Renny, Jerry and Ollie & April should all vote in her favor so she stands a chance of skating through, but that veto comp will be a huge factor this week. Libra is a wild card and she really needs to go, but not before Jessie. Angie doesn't pose a big threat, but her alliances do, so that's a problem for Keesha. Dan just needs to shut up now, we get it - you are playing dumb and everyone is snowed, but get over yourself!

Good for Keesha for sticking to her guns last night, looks like Jessie better start packing. I think she really wanted to believe Jessie when he said Libra was behind Steven leaving but he slowly became a raving lunatic when he realized he couldn't get Keesha to budge. Poor Jessie, can't get a girl to do what he says... I'd have liked to hear Keesha say at least once that she'd have nominated Libra but was bound by her conscience, it could have played to her benefit as it casts her as a solid person in the house. Instead she made it sound like she and Libra are partners, which only increases the size of the target on her own back. I hope that doesn't backfire on Keesha. Angie didn't seem too bad last night, even a bit nicer; I haven't watched BBAD to see what really went on. I guess Libra got lucky that Keesha is a person of her word, hope she remembers that.

Yikes ! There must be some peculiar gas leak in that Big Brother house, spewing fumes that make everybody *freak out*, or something? All of which seemed to kick in at once on last night's show? Very weird. Jessie's just plain lost it - he's been teetering on some 'edge of the ledge' from the start. Tuesday night the dude just went right over it. Keesha's drama in that public proclamation to "keeping her word to Libra" (an ill-advised misfiring of honor, if you ask me, to begin with ...) was a bit much, too. I like her honor in regards to staying loyal to Steve, but am NOT liking it so much in this Libra situation - meaning I'm just your average waffling viewer in respect to such matters . Then there's that Jerry/Memphis business! What in the heck was the deal there? Jerry's remark about "womanizing" was not only unnecessary, I (for one) have seen no evidence to back up such an observation. Memphis's reaction to it was yet more 'over-the-top'-ness, which seemed to be the theme of the night! Whew. I truly believe Keesha had no real strategic forethought in making the nominations she did, and I am very far away away from calling her an even "half decent" player in the game. But she certainly got the pot stirred up in there. If nothing else, she deserves bonus points for inciting a highly entertaining [I think it was entertaining, anyway] TV episode.

Even though he seemed to be begging to be evicted (and if I were voting, I'd have his butt back on the plane to Palookaville in seconds) Jessie looks like he might just manage to have enough back-up to stay this time, don't you think? That'll make for more fired-up episodes indeed. Things look pretty bad for Angie, I reckon.
Or maybe I'm just seeing it all wrong?

We have to remember we only see what they want us to see and not the full story. What they want us to see will usually be anytime there is an arguement or plotting.

Michelle I think stepped in it and put herself in Libra's sites when she burst in the room regarding the flying banner.

Just about every HOH leaves that position with a target from someone on their backs.

If the other alliance is focused on Libra, then Keesha will have some time to lay low. If they go after Libra then April will most likely be the first to freak out defending the already freaking out Libra.

The arrogance of Jessie with his conversation wtih Michelle regarding, oh we got Keesha fooled and doing our bidding were funny.

And we had another entertaining veto episode last night, I think Keesha did the best moves for herself. Even though I would like to see Libra leave, Jessie does pose the biggest threat, why they thought of Angie as a threat I don't know. It seemed unnecessary that Keesha had to announce to everyone that she and Libra are allies I think that will hurt her in the long run but for now she doesn't seem to have that big of a target on her back. If by some crazy reason Jessie is able to sway the voters to evict Angie out after his little episode, that will only prove how stupid the house is. They voted Steven out last week for no valid reason and if they miss their chance to give Jessie the boot, do these people really deserve to play this game? Jessie is extremely irritating, he has an ego bigger than his muscles, and despite all the hot air coming out of him he does pose a physical threat, this is your chance houseguests don't mess it up.

What was everyone's thought on the plane and the lockdown they had? They had a plane fly over the house with a banner in a previous Big Brother but they did not have a lockdown because of it. I have two theories, one is that some fan paid a pilot to fly over the house and the banner had something that Big Brother did not want the houseguests to see, perhaps something about America's Player of the Week. My second theory is that CBS paid a pilot to fly over the house and have a lockdown before anyone was able to see what the banner said. That way the houseguests that did see it would talk about it and perhaps make some things up to create tension, this would be a way for CBS to make the show more exciting but my first theory seems more believable.

The lockdown I think is because of the previous time it happened and the whole house read the banner. The reading of the banner did have an effect on how certain people were treated in the house afterwards. Lockdown is I think what was implemented after the first time, which they hadn't had anything in place for. This banner did seem to be a lot further away and illegible on camera, unlike the first one.

CBS maintains they had no hand in the first one, which I tend to believe but who knows? It is the only way to get word into the house and CBS was caught unawares, so the houseguests were able to see the banner in full before being sent inside. However, this time the banner was too far away to be seen easily and the houseguests are guessing what it might have read. It certainly did have an effect on them, did you see how Michelle, Jessie & Memphis all swore it read "Libra is a Liar, (heart) Steven" after Jessie directed them to "perform" as if they all saw it clearly.

Jessie's little meltown/tantrum should be the tipping point for votes, I cannot believe anyone would want to be locked up with a egomaniac any longer. Jessie is just SO smug! AAAH! For him to think that everyone else should just bend to his will is surely a sign that he HAS to go. If Michelle is not seeing this it's because she is blinded by his teeth and physique.

The longer I looked at him last night the more I realized who he reminds me of: Robbie Rotten from Lazytown - It's uncanny!

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He even acts like him too...

Last night has to go down as one of the dumbest choices for evictions I have seen on the show. I find it very boring when the whole house is voting the same way. There have been three evictions and only one vote for the person who eventually gets evicted. Which was Dan voting to keep Brian in the fist week. The whole episode which they show us revolved around getting Jessie out of the house, then every vote goes against Angie in the end.

Yikes ! Not one, not even from Renny, vote for Jessie last night? I think I get it ... but I'm so sure that Mr. Beefcake will thoroughly misinterpret what those numbers really meant. I think I get it, anyway .
Something must have been hashed out and decided amongst the group that got edited out for we 'network TV only' viewers? I thought that, one minute, they were going to give that proverbial "heads up" to Keesha to give Jessie the boot. Then, all of a sudden, it went the completely opposite way? Ah, those manipulative reality show editors ....
Very well-done to Angie on that little speech she gave before voting commenced. Didn't help anything at all, of course, but it sounded very effective . And DAN as America's Choice? Yawn! Maybe it's just me, but he seems like one of the most boring houseguests of the lot this year (so far, anyway). I figured the votes would go for one of the more 'fired-up' residents. But (sigh), America is well known to vote strangely ...

After I heard the fifth Angie vote, I was shocked, angry, and dissapointed at the house guests. They're all like lemmings, they'll do whatever one person says, I hope Jessie just wins everything and still talks like he does now because the houseguests deserve what they get. Probably one of the stupidist votes in the history of "Big Brother", keeping Evil Dick would be a close second. I know Keesha wanted Angie out because she didn't defend Steven when everyone was going after him. Was the house really afraid if they upsetted Keesha? I highly doubt that she'll get power anytime soon, she won both the HOH and POV by luck. This was the second eviction in a row when the evictee was sent home because of a personal reason rather than being a legitimate threat, absolutley absurd. The houseguests deserve what they get, win it all Jessie.

As for Dan being America's Player of the week, I didn't think there could've been a better choice. Every week he always does whatever the HOH says and no one seems to have any issues with him anyway. It seemed only natural that he can do whatever we tell him to do as well. Remember this was optional, he could of refused. A more controversial houseguest might not have accepted this challenge because they know that this would create a bigger target on his back. I hate the fact that we have to wait until Sunday to find out who wins HOH but they do this at least twice every year.

From what they are showing us, no one is playing in the moment. The head of household is making their choice as soon as they win the competition, except the first week, on who to eliminate and everyone else, regardless of alliance is conceding to that. This is the most power I have seen the head of households have since I have been watching the show.

People are good at looking for "The Dr. Wills", "Twists" and "Who's faking it", but they are missing what is right in front of them.

Episodes are starting to look scripted rather then spontaneous.

I think the funniest person for Dan to have to give a 10 second hug to would be Ollie.

If one of the current nominees is evicted, who will Michelle and the other remaining member of their alliance look to join up with?

Will they find no takers to allign with them?

Will they look to get Keesha or Libra?

Will they look for the floaters (Dan, Renny and Jerry)?

or

Will they try to team with April and Ollie?


My bet would be April and Ollie.

My bet would be the same. Given the bonding that happened between Michelle and April during the HOH comp, it'd make the best sense for her/them to migrate in that direction, I'd say (both strategically and "trustworthy"-wise). While not attempting to prognosticate (I'm not so good at the "Big Brother" game, as it wiggles around), I'd say anybody'd be pretty wise to avoid that Keesha/Libra hook-up , though.

Two seasons ago it was the everyone cries season, when Evil won.

This year it seems to be the freak out season.

The couples season had some major blow ups back and forth, but they were civil with each other on the most part.

While there are alliances, it does seem like everyone is basically playing their won game and doesn't care what anyone else thinks. Also that the alliance bonds the group in power has are not that strong.

April is being as stubborn about getting Memphis out, as Keesha was about getting Angie out.

They all had no problem ganging up on Jerry when he was HOH the first week, but now they all run scared from the HOH.

Michelle's issues with the leotard were ridiculous. She was knocked out of the game second, no way should she have thought for a second that she was going to keep that prize, especially after Libra won the competition and her trophy had the leotard in it.

Yes, it surely was a noisy mess in there last night indeed! I gotta say, I kept thinking it was more like watching "The Real World" (a show I can hardly sit through ten minutes of) than "Big Brother". I don't see any sensible strategy in place anywhere with anybody in there ! I wholeheartedly agree, too, about the 'stubbornness factor' - it doesn't really make any sense! April being so hell bent on ousting Memphis has totally blinded her (and everybody else, kinda) in paying attention to whatever else is happening around them. That what's happening is pure chaos could really help one of them get some kind of foothold and run with it, or so I'd suspect. Instead, it's the chaos theory in 3-D color AND volume . Agreed, too, that Michelle's [pretty ugly, albeit said privately, as far as we know?] rant was pointless. Since when do we expect Libra to "be nice"? What does "nice" have to do with it, all-around, anyway? Civilized would be good, but nice? And one last thing - it seems to be the year of the flyaway "confrontation", too. Somebody (anybody will do) tells another somebody that somebody else said some horrible thing. Instead of considering the source, carefully checking out the *geography* of the announcement? Nope. It's a fierce immediate march up or down the stairs to get in the alleged naysayer's face! Honestly! I've never seen such hysterics! Except in that 10 minutes of "The Real World" that I choked through, that is ...

More noise, more drama.

Memphis is starting to grow on me some as a player to root for.

Funny listening to Michelle on how she is going to flip the house. That was done the week before. She is going to get her revenge, but I see nothing shocking coming from her, as her nominations showed.

April and her follower, who I think will eventually sacrifice himself for her if given the chance, are all Michelle has right now, well Jerry too. Jerry is starting to get on my nerves now.

They set the houseguests up with the questions they used for the food competition. If I was the houseguests I would probably have guessed as they did most of the time.

Dan is smart and playing it low key.

Not to seem cynical, but the whole Renny missing her family part they showed seemed scripted. Not that she wouldn't have that reaction and true feelings. But that no one went with her right away. Then Dan comes in first, and as just as he is off camera Keesha walks in on cue.

I don't really watch the real world, but have seen Jerry Springer in the past and this group is reminding me of guests on his show.

Lots of agreement from my chair, BxB. The nominations were no surprise (and I, too, have to give Mr. Dan many points for wiggling himself [sorta] out of the line-of-fire ~ he gets more interesting weekly, it seems). And, yes ... what is wrong with Jerry? I don't blame him for being ticked at Dan - seems logical that he would be - but the *ticked off* thing has lapsed into a psychotic rage, almost. He's basically frightening and hateful now; so much for the 'kind ol' Grandpa' figure in there. The way things flip-flop all the time, I'm surprised to note that I'm starting to be on Dan and Renny's side (and didn't like either one at all at first) and am still appreciating the "reliability" of Memphis. With a lapse or two, he seems to soldier through all the hysteria with a clear and steady eye. I still like Keesha - but I also still consider her one of the weakest contestants in the house, without question. Depending on the Veto business (as usual), it wouldn't surprise this viewer to see her evicted this week.

I was surprised, too ! Nobody came in here last week to celebrate Jessie's oust. Good riddance to him indeed - but his going absolutely threw some gasoline onto some already pretty hot fire. Such a thrill it was (not!) to see that Mike *Boogie* character last night, by the way . Not quite sure why - but that dude makes me cringe. He could also obviously use a bit more anti-perspirant ....

I was thrilled to see Jessie leave the house -- I clapped when his name was read and he had to exit to an awaiting Chenbot. His smug character obviously wasn't an act as he continued to look down his nose even upon learning that Dan wasn't the swing vote that earned him his freedom, he couldn't resist calling America dumb because now without him the house wouldn't be "fun". He also made it a point to call Libra a "DEVIANT" for a second time in a week, revealing that the muscle between his ears seems to be the only one in his body that doesn't get flexed.

Knowing what I do from what has been edited to air this week, if I were making nominations I believe (based on just this week's behavior alone) I would have to put Jerry up for eviction. This man simply stunned me by mocking Dan for his deep sense of religion when he himself parades around the house in nothing but Marine garb as if it were sacred robes. Jerry is in fact more guilty of the very transgression he accused Dan of committing. Never mind that Jerry doesn't know that Dan was merely a pawn for America last week, even IF Dan had really voted against Jessie, Jerry is the LAST person who should be throwing stones considering how he himself not only swore allegiance to Brian for the entire game, he nominated Brian the very first week which resulted in Brian's departure. I seem to recall Jerry removing his Marine clothing and preaching a huge sermon about how he just couldn't wear them because he felt he'd disgraced the Marine credo by going back on his own vow in the very first week. Then he turned around and criticized Dan for removing his crucifix, even though his vote was decided by the viewers. Semper Fi, Jerry. Semper Fi. He had the audacity to call Dan a Judas and to flash the cross at him!!! Then he said Dan should burn in hell?!! Given the disrespectful manner in which Jessie treated Jerry I would think that Jerry would've held the door for Jessie. A man of his years and experience, he should be ashamed of himself, certainly conduct unbecoming for any soldier or officer.

As for Michelle, I can understand her feeling the sting of losing an ally from the game, but she seems to play with the mind of a vengeful romantic partner. Surely she realizes that Jessie has someone waiting for him at home, right? And her behavior towards Libra? More than a bit uncalled for. ANYONE would have traded away the unitard for a trip to Hawaii, guaranteed. For Michelle (and April) to throw Libra's children in her face was just spiteful; Libra is not the first person in the house to leave children behind to play the game. Libra is getting a raw deal IMO on that front, she doesn't have to explain herself to anyone in that house.

April needs to take a good look in the mirror before calling someone else a turncoat, I think the bleach has gone to her brain. Meanwhile, Ollie has been surprisingly quiet through all the week's drama, I wonder if he's defended Dan's religious beliefs to anybody else in the house. Memphis, on the other hand, has really gained my respect for not jumping on the Dan-hating bandwagon.

And finally Dan, he seems to play that "I'm not a good player" card a bit too much. Bored now... Why doesn't he just get himself off the hook with everyone and admit he was America's player last week? The girls already suspected as much anyway....

At this point I would have to say I am pulling for Renny, distantly followed by Keesha, even though she's a bit of a loose cannon.

While I could never go into the details you all do, I did happen to catch all of the the last show you've given such wonderful re-caps on. Even though I am not a 'regular viewer' like all of you, I was blown away by much of it also. Especially the disgusting display by Jerry. I will say though, I didn't totally buy into his sweet grandpa persona in the beginning. There was just something lurking underneath that and it seems to have come out - in a BIG way. I also like Renny a lot more now. I'm sorry - no I'm not - that red skintight leotard on Michelle was too much to bear along with the strutting around.

Welcome to the discussion Sandy.

I was wondering if they may have new editors for this season, if so, they need to get the old ones back. If these are the same editors from previous years, then I think this group of them has jumped the shark.

What I'd really like to know is what is spoon-fed to the houseguests during their Diary Room visits; are the producers telling the players what has been overheard by other players in different rooms to stir the pot? Are they suggesting to some of the players that they will get more on-camera time by starting up some fights? It's become tiresome to see so many adults behaving like children. The only one I really get any pleasure from watching anymore is Renny, she seems to be the only person who only flares up when she is put on the defensive, everyone else is a time-bomb waiting to go off. Even Keesha is a handful, but Renny seems to neutralize her. Memphis, whom I initially wanted to see go, has regained some ground by staying out of the "Let's Get Dan" drama - with the exception of the time he tried to reason with Michelle prior to the nomination ceremony that Dan wasn't a threat, he has steered clear of the ugliness that Michelle, Jerry and April have created by laying Jessie's eviction solely at Dan's feet. It will come as a giant shock to everyone when it's revealed that Dan didn't even vote that week. Then maybe Jerry will shut up....

Ollie is just taking up space, he's become April's lapdog at this point. I don't even find that pairing the least bit charming.

Not much to say about last night.

I did start to think that they are showing some scenes out of time sequence.

I know they hold the POV competition on Sunday I think, and the nominations I think are done on Thursdays.

So even though the last thing we see are the nominations and competitions, there has been 2 or 3 days more of footage done by the time we see the episodes.

That part where Michelle got Keesha and Libra fighting in the room. Then she literaly harrassed Keesha all the way back to Keesha's room was shown before the P.O.V. ceremony, but I got the feeling that action took place after the nominations were set in stone.

EVERYTHING is edited to suit the producers, so yes, there are lots of times where things are shown out of sequence. I recall hearing some of the houseguests from BB9 refer to having to re-do diary room sessions (for technical reasons) and being told to change back into the clothing that was originally worn in the first sessions in order to "look right". That could also explain why they are so cleaned up after competitions but are wearing the clothes they had on for the comps. Everything is done early on for editing purposes and it's a big reason I hesitate to watch BBAD, as spoilers are posted and scenarios are discussed before even being shown on national television.

Thanks for the welcome, BX.
It's good to know, since I am not a regular to this, (until this year had never really watched it) that I am not imagining the time sequence/clothes discrepancy. At first I thought I had missed something, but now I know that's not the case.

The first show and initially seeing April, I had an immediate dislike simply because she reminded me in loks and demeanor of someone I worked with for about 4 years.
That woman was the most untrustworthy, back stabbing, start a blow-up and then blame everyone else type I had come across in a long time. Well, I now dislike April immensely just because of her tactics and not just the physical resemblance. I know, this is TV, but I caught myself yelling comments out about her. The poor dog tried to figure out who in the hell was in the room with us! I can now say I understand how people have gotten caught up in BB all these years - believe me, that is something I thought I would never say, but it is so much fun!