After reading that Harry Potter 5 is nearly finished and may be available from July I was just wondering if anyone had any predictions for that book or Harry's future at all.

I'm not sure if everyone got to see it but there was a programme about JKR and she did admit that 1 of the main characters will die and that she is not afraid to cover these issues in her books, even though on the whole they are for kids. My prediction would be that Hagrid dies, but 3 of my sisters think it will be Ron.

JKR also said that in this next book Harry will start to ask questions that he maybe should have asked before now. I think he might start to wonder why he HAS to go to the Dursley's each summer. But has anybody else got any ideas??

One last thing....some magazines here think that Harry will start to become attracted to Hermione, but I think Ron and her are a couple to stay and that's why I don't think Ron will die.

POst your thoughts....I'd be really interested.

Well, as for what I think will happen, I have a sneaking suspicion about Dumbeldore. This isn't from a website or program or anything like that, it's just that in the 4th book when Harry tells Dumbeldore that Voldemort was able to touch him it says that...like..."for a second, Harry thought he saw a flicker of triumph in Dumbeldore's eyes....

I'm wondering why. Is Dumbeldore really on the level? And why is Dumbeldore the only person that Voldemort is scared of?
I wonder if perhaps they are related in some way....

As for who will die, maybe Malfoy! or Neville? Maybe Dudley, or one of the teachers? or Ginny?

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I really hope that Hagrid doesn't die! He is one of the most colourful characters in the book and it would be a big loss.
Also, I hope JKR will keep the book interesting and refreshing and won't turn it in the soap opera describing Harry's hormones half of the time.
I think there is quite a bit of questions Dumbledore could tell Harry answers to. For example, I am not really sure why they thought it would be much better for Harry to live with Dursley's.
It would be really interesting to see book five!

I really hope Hagrid doesn't die too. The story would be pretty flat without him. Actually, I've always wondered about Harry's father's family. Who are they and why isn't he with them? Actually, I kind of think that Snape is going to die, because that kind of character usually does -after performing that One Fine Act that redeems him. It's a literary tradition that I'm all for. But I hope he doesn't go right away, because things would be boring without him too. I don't know - maybe Rowlings is having us all on.

i really hope that hagrid doesnt die either. the books wouldnt be the same without him. Its like hes always there for Harry. I also wondered where harrys fathers relatives were. Maybe JKR will surprise us and it will be the least expected person who dies

That's really clever about Dumbledore and something I'd never thought of. I do hope Hagrid won't die, but you never know. JKR did say that some parents had really criticised her for including the not so pleasant stuff (like deaths) in her books.
I do hope Harry's godfather is in it far more.

Okay, I've read the books a few times now so I think I've got a feel for things. But I haven't seen any of those specials. Anyway, here's what I expect in the next HP book:

1) A war (or beginning of one) between three different factions; Voldemorts followers; Dumbledores followers; and the rest of the magic community.

2) Ron and Hermoine get together as well as Harry and Ginny (Ron's little sister).

3) If a MAJOR character dies it will be one of the faculty from the school. A good twist would be Snape dying while fulfilling his life-debt to the Potter family (and it would be REALLY cool that way too).

4) Due to the immediate threat of Voldemort many of the younger students start to learn more advanced spells.

5) A much larger presence of Harry's stepfather Sirius Black (who is another potential death candidate).

Well, those are some of my ideas. Write back to tell me what you think!

I think what you have to say is very interesting and I have a terrible sinking feeling that you are right about Snape. There's not much further she can go with that character, and he's definitely marked for doom. Actually, that's too bad because he's a great character and the books without him wouldn't be half so much fun. I'm sure we'll see more of Sirius Black and Lupin, Ho hum.

i like your ideas about all of that it would be sad about snape though

Especially as it'd mean no more Alan Rickman and he's ..........yum.

I love Snape. You always need a baddie on the outside but soft on the inside character in a book for the fun of it.

I have a horrible feeling that Lupin might die or even Black because they are very well liked but there are problems with both.
1) Lupin will always have difficulty getting a job because of what he is.
2) Black is on the run at the moment and may well be caught before the end of the books, therefore meeting a fate worse than death!
But I hope the JKR finds some way to get over these problems so my favourite characters can stay!

I don't think that Lupin's death would be as traumatic to readers as others.
Ron? I don't think she could do that.
Sirius' character will be developed though, I'm certain.
The paternal side, consequently the Witch side, hasn't been present. Interesting. The Muggles side is certainly a let down!
Hagrid is a very good character but he might be the one too.
Whatever happens, Harry has to be faced with challenges, so I trust the author to provide them!

I think that Dumbledore will be the one to die, big prediction I know but Harry has to learn to make it on his own some time. In book five will will learn about the protection surrounding the Dursley house. Remember at the end of the 4th book Dumbledore told Sirius to talk to Lupin & Arabella Figg, Harry lives around the corner from an Mrs. Figg. Coincidence, I think not. As for Snape's part in the whole mess, I would like to think that he will spy again against Voldemort but 1. It's too obvious and 2. It's too hard (maybe he's an animagus, a bat perhaps)
As for the twinkle in Dumbledore's eye when he was told about Voldemort using Harry's blood, I think this is because he now has good running through his veins, and a mother's love and all that, or maybe he had had too much Ogden's Oldefire Whiskey. As for their love lifes, I think Harry and McGonagall would make a great couple, or is Cho still a possibility? I think the most likely person would be Hermione as she will be head girl and Harry will be head boy (well, who else is there?) and they will be just like Harry's parents (aww). As for Ron, he will fall madly in love with Eloise Midgen, or Mrs. Norris, it could go either way. I think we have all forgotten someone who I feel has had an abnormally large part for a non key player, Percy Weasley. I think we might see Percy do something constructive, or then again maybe not. I have far too much thinkng time, I know!

[ 04-26-2002, 08:08 AM: Message edited by: pinefresh ]

That is incredibly impressive, Pinefresh. I just checked and Mrs. Figg is mentioned in The Philosopher's Stone - the mad old lady two streets away with the house that smelled of stale cabbage. I can't believe it. This is certainly no coincidence. Talk about your intertextual analysis. A clue! A clue!

I also have to agree with you on the Dumbledore thing, and certainly Snape is going to have a big problem showing up back at Voldemort's now - I don't think being a bat will fool the Dark Lord. I still am of the opinion that Snape will die. I only disagree with you on the Harry-Hermione thing. It's pretty clear, I think, that Ron and Hermione are destined for each other (sniff).

Gosh, I wish she'd get that book out...

Dobrov, me too!! I can't wait to read the books now after reading these posts!!

And I agree about Ron and Hermione.

And excellent research Pinefresh. Rowling does nothing by mistake as she went to great pains to think of many different names and wrote them all down, so surely would not duplicate.

I myself love the 3rd book best as Sirius is featured in it so strongly. I would love for his character to be developed.

I'm all excited now!!

Just a little more on my Mrs. Figg theory. Have you noticed how much Harry says that things smell like cabbages. Either J.K hates cabbages or maybe she is equating the smell with magic. The places that I can remember that smells like cabbages off the top of my head are - Mrs Figgs, the apothecary and Snape's dungeon (I think), also the polyjuice potion smelt like cabbage. Coincidence again, I don't know.

Well coming from someone who's chosen Pinefresh as a pseudonym, I can see that you've watched the smells and odors closely as clues! Wonderful sleuthing!
We might have a bit of friendly wagering when the time comes, I'll bet Ron and Hermione are destined for each other, perhaps I'm a hopeless romantic. You can see it a mile away though.
Harry? I'm not sure.
Perhaps Ron's little sister. She had a crush on him.

I do think Dumbledore does take an occasional nip from a flask. Yes, I'll buy that one.

Snape is an intriguing character too.

Never thought I'd like these novels by the way, but my daughter converted me.

I'm with you, Bruyere. I think that Ginny will get Harry in the end. I also think that Pinefresh is a literary sleuth of no mean order (odor). I'm checking out the cabbage immediately!

Well No. 5 was supposed to be here this month but JKR has delayed and will not deliver until early next year, as is her perogative - we just have to sit tight folks!!

Latest rumours are that we will find out much more about Harry's parents, especially his mother's background, relationships between his father and Voldemort and why Voldemort SO wanted to kill them.

Any new thoughts anyone??

Hey gang!
Last I heard, J.K. Rowling is actually behind schedule in the fifth installment of Harry Potter. It is confirmed that the it will be entitled, "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix." Ms. Rowling herself announced that on "The Today Show". The phoenix in question more than likely refers to Fawkes, Dumbledore's beloved pet and supplier of feathers that are found in both Harry Potter and he-who-must-not-be-named's respective wands. The Order of the Phoenix is supposedly "the old gang" that Dumbledore refers to at the end of the fourth book. Other than that, nothing else can be said that hasn't already. Besides the fact that there will be a female Defense Against the Dark Arts professor. My guess is that it would be Fleur Delacour... As to the "one main character that is foretold to die". None other than Mr. Harry Potter himself!

Yours truly,
-Kenny

I guess you're referring to what JKR said when asked why she only writes seven HP books (and not about Herry's whole life). She answered "I notice that you're very confident that he's not going to die."
However - here are my guesses on how the story will go on:

RON WILL NOT DIE IN BOOK # 5. I know that JKR said, there were more deaths coming, and one of them would be "horrible to write". However, if Ron dies (and I'm very much afraid that he will), it won't be until book six or seven. Same with Snape - we need him, just like Malfoy, as a kind of antipole.

The female DADA teacher will most likely be Arabella Figg (and yes, she will be the old lady living opposite the Dursley's).
My theory why Harry always has to return to the Dursley's is that this place is protected by the Fidelius Charm (you remember, the one James and Lily were also protected by... only that their secret keeper was the wrong person). Maybe Arabella Figg is Harry's secret keeper, and she pretends to be a muggle to have an eye on him, in addition to the charm.

As to Harry's ancestors... why can't he be a heir of Gryffindor? A lot of hints:
- Harry could pull the Gryffindor sword out of the Sorting Hat in book 2
- James and Lily lived in GODRIC's hollow
- Gryffindor and Slytherin hated each other fiercely... and Voldemort is the heir of Slytherin...

Hermione and Ron will surely get together, they're just made for each other. I'm pessimistic, however, about Harry and Cho. If at all, I think Ginny Weasley is more likely to conquer harry's heart. But I agree with... (sorry, forgot who you were ), that JKR won't waste too much time on Harry's love-life.

Lupin will return, and we'll hear more from Sirius. Maybe Moody will be there, too.

As to the question who will die: I really do not dare to think about it. I fear that it might be Hagrid, too... I always have in mind that Robbie Coltrane answered "kind of" when asked if he signed for all seven HP movies... which means that Hagrid might not be in all of them...
But maybe it's just that he doesn't appear in book five because of his mission together with Mme Maxine *crosses fingers*

I could think of more rumors, but this post is already very long

Excuse me but has anyone thought for one moment that Harry would consider Ginny way too young? He is a teenager after all! I remember when I was 15 and someone in the year below liked me - I was mortified!!!

Anyhoos, rant over - I don't like the idea of Dumbledore dying. Harry wouldn't be ready. However he does have the lovely Padfoot on his side - who could want for anything more....?

Well I have a feeling that Dumbledore is going to die! I watched an interview with Richard Harris and he did say he hasn't been signed to do all the movies! The rest of the cast have! Robbie Coltrane will be back! So as much s I dislike the idea I have a feeling that's what is going to happen!
That's just my opinion! PF

I think I read somewhere that Alan Rickman was only signed for the first three or four films. Maybe it has something to do with the age of the actor. In the first film everybody except for Robbie Coltrane seemed to be either a child or an older adult.

I'm afraid Dumbledoor will die too, and I am really impressed with Pearlie's predictions. The idea of Dursley's house being protected by the fidelius charm is pretty logical. Actually, if this thread is kept up we aren't going to have to buy the book because everything will all be here already. And that is good because I don't really believe she's ever going to publish it.

I want to start by saying I was WRONG about Harry Potter! (Grrr! I hate admitting being wrong...)

I finally gave in and read the series on work breaks (supplied by my co-worker) and they're actually kind of cute. Rowling has a very clever sense of humour. Remus Lupin... honestly! Why not just call him Mr. Werewolf?

The thing I'm waiting to see is what exactly happened the night the Potters died. I'd always assumed Voldemort killed James and then Lily before attempting the kill Potter, but you find out in 4 that Lily was the first to die (she was the last echo out of Voldemort's wand). I'm not sure if it makes much difference, but... I'd still like to know.