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#449268 - Thu Dec 11 2008 04:26 PM Crossword Question
guitargoddess Offline
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If a Crossword clue makes it clear that I am looking for the answer to be a surname, need I still put '(surname)' in the clue?

Example:
Garfunkel's partner, looking for the answer Simon
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#449269 - Thu Dec 11 2008 06:40 PM Re: Crossword Question
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Not sure if all CW editors feel the same, but to my mind, you *have* indicated that you want it to be a surname, by using the surname in the clue.
You have to give the players the information they need, but nothing says you have to lay it all out for them, cut in bite size pieces...

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#449270 - Thu Dec 11 2008 10:19 PM Re: Crossword Question
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I agree with agony. There's no need to add (surname) to that clue, it is perfectly clear as it is.

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#449271 - Fri Dec 12 2008 08:46 AM Re: Crossword Question
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that's what i thought, just making sure. thanks to both of you
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#449272 - Fri Dec 12 2008 01:42 PM Re: Crossword Question
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Part of the challenge of solving crosswords is the "mystery" in the clues.

Anyway, in your case, a five-letter solution is not going to be solved very successfully with "Paul". ;-)

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#449273 - Sat Dec 13 2008 11:08 AM Re: Crossword Question
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I concur with agony and liz. If you make it clear in the clue, you don't have to spell it all out for the player.
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#449274 - Mon Dec 22 2008 11:31 AM Re: Crossword Question
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I'm sorry if this sounds like a silly question, but for fill in the blanks questions, the crossword guidelines state that "Missing words in a phrase etc. should be indicated by three underscores". If the answer consists of more than one word, does that mean that you should put three underscores in for each word or three underscores for the entire thing?

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#449275 - Mon Dec 22 2008 12:08 PM Re: Crossword Question
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I remember being told by an editor when a crossword was sent back to me for correction that you should just have one blank, then put a note that says (3 words) after the quote or question or whatever.
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#449276 - Mon Dec 22 2008 12:44 PM Re: Crossword Question
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GG is correct.

"Your question should ___ (3 words)" [look like this]

...[look like this] is your answer that fits in the grid.

I hope that made sense.
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#449277 - Mon Dec 22 2008 01:17 PM Re: Crossword Question
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I think the confusion is in the expression, 3 underscores. That's to indicate the length of the blank. It should be three long ___, no just one _ and not a ton ___________.
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#449278 - Wed Dec 24 2008 07:29 AM Re: Crossword Question
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Thanks for that added clarification, skunkee, that's the part that I was scratching my head over!

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#449279 - Sat Dec 27 2008 11:14 AM Re: Crossword Question
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Thanks for the clarification - now I understand what to do with the underscore.

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#449280 - Fri Jan 09 2009 12:52 PM Re: Crossword Question
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I was wondering whether, (like quizzes), do crossword templates also have a time limit? In other words, do crosswords that have not yet been submitted after a certain period of time also run the risk of being deleted? I only ask as I have found myself really taken with crossword creation, and wouldn't like to have three or four on the go that may be deleted.

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#449281 - Fri Jan 09 2009 12:58 PM Re: Crossword Question
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I seem to remember it's actually quite the opposite with crosswords. They won't go away, even when you deliberately try to delete one! (Unless that situation has changed.)
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#449282 - Fri Jan 09 2009 01:08 PM Re: Crossword Question
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Leau,

You're correct--at least from an author's view. I have tried to delete crosswords, but they refuse to go away!

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#449283 - Fri Jan 09 2009 01:45 PM Re: Crossword Question
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Haha it is indeed true. The only way you can scrap the template is to wipe off all clues and answers and change the title to something else.

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#449284 - Fri Jan 09 2009 02:07 PM Re: Crossword Question
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I don't think you have to worry much about editors coming in and manually deleting your crosswords, either. We would MUCH prefer you to take as much time as necessary in order to do a good job!

If you do have any worries, because of taking several months to work on a crossword, you can always put DO NOT DELETE in the title. It's most likely not necessary, but it doesn't hurt.

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#449285 - Fri Jan 09 2009 04:22 PM Re: Crossword Question
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Thanks to all of you who replied. Now I don't have to worry about rushing my crossword. I can take my time.

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#449286 - Fri Jan 09 2009 05:54 PM Re: Crossword Question
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I'm certainly plaguing the forums with crossword questions of late. I am just wondering how more experienced crossword makers get around the differences in UK/US vocabulary. I want to use the word "taps" as an answer in my "Charmed" crossword, but it has just occured to me that people in the US (and possibly other countries now that I think of it), use the word "faucets". Should I just scrap that answer and think of another, or is there a better way that wiser minds than mine have come up with?

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#449287 - Fri Jan 09 2009 05:56 PM Re: Crossword Question
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Oops, and I meant to type "occurred", not "occured". Spelling gremlins got me there.

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#449288 - Fri Jan 09 2009 06:09 PM Re: Crossword Question
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We use 'taps' in Canada too!
If you put in the Introduction of your puzzle that British expressions and spellings are used, it's fair warning to anyone before they decide to try it.
You can also incorporate it into your clues or hints.
For example, British word for kitchen water source [TAP]
or, Kitchen water source (British).
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#449289 - Fri Jan 09 2009 06:12 PM Re: Crossword Question
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Having variations in terminology is actually an advantage for crosswords in FT! If you ever get to a position where you can't think of a British word to fill the space you can try American English and so on. I always use that little cheat Though when I'm going to fit in the word pantyhose in a crossword is anyone's guess

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#449290 - Fri Jan 09 2009 06:12 PM Re: Crossword Question
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Thanks Skunkee I will definitely do that.

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#449291 - Fri Jan 09 2009 06:14 PM Re: Crossword Question
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Pantyhose eh jonnowales? Well you never know. Thanks for the tips, they are much appreciated, believe me

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#449292 - Fri Jan 09 2009 06:29 PM Re: Crossword Question
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'taps' is British terminology? didn't know that!
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