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#441554 - Sat Feb 28 2009 03:21 AM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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Also, common bond quizzes, just by their nature, unless truly exceptional (and those get good or excellent), almost always get between average and very poor. I just intensely dislike their format and presentation to begin with. And yes, their presence in the hourly games has a great deal to do with it. Fair? Maybe not. But, still, that's a quiz section I generally avoid if I can - I detest most of those quizzes.

Also, world quizzes that are asking Hindu (or whatever non-intuitive) language questions, those are going to get a "very poor" rating off the bat unless they impress me and then they might get average. I dislike that whole category but run into them in the hourly games. I mean, what's next - having to decipher the number of throat clicks in some African language?

I know what I am saying is controversial but if I had the power, I would wipe out all language quizzes off the board completely. I dislike them intensely - they are not trivia as you can't expect an ordinary person to know or decipher the correct answer.


Edited by Schoonie101 (Sat Feb 28 2009 03:25 AM)
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#441555 - Sat Feb 28 2009 03:49 AM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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I can't see the problem with CB questions coming up in the hourly quizzes - yes, the last question shouldn't be there, but the rest should stand alone. The last question in a CB quiz is almost always FITB. I haven't played the FITB hourly much in the last couple of months, but I don't remember it being a problem.

I tend to rate CB quizzes higher, as I know how much work goes into them, and I quite enjoy playing them. However, I think that very often people feel a bit frustrated or cheated if they're not familiar with the theme of a CB quiz.

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#441556 - Sat Feb 28 2009 03:57 AM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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Well, that's the problem - so many of them AREN'T stand alone questions. And just because something takes a lot of work doesn't mean it's still quality in the end. And believe me, I recognize and acknowledge those who put in outstanding quizzes. There are many and if I'm not mistaken, many of yours, supersal, rank among the outstanding quizzes. But too often, the CB type quizzes are slapdash. Am I biased on that because I generally run into them on the Quiz of the Hour, Global Challenge General, or Hourly games? Definitely yes.

Don't get me wrong - there are several CB quizzes I have played which are good if not excellent but there 10x as many that have irritated the hell out of me.



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#441557 - Sat Feb 28 2009 09:09 AM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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I have to admit I'm not always great at ranking quiz's. If I do one that impresses me then I automatically give it a good or an excellant at the end but tend to just not rate the others.
I have started trying to remember to rank more now. Like a few others 'good' is probably my default. If someone's taken the time and effort to create a quiz and provide interesting info with no obnoxious comments or glaring errors then I think they deserve it. Excellant is then reserved for those that go the extra mile or come up with a really unique idea.
Average is people that haven't provided much info or dont put enough thought into the multiple choices or make stupid ones.
I've only rated one poor because it really was bad.
I'm in a bit of a quandry over what to do about those old quizs that aren't up to standard now. By my scale they'd have to come below the 'average' but then they met the criteria at the time they were written so is it fair to mark them poor?

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#441558 - Sat Feb 28 2009 11:02 AM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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I love the language questions and tend to score those quizzes very high. They are every bit as much 'trivia' as determining cause of death at a crime scene, whether Harry Potter's scar zigs or zags first (which is the epitome of a trivial question), which chemical causes what reaction and solving quadratic equations. It isn't all about 'trivia'; some of it is highly specialised knowledge of specific fields.

Knowing a word or two of any language is not the same as speaking it fluently, hence it could be argued that such knowledge of common or otherwise interesting words in foreign languages IS actually trivial knowledge and has a place here.

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#441559 - Sat Feb 28 2009 12:19 PM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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I personally don't like the launguage questions either because I'm not fluent in any launguage except English. I studied French at school and know a couple of very basic words in other European launguages but not enough to answer some of the questions that are coming out now but everyone has their strengths and weaknesses and I guess a lot of the world is always playing at a disadvantage with English not being their first launguage.

I do wish the ones that come up in the tournements would have the questions in English so you know what is being asked and might be able to work the answer out (or visa versa). I'm starting to get a lot where the question and answers are all in a foreign launguage which would ensure that only people who are fluent would have a chance.

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#441560 - Sat Feb 28 2009 12:51 PM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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Thank you Schoonie, but I wasn't fishing!

What irritates me with language quizzes is when the question is in another language and I spend time trying to decipher it, then find out the object of the question is to say which language it's actually written in!

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#441561 - Sat Feb 28 2009 12:54 PM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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Thank you Schoonie, but I wasn't fishing!

What irritates me with language quizzes is when the question is in another language and I spend time trying to decipher it, then find out the object of the question is to say which language it's actually written in!




You're welcome. Hey, it's the truth! You do write a lot of great quizzes.

Too funny, though, with what you are talking about on that type of language quiz - I've found myself doing that exact same thing too and just laughing at my mistake!
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#441562 - Sat Feb 28 2009 08:44 PM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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Don't get me wrong - there are several CB quizzes I have played which are good if not excellent but there 10x as many that have irritated the hell out of me.




Interesting to see this topic come up here...I've been mulling over some ideas for a Common Bond quiz myself. I thought they were generally enjoyable quizzes to most. Schoonie, if you don't mind my asking, what is it in particular you dislike about them? Something that I could try to avoid, if I do try to write one? (apologies for off-topic post )

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#441563 - Sat Feb 28 2009 09:08 PM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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No worries. Well, the 10x was quite a bit of an exaggeration. Sometimes, though, I run into where the common bond isn't always readily intuitive or there are a couple different common bonds that can be derived from the set of answers. That can get frustrating at times.
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#441564 - Sun Mar 01 2009 08:35 AM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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I can understand that - I'm not very good at them myself. I'm slightly put off the idea because of the existing 300+ CB's already around, I don't want to duplicate any of them, but neither is the prospect of playing them all very appealing (esp. when it doesn't keep track which you've done).

Anyway, thanks! Y'all can get back on topic now.

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#441565 - Tue Mar 24 2009 04:55 PM Re: Poor/Very Poor ratings?
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I do rate most of the quizzes I play, nad mostof them are Good, though I love Fredsixties and Shnatymna's quizzes.

The lowest I have rated a quiz was Average.

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