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#300754 - Sat Mar 11 2006 12:33 PM Milosevic died in jail
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060311/ts_nm/warcrimes_milosevic_dc

Frankly, I wish he'd died *after* the trial had concluded so there'd be a verdict.
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#300755 - Sat Mar 11 2006 12:52 PM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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Pity he died before a verdict on his trial could be announced. No doubt he will now be regarded as a martyr and hero in some circles, and inevitably there will be rumour and speculation about whether or not he was assassinated.

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#300756 - Sun Mar 12 2006 12:59 AM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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I'm assuming that Milosevic died peacefully in his sleep. How lucky can he get? The majority of his victims didn't go out the same way. Probably none of them.

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#300757 - Sun Mar 12 2006 08:10 AM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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The main rumour seems to be suicide, so far. Yes, the victoms feel cheated of justice, and his supporters feel suspicious and are already starting to go the martyr route.

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#300758 - Sun Mar 12 2006 11:14 AM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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wow. that is just unbelievable

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#300759 - Sun Mar 12 2006 11:40 AM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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Good riddance...But the thing I notice is that it's very convienient for a lot of the Serbs who participated in those atrocities to blame it all on Milosevic [although some of them were actually mourning publically for him yesterday].

It's not like he took over peoples' minds and forced them to kill all those people. I hope the many others who have a lot of blood on their hands will be punished but I doubt it.

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#300760 - Sun Mar 12 2006 02:03 PM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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It's very bad that the proceedings in The Hague were allowed to drag on for years and years. After all, the (main) Nuremberg Tribunal reached verdicts within a matter of months. If the court had proceeded at a sensible pace there would have been a verdict long ago.

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#300761 - Sun Mar 12 2006 02:09 PM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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If the court had proceeded at a sensible pace there would have been a verdict long ago.




Well, he did want to call 1400 witnesses...
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#300762 - Sun Mar 12 2006 05:49 PM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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The main rumor seems to be suicide, so far.




This story says otherwise: Yahoo! news

Quote from the story:
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The tribunal said pathologists had determined that "Milosevic's cause of death was a 'myocardial infarction.'"




According to the news story, the autopsy took about 8 hours.


Edited by dg_dave (Sun Mar 12 2006 05:52 PM)

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#300763 - Sun Mar 12 2006 07:49 PM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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Oh, I doubt if the theorists will let facts get in the way.

Still I bet many Serbs are able to compare where they were 15 years ago with where they are now, and draw the conclusion that Milosovec was not the best thing that could have happened to them.

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#300764 - Sun Mar 12 2006 10:09 PM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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Oh, I doubt if the theorists will let facts get in the way.




How true those words are!
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#300765 - Mon Mar 13 2006 02:45 AM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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Milosevic was perhaps a man created by a millenium of war. The country he was President of had been in an almost continual state of war for longer than many countries have been around in their current recognized forms. Muslims invading then being driven out and then back in,Austro-Hungarians invading then being driven out and Germany invading etc etc etc.

The mindset of a people that have such a history isn`t one that many peoples from other countries can understand,certainly Americans with their advanced military technology couldn`t begin to really understand what it`s like to be invaded and have to live under a regime that is alien and brutal [and I hope they never come to understand]. Australians [well with the exception of our poor Aboriginals] would also find it hard to grasp the concept of living in a country that has been under occupation for years as we have no borders with other countries. Perhaps whilst condemning the actions of Milosevic Europeans are the only ones that could understand why he took those various actions.

Putting someone on trial for War Crimes is in many ways a luxury, not to say that gathering evidence from victims and their families is a pleasant thing to undertake, but that it is only the winners that have the luxury sentencing the losers, those leaders with the biggest armies,political clout and the most powerful weapons are the only ones allowed to pass judgement.

Milosevic was probably guilty of much he was charged with but was he the only guilty party? Who should be charged with the deaths of the men,women , children and babies found here? Clinton, as commander of the forces that killed the innocent? Or do such things happen in war and that is just the way of the world?

It`s certainly not a perfect world but with Milosevic dead perhaps it`s just a little bit better. There are certainly others that are as guilty who will never see the inside of a courtroom.


Edited by damnsuicidalroos (Mon Mar 13 2006 02:50 AM)
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#300766 - Mon Mar 13 2006 04:11 AM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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It`s certainly not a perfect world but with Milosevic dead perhaps it`s just a little bit better. There are certainly others that are as guilty who will never see the inside of a courtroom.




Well said, roos!
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#300767 - Mon Mar 13 2006 05:04 PM Re: Milosevic died in jail
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There are the theories he accidentally killed himself trying to get to see his doctors in Russia.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11812856/
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