotted a bottle of Ketchup with a, 'full of lycopene' thing on it...

Do I really need lycopene? Apparently I do, but, does anyone really care what's in ketchup to the extent of knowing that tomatoes are good for you and that ketchup seems to have quite a few in it?

I've noticed this trend in shampoos and other beauty products...the more exotic the name the better.

Where was lycopene in the old days?

The Brits are sure getting their share of lycopene with those stewed tomatoes at breakfast, or does anyone eat them anymore?

Any weird ingredients you've seen?

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#298230 - Mon Feb 27 2006 05:19 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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Stewed tomatoes? Do you mean tinned tomatoes warmed through? In which case the answer is yes, I opened a tin only this evening.
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#298231 - Mon Feb 27 2006 05:47 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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Fried tomatoes are still usually part of the "full English breakfast" in places that still serve it. I've never liked them myself, and I've never liked tomato soup or tomato sauce either; but I love fresh tomatoes.
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#298232 - Mon Feb 27 2006 07:45 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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Well you're apparently having your dose of lycopene, along with that found in guava, grapefruit, rosehip, watermelon and red chillies.

I actually eat them if they're on my plate in the UK if we're having that full English breakfast, but, not the fried ones.

Now the stewed ones, I would put those in chili (con carne) so, I'd be getting the double dose of lycopene in that with the tomatoes and chillies.

I wonder if it's wise letting kids know that ketchup is a vegetable and good for them?

I suppose I sound old hat, but the whole coffee containing anti-oxydants has been around for a long time now.
Tea does too. But when I came back to the States two years ago, I had to think twice when I read that..sounded like a grade of fuel.

Coffee is in fact the number one source of anti-oxydants for Americans apparently.

Now I hope you're getting your Omega 3 fatty acids as well...
That sounds like a spaceship but it's contained in Flaxseed oil.

Another product with the Omegas of the above as well as the Gamma-Linoleic Acid, is hempseed products...

Cranberries and pomegranite juice is all the rage here for bladder, prostate and a few other things. (I know the benefits of this though). Squeezing those tiny seeds must be costly though, it's about five dollars for a small bottle of it.

Hmmm well in the beauty product line, Bruyere being ever on the lookout for something new, this sounds nice but what a waste of good cognac:

"with the absolute of Lotus and essential oils such as Magnolia leaf, Magnolia blossom, Holy basil and Cognac, all carrying energy resonance for the hair. "
my hair could not carry on with much more energy resonance, it already had a mind of its own!
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#298233 - Mon Feb 27 2006 08:00 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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essential oils such as .... holy basil and Cognac



I never realized that cognac was an oil, and surely it’s only essential in places where you can’t get a decent single-malt whisky.

Is there really something called “holy basil”? It sounds like an oath from the lips of Batman to me.
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#298234 - Mon Feb 27 2006 09:05 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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I know that in Europe I worked with a laboratory that made scents amongst other producta and they have determined that the American male responds to bacon frying and cinnamon buns baking for that 'my woman' sort of thing. The Italian male it's gotta be pesto. In fact, the perfume I smelled during the test stage had basil in it.

So, as this product is shampoo then, perhaps you'd attract the Frenchman with the cognac, the basil would be for any Mediterraneans, Magnolias are for the Southern gentleman from the states, Lotus from the east and perhaps you could add some ale for the Brits.

I guess I'm not surprised that companies like the 'slow ketchup' from the States are jumping on the mystery ingredient bandwagon.
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#298235 - Mon Feb 27 2006 09:26 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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My daughter thinks ketchup is the next best thing to chocolate. But she's spoiled. Grandma keeps us supplied with homemade ketchup that might as well be tomato jelly. It's so good I never throw the end of my hotdog bun away just because all it has on it is ketchup. In fact, I've considered seeing what it would be like just spreading some on toast. And yet, it's ketchup, so I don't. But Mmm. And certainly VERY good for you, and I would, in fact, consider it a proper serving of fruit. I know how much fruit went into each tablespoon.

My favorite mystery ingredient is jojoba. It was in everything there for a while! All the soaps and shampoos and bath salts... I don't know what is special about jojoba, but it must have been pretty good.
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#298236 - Mon Feb 27 2006 10:16 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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well, this link is kind of interesting...I know I tried some oil on my hair and skin and it was heavyyyyy.

Turns out that it was a substitute for sperm whale oil.
Great news.

Your kid's ok with chocolate too as apparently, it's on the list of things providing the lycopene.

Maybe they can't say it's the slow ketchup anymore, because they've changed the bottle and have those upside down ones now.
So they have to come up with something new.

You did know though that the miracle breath mint of my childhood haunted by the fear of halitosis, was, the drop or retsin and it was nothing but vegetable oil?
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#298237 - Tue Feb 28 2006 08:00 AM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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My son ate his body weight in ketchup when he was younger. We used to go through a BIG bottle about once every 2 weeks. He still eats a lot of it, but not as much.
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#298238 - Tue Feb 28 2006 08:00 AM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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I will just step in with a medical warning here, both cranberry and grapefruit juice ought not be consumed when on certain medications - I am not permitted to drink either and I adore grapefruit!
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#298239 - Tue Feb 28 2006 08:25 AM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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True, they are contraindicated as they probably affect the acidity of your medication.

Another thing that is contraindicated is Walnut oil from what I recall.

Skunkee, perhaps your son's protected as he got his lycophene protection quite young.
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#298240 - Tue Feb 28 2006 10:42 AM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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But what is it protection from? I haven't actually heard much about it.
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#298241 - Tue Feb 28 2006 12:36 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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Health Disclaimer: funtrivia does not endorse any of these products nor does it advocate putting ketchup on every food in front of you as a substitute for seeing your doctor. There.

Well they've found that people who eat lots of tomatoes in particular, and it's processed better by the body with heated products rather than raw tomatoes apparently, have lower rates of certain types of cancers, in particular stomach, prostate etc.

So ketchup is heated tomatoes and it's more efficiently processed by the body if the tomatoes are heated.

Here's a link to a site for more info on the studies:
http://www.lycopene.org/
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#298242 - Tue Feb 28 2006 05:48 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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Thank you ma'am. Hmmm, my poor dad is allergic to tomatoes!
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#298243 - Tue Feb 28 2006 06:03 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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Unfortuately, I hate tomatoes. I just can't stand them, especially raw on sandwiches and burgers. But I like ketchup and tomato sauce. People seem to think that's very strange.
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#298244 - Tue Feb 28 2006 06:09 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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Quote:

Unfortuately, I hate tomatoes. I just can't stand them, especially raw on sandwiches and burgers. But I like ketchup and tomato sauce. People seem to think that's very strange.




I don't think it strange at all. I have always loved hamburgers, but cannot eat meatballs or meatloaf...and they are all made with ground beef.

I have been called strange because of it.

I used to love tomatoes, but with my recent onslaught of acid reflux well, tomatoes and anything of tomato base is out; as well as onions..no matter if they are raw or fried...out they go.


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#298245 - Tue Feb 28 2006 06:21 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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Well, thank you JTJ! I think I don't like to actually chew or bite into the tomaotes. I'm guessing the reason you don't like meatballs or metaloaf is because the meat is more "by itself", where in a hamburger it is not. I'm probably wrong though!

And I'm sorry to hear about your acid reflux. Feel better soon!
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#298246 - Tue Feb 28 2006 06:21 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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When I was pregnant with child number one, only tomato juice would cut that acid attack stuff...it was like fighting fire with fire.

If you fly often, you should try tomato juice with lemon on the plane, they say that carbonated beverages aren't ideal and the water has the ice cubes which are not good either.
Drinking alcohol isn't that good on a plane either.
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#298247 - Tue Feb 28 2006 07:45 PM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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JTJ I found that I cut my acid reflux by about 90% when I stopped drinking tap water. I think it has something to do with the chlorine.
I still drink lots of water, but it's either bottled, or run through my Brita filter.
It's something worth trying.
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#298248 - Wed Mar 01 2006 05:23 AM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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I'm guessing the reason you don't like meatballs or metaloaf is because the meat is more "by itself", where in a hamburger it is not. I'm probably wrong though!




Something like that. It is because meatloaf and meatballs have pretty much the same seasonings (at least the way my mother used to make it). She used to by the frozen Topps hamburgers, and they were only seasoned, in the fry pan with a little salt and pepper and put on the bun.

Now that I do all of the cooking, I use a meatloaf mix that I purchase at the market, and it tastes okay, but I still do not eat it...when I make a meatloaf it is usually for my sister and my mother and the homeless man that I feed that lives under a bridge in the area.

Skunkee, I stopped drinking tap water ages ago..only drink spring water.

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#298249 - Wed Mar 01 2006 08:29 AM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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Bruyere, is that tomato juice in places thing for stomach sickness? I've never noticed a problem with drinking whatever I wanted. (Or eating whatever I wanted, for that matter... Mom always brings a box of cut up red bell pepper spears and cucumbers. Mmm.)
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#298250 - Wed Mar 01 2006 09:54 AM Re: Weird ingredients touted
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It may only work for people who are sensitive to it.
I guess I got morning sickness all day long, but it was like waves would come in and I'd just hang on to my surfboard. And whenever the nausea or acidity would attack, I'd drink it and it would cut through it.
It's on lists of things to watch out for for heartburn, and for me it's the opposite.
I changed time zones about three times during that pregnancy. My son's pregnancy was in a different season and noteworthy for

Another thing I craved was sauerkraut but the French style dish, not just the cabbage. I could eat that and it would cut through the nausea.

As to the acid reflux thing, after going through all the current diagnosis for my cough, I finally saw the asthma one through, and after two weeks of treatment, it began responding favorably and I was cough free for the first time in twenty years at least. The guy did give me a week's supply as I told him that one or two doctors had tried that too. I noticed the indigestion wasn't bothering me now either. I even tested it out by eating Patak's garlic relish at night...I'm cool.
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