#37938 - Fri May 26 2000 02:18 PM
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Most recently with The Beach - some of the characters in the book are so clearly defined that I had really definite pictures of them in my head --- and the film makers didn't have a map of what was in my head (which was far better than what they came up with)!
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#37940 - Sat May 27 2000 10:09 AM
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All the time Jo, that is why if I have read the book I never see the movie. ------------------
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#37942 - Sun May 28 2000 07:47 PM
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JoJo2: The very worst movie I saw that was based on novel was Clan of the Cave Bear by Jean Auel! It was just awful! The Book was spellbinding and so I was so disappointed when the movie turned out to be so awful! It starred Darryl Hannah and it was bad! The characters were nothing like in the book and the plot was stupid! The author herself so I have heard hated the movie! That movie was the one that made me shy away from movies based on books! I will enjoy the book and form my own images of how I think it is! Happy Reading! PURPLE FAN
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#37943 - Fri Jun 02 2000 07:20 PM
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JoJo-- lord knows there are about a thousand reasons for not liking a movie adaptation, but this is defintely one of them... one of the many, many things about The Thin Red Line that made it so unwatchable. But to play devil's advocate, Jones never really got into heavy detail about the way most of his characters looked, so I put that part of it down to a difference in taste. (Everything ELSE about the film that was awful, however...) What realy sporks me is when the character is very well-described in the book, and the actor/actress cast in the past is COMPLETELY different-looking than the character in the book. And wouldn't you know it? When I started this message I had at least five examples in my head, and every single one of them just took off for points unknown! R
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#37944 - Sun Jun 04 2000 03:32 PM
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How funny xterminal, the exact same thing happened to me when I made the first post and all I could think of at that moment was QBVII. But you are exactly right about the cast now matching up to decription of what was in the book. Don't realized that people still read? LOL  [This message has been edited by JoJo2 (edited 06-04-2000).]
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#37945 - Thu Jun 08 2000 11:54 PM
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John Carpenter's otherwise horrible film _In the Mouth of Madness_ sums it up quite nicely, actually. Sam Neill is a chap who stumbles upon a plot to release a book whose text will cause homicidal insanity in those who read it (stright out of Lovecraft, though not nearly as classy and stylish). At the end of the film, Neill is walking the streets of whatever large city he's in and it's all dead quiet. He meets the Evil Nemesis(TM) in a coffee shop, and suring the conversation he asks why everything's so quiet. E.N. replies "the movie version came out today." All hell breaks loose. R ------------------
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#37946 - Mon Jul 24 2000 11:24 PM
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#37947 - Fri Dec 15 2000 05:24 AM
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'American Tragedy' by Lawrence Schiller
The book was very well written, but movie (made for television) was poorly done.
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#37948 - Thu Dec 28 2000 05:50 AM
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I agree, a movie can never be as good as a person's imagination because with a movie there will always be limits with sets, costumes, makeup etc. I usually avoid seeing movies based on books, but one thing that's even worse is reading books that are based on movies!!!
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#37949 - Sat Dec 30 2000 01:15 PM
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I saw the movie One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest before I read the book, and I was very surprised when I read that McMurphy was a tall red-headed Irishman. I thought Jack Nicholson fit the part perfectly. [This message has been edited by PARTSDUDE (edited 12-30-2000).]
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#37950 - Mon Jan 29 2001 05:24 PM
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I was very disappointed to the point of being appalled when I saw "Johnathon Livingston Seagull". THe book was great, the movie was painful.
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#37951 - Mon Jan 29 2001 11:09 PM
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For those - who have read...Hannibal- and the upcoming movie...I believe the movie will be a dismal failure.
The ending has been changed, and Clarice and the good Dr. will not be having that midnight suppper after all. However, I shall go and see this movie ....yet, as readers here have wailed so frequently, these movies fall quite short of our own vivid-imagination,....what say thee?
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#37952 - Tue Jan 30 2001 12:33 AM
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The film version of "Interview with the Vampire" had a lot of problems when translated from the book. And the screenplay was even written by the books author (all hail Anne Rice). I can forgive certain things, like Louis not having black hair, and Claudia being so much older. But the thing I can't forgive is about Armand. Sure, Antonio Banderas was great, but Armand was still something of a child, maybe 17 at the oldest. And to have him played by Banderas totally changed everything. Speaking of book to film stories, the film version of Edith Wharton's "The House of Mirth" (which I love) is supposed to be very good.
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#37953 - Wed Jan 31 2001 08:48 PM
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It happens all the time. If I know it's a good book, I always try to read it before seeing the movie. The movie usually doesn't stack up. Ivanhoe, The Count of Monte Christo, Little Big Man. I'm not a Stephen King fan, but I hear it happens to his books all the time. I guess it's tough to squeeze a 1,000 page book into two hours. ------------------
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#37954 - Wed Jan 31 2001 09:31 PM
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I agree with interview with a vampire being so different in the two formats...but in todays society would the world have been ready for claudia to be 5 years old (or so its been a long time) on the big screen. Not only would it have been nearly impossible to cast but really who would want to see a kissing scene between a grown man and a little girl....I think some books should be left just as books...this one is one I wish had never been done in movie form...
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#37955 - Tue Apr 03 2001 08:25 PM
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For the most part, I prefer the books to the movie. But I think the worst translation from book to film I've ever seen is "Watchers" by Dean Koontz. The book was sci-fi, with a bit of romance, and it went into great depth about the morality of genetically altering life, whether your intent is good or bad. It's one of my favourite books of all time. The movie version was totally different though. They changed the main character from a 32-year-old ex-green beret to a 15-year-old kid. They changed his wife into his mother to eliminate "sappy love scenes", and the entire question of morality was gone. The greatest line in the whole book, "If we have come so far to create as God creates, then we need to learn to act with the justice and mercy of God." was scrapped, probably because it encouraged the audience to think too much. But the part that bothered me the most was this: In the book there is a character named Lemuel Johnson who is the head of the FBI force sent to investicate the "Banodyne case", and he's black. His underling, however, is caucasion. In the movie version, "Lem" is white, with a black assistant. I was so offended by this blatant racism, that I get just as angry now, thinking back about it. One of my other favourite books is "Outlander" by Diana Gabaldon. (Actually, it's my most favourite  ) It's scheduled to be turned into a 4-hour tv miniseries, although nothing has been finalized yet. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it, even though I know it can't possibly be as good as the book itself
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#37956 - Wed Apr 11 2001 12:29 PM
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I was VERY disappointed in "Clear and Present Danger." The book was twisted around and altered so as to make Ryan the main character and hero, which he is not. They also changed the ending completely.
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#37957 - Thu Apr 12 2001 09:26 PM
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I was under the impression the book was the original, not the movie as Ryan is in fact the main character in all the other Tom Clancy novels of that particular series. Ok. How's this? Anyone seen the new Dune miniseries and also read the book? I thought the movie was very well done, even though I haven't read the book. In fact after viewing the movie I'm rather interested in going out and reading the novel.
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#37958 - Thu Apr 12 2001 11:33 PM
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After seeing alot of movies and finding out that they were books first I read the book if I like the movie and occasionally vice versa. Here are some of my opinions: The Neverending Story - the book was so much better, just like Bastian I got caught up in the story. If you love fantasy, you HAVE to read this one, and make sure you get it in green and red print or else it isn't as enchanting. Practical Magic - Both my mother and I agree the movie was better. The Witches of Eastwick - I liked the book better, I actually understood the book. The First Wives Club - Hard to say I like them both, the book is a little more depressing that the movie though. The Last Unicorn - Almost exactly the same as the movie except they describe where Prince Lir came from and say that Molly Grue and Schmendrick ended up together Exit To Eden - The movie had almost nothing to do with the book. Where The Heart Is - Generally the same as the movie but I liked the way they ended the movie better. [ 05-30-2001: Message edited by: MollyGrue24 ]
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#37959 - Fri Apr 13 2001 08:26 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Phellan:
I was under the impression the book was the original, not the movie as Ryan is in fact the main character in all the other Tom Clancy novels of that particular series.
I think you misunderstood my post. In the book, which is the original source, Jack Ryan plays a relatively minor role. He does have some important parts, but nothing like the big hero of truth portrayal he receives in the movie. The movie twists the book around and rewrites the ending in order to make a worthwhile role for Harrison Ford as Jack Ryan. If they had stuck faithfully to the book, Ford would hardly be in the movie. Also, the movie has a pretty happy, patriotic ending, the book does not.
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#37960 - Fri Apr 13 2001 08:37 PM
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Ok. Haven't watched the movie in a bit though I own the book. I actually thought the book was far better then the movie.
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#37961 - Fri May 11 2001 10:57 AM
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My two biggest disappointment as far as the book vs. the movie... Hannibal (would have loved to see it end like the book, CREEPY) and Scarlet, the Sequel to GWTW But you know...Hollywood ALWAYS must put it's two parts sex and violence in to make it "appealing" to the hordes of individuals out for vicarious thrills...
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