#344409 - Sun Feb 04 2007 02:30 AM
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Congratulations Lynnann on 17 years of marriage. Not too many people can say that anymore.
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#344410 - Mon Feb 05 2007 02:09 AM
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Seventeen years together really IS a wonderful accomplishment. May you have many such years, Miss Lynnann.
I moved away from home at seventeen and never looked back, I was so ready to start carving out a life for myself. That wasn't the first time I had been away, since I lived with my brother during the previous summer, and got my first job. I remember getting both my high school diploma and my driver's licence within a bout two weeks of each other, which made me slightly giddy.
My son moved out when he was 18 the first time, then ended up having to move back home while he finished school. It seems A's room mate took off for parts unknown and left him with the entire rent to come up with. After college, he found both a nice apartment and a great job. [ Thankfully] It begins to look as though my older daughter will remain at home till she finishes art school, which is certainly fine by me. The younger daughter is such a cheerful, settled in homebody that we may have to apply dynamite...but that's okay, too. She'll mosey along when she's ready, and it will be all at once, overnight -in her typical fashion. Whew. One down - two to go.
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#344411 - Mon Feb 05 2007 03:35 AM
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I moved out when I was 23, I did want to leave much sooner as life at home wasn't great. My room was tiny and I clashed terribly with my dad. I saved as much money as I could right from being seventeen for a deposit on a house. My brothers would come and go as they pleased and had girlfriends stay over but my every movement had to be accounted for which cramped my social life somewhat! I finally saved enough to buy my own house, I can still remember my first night in my home, the freedom was like a breath of fresh air! The freedom didn't last long as within a year I was married with a baby! My brother's didn't leave home for good until they were pushing thirty because they never saved enough money to buy so went down the route of renting and were forever moving back home because of the cost.
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#344412 - Mon Feb 05 2007 08:13 AM
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Registered: Mon Sep 04 2006
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I moved out just before I was seventeen to do a six year hitch with the USAF.
The whole start of this thread was down to some studies and I've noticed something myself along the years and forty moves later. I've lived in a couple of college towns, Oxford, Minot, Rutgers and Boulder, Co[CU} and college and universities do nothing to mature a person, its not their objective and it shows. I've seen other studies that state that the ages of actually maturing is around 26 for the United States! Good grief by then I had a two kids and a solid marriage.
One last note- some of the homes I lived in growing up in NYC were largely Italian, same goes for Jersey and it was common to see men stay home till they were married and then in some of my friends cases even after. I guess it's a cultural thing.
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#344413 - Mon Feb 05 2007 09:54 AM
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Actually I left home officially for college at 16 to take a drama course, but after a week discovering how many plays we actually had to study rather than perform I had to return home to take a course more familiar to what I knew already (failed that as well but at least gave it a go). I didn't intend to leave home for good at 16 but was quite prepared to stay the 2 year course had I been able to do the work. I had one distant university on my whole option list at 19 but didn't get the grades to get in. But all I was worried about was passing and after a few tries eventually did. I agree with Dov (my name as well actually in Hebrew) that leaving home to study tends to make people worse as all they tend to do is drink a lot, save all the washing for their parents and eat rubbish. I would dread to think of anyone graduating and continuing to live that way afterwards.
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#344414 - Mon Feb 05 2007 12:43 PM
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Registered: Sat Mar 05 2005
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Loc: Huntington Beach CaliforniaUSA
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At seventeen. Following a strongly worded recommendation by my father lol.
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#344415 - Mon Feb 05 2007 02:50 PM
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Registered: Wed Nov 12 2003
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Loc: Nebraska USA
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I moved out at 19, despite strongly worded advice from MY father. He was irate that I wanted to leave home. I had gone to a year of college and then started working at a preschool to help me choose my career path. He was worried that if I moved out, I would never go back to school. He told me I didn't make enough money, he personally installed a second dead-bolt lock on my door (I was still living in the same city... it isn't a large city, nor does it have ANY bad neighborhoods... he was just paranoid), and every time we arrived at my new apartment with a load of belongings, he asked me if I was sure. I lived in that 2 room (bathroom and everything else room) apartment, with the cockroaches and absolutely no electronics whatsoever, for 6 months, and then I moved in with my fiance. I never went back to my parents' home, although they offered me a place when I divorced my first husband. I also never went back to school, but that is not an issue that is off the table.
My sis, on the other hand, must have moved out and moved back in more than half a dozen times, and only finally moved out for good and all when she left the state to go to graduate school at 24. She's now planning to move to Berlin. It took her a whlie to leave, but once she did, she was out of there. I, on the other hand, left fairly quickly and never went back, but I stayed pretty close to home, and plan to continue.
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#344416 - Tue Feb 06 2007 08:44 AM
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I moved out when i was 17 to a flat with my brother. I'm Now 28 and live with my wife and 3 angelic (i wish) children. I have moved back in with my parents twice between this time but not for long. I'm glad i got this second home if needed not many have.
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#344417 - Tue Feb 06 2007 11:39 AM
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I've noticed a trend at American colleges that Dov touched upon. I think it's when the men in particular live in dormitories, or houses or apts, and barely take care of their own messes. Perhaps they've been taken care of at home by their mothers. When I visited my daughter at the dorms, she was ok, but, clearly unhappy about the lack of choice with whom she lived with, the steep price, and above all, having to go eat food that she didn't care for in a separate place. Although she could have cooking facilities in the dorms, it just wasn't like a home to her.
She's so much happier in an apt with roommates of her choosing and learning to cook for them and herself. She works, studies hard and dances a lot and that's the way she wants it.
She told me, and I used to see it myself in some of the colleges I taught in, that many of the students had had everything done for them, and that wanted this state to continue.
I think I'm the proudest about how she's taking care of paperwork because she's had several jobs and now is doing bills and financial aid for school mostly on her own.
Now, I did say I see a lot of young men who tended to be a little more dependent on their families, but I need to qualify that. I think it's a tendency of some parents to not expect the same things from their boys. It's a young woman who told me how men her own age seemed hopeless as few of them had to work, their mothers cleaned up after them and gave them cars and money, and frankly dating them seemed like you were going to take over all that work from their mothers. She was twenty-five then. She'd been working since she was very young and going to school like many American kids, so, I guess she saw many of the young men as lazy and not terribly ambitious.
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#344418 - Tue Feb 06 2007 02:46 PM
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My son has been doing house cleaning for four or five years now. For the last two years he has been paid to do the cleaning but recently got fired because of his lack of effort. However, he knows how to do it when he needs to.
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#344419 - Wed Feb 07 2007 09:30 AM
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Oddly enough, when my son lived at home he was a better housekeeper than I am. My daughters, however, are due for a shock when they move out and discover that there's no elf to fool with the laundry or scrub the floors.
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#344420 - Wed Feb 07 2007 01:21 PM
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Registered: Fri Aug 20 2004
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Loc: Omaha Nebraska USA
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I've noticed a trend at American colleges that Dov touched upon. I think it's when the men in particular live in dormitories, or houses or apts, and barely take care of their own messes. Perhaps they've been taken care of at home by their mothers. When I visited my daughter at the dorms, she was ok, but, clearly unhappy about the lack of choice with whom she lived with, the steep price, and above all, having to go eat food that she didn't care for in a separate place. Although she could have cooking facilities in the dorms, it just wasn't like a home to her.
She's so much happier in an apt with roommates of her choosing and learning to cook for them and herself. She works, studies hard and dances a lot and that's the way she wants it.
She told me, and I used to see it myself in some of the colleges I taught in, that many of the students had had everything done for them, and that wanted this state to continue.
I think I'm the proudest about how she's taking care of paperwork because she's had several jobs and now is doing bills and financial aid for school mostly on her own.
Now, I did say I see a lot of young men who tended to be a little more dependent on their families, but I need to qualify that. I think it's a tendency of some parents to not expect the same things from their boys. It's a young woman who told me how men her own age seemed hopeless as few of them had to work, their mothers cleaned up after them and gave them cars and money, and frankly dating them seemed like you were going to take over all that work from their mothers. She was twenty-five then. She'd been working since she was very young and going to school like many American kids, so, I guess she saw many of the young men as lazy and not terribly ambitious.
I wouldn't see it as laziness - some of the hardest workers I know (myself included) don't do much housekeeping, especially if they don't often have people over. It's just not a priority - dusting simply doesn't benefit me.
If someone is coming over, then the place looks great - delicate saki set on the coffee table, crystal candleholders in the bathroom, glistening porcelin in the shower, the whole schmear. Most often, though, there are piles about, and that suits me fine.
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#344421 - Sat Feb 10 2007 09:42 AM
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On my 18th birthday, my dad presented me with a Birthday card. He wrote in it and it said, "Congratulations, you are now a man. As such, you will now have to act as a man. That includes paying bills. Since your mother and I both live here, if you decide to stay here, you will only be charged 1/3 of the total for all bills and food."
I moved out one week later. To be homeless in Hades would have been a far cry better than staying there any longer. But then, I did detest the SOB rather greatly.
I moved 412 miles away and never looked back.
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#344422 - Mon Dec 31 2007 04:46 PM
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I graduated high school at 16 and planned to go to a Junior college near home, but I won a 4 year scholarship to a prestigous college in Nashville. So I left home. Believe me, you don't want to live in a college dorm at 16.
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#344423 - Mon Dec 31 2007 05:36 PM
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Loc: Georgia USA
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I moved out first when I was 19, to a dorm almost within walking distance of my folks. we needed the break from eachother- the college was on quarter systems so it didn't last long. Then I moved in with a girlfriend and wound up living with a boyfriend everyone hated but me. That also didn't last long. Then I decided, at 25, to grow up. So I got married and moved in with my husband. It was a good move. 20 years later, we're still living together.
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#344424 - Mon Dec 31 2007 08:04 PM
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Registered: Mon Jan 08 2007
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Loc: Jerusalem Israel
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I moved out to college when I was 19, dormed in college dorms first year, rented a house with some other students second year and moved back to live with the folks third year. Right after graduating came to Israel.
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#344425 - Tue Jan 01 2008 10:49 AM
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I was just 17. For me it wasn't so much about getting away from my parents, but getting out of the small town I lived in. I hated it there. Never looked back.
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#344426 - Tue Jan 01 2008 03:57 PM
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Registered: Fri Apr 20 2007
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Loc: Norfolk UK
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I also left at 17 years. I should have stayed on at school for 'A' levels but left to work as hotel receptionist in central London. It was the 60's and I was lured by the excitement (and it lived up to my expectations!). It was a live-in job but once I got established, myself and some friends got our own place. We had to be rescued by parents when we ran out of money. Stayed at home for a couple of months and then left for good to go to college to train to be a teacher, but lost the plot the following year, left and got married and never lived at home again. Went abroad, travelled etc. and didn't settle down for years.
My daughter ran away at 14, returned at 16 for a while and departed for good at 17. My son went to uni at 18 and came back at 21 for 3 months before disappearing to the midlands.
I think, as a family, we have this 'wanderlust' and need to escape. We all seem to have an 'unsettled' gene.
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#344428 - Tue Jan 01 2008 07:04 PM
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Loc: Brisbane Queensland Australia
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My parents divorced in a messy way (is there any other?) when I was 13. My father held a gun to my head and pulled the trigger - he didn't know it wasn't loaded. He went off to prison and my mother got custody. On Christmas day that same year, he telephoned me to tell me that he wasn't my biological father, and that I should ask my mother who the other contenders for the title were. I've only seen him on a handful of occasions since, and for some strange reason, we can't seem to hold a civil conversation. Go figure.
At the ripe old age of 15, I summoned up the courage to tell my mother that I was being molested by a friend of the family, and had been for nearly 7 years. She asked me if this person had touched my sister. When I said "No" (and I knew that it wasn't happening to my sister), my mother told me that she could understand why this person would do such a thing. She explained to me the reasons she could see why it would happen. She even telephoned this person, had them come to the house, and asked if my story were true. They admitted it. My mother asked if they had ever done to same to another child. They said no. My mother said "I won't report you to the police then - as long as it never happens to anyone else".
I left home that afternoon, haven't given the place a backward glance. I now proudly hold the title of "the black sheep" of my family - I'm the only one to have finished high school, (actually I have two science degrees), I'm not receiving welfare benefits because I have a job (oh the humanity), and I don't have a criminal record. Yet my name is the one that no-one dares speak.
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