#458708 - Fri Feb 06 2009 06:17 PM
A suggeston to FT.
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Loc: California USA
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I believe the restrictions to posting quizzes should be removed. Here's how. Pick one of these options (I like all of them better):
- Only allow users to post up to 10 quizzes and allow gold members to post 100.
- Quizzes remain online for a limited time (6 or 12 months) unless the quiz author is a gold member. After that certain time, the quizzes are automatically deleted without being allowed to resubmit the same quiz.
That's all I have for the editors and admins.
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#458709 - Fri Feb 06 2009 06:34 PM
Re: A suggeston to FT.
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Loc: Ottawa Ontario Canada
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... Why?
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#458712 - Fri Feb 06 2009 07:24 PM
Re: A suggeston to FT.
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Some categories become restricted, usually because of the large number of quizzes already online in that category. For example, in Movies, most of the "Harry Potter" categories are restricted.
A restricted category is not a closed category (although those also exist) and only players who have a certain number of quizzes already online, write a quiz that is entirely comprised of original questions and that meets the category guidelines, will have their quiz considered.
This is by way of explanation to those who don't understand what you mean, it is not in any way support for your suggestion. If we were to limit the number of quizzes our players are allowed to create and have them automatically delete after a given period of time, we would indeed impoverish the site.
I also agree with poshprice - players will not be willing to work on their quizzes to make them really good if they will just disappear in six months.
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#458714 - Fri Feb 06 2009 08:24 PM
Re: A suggeston to FT.
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In general, working with and cooperating with editors- especially reading all of the Special Instructions for a category before writing a quiz- works better to get your quizzes online than trying to restructure the entire site based on your perceived needs.
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#458715 - Sat Feb 07 2009 02:36 AM
Re: A suggeston to FT.
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Loc: California USA
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Z.Z.Z., those proposals would strip away most of FT's quizzes and ruin the site! Why the apparent hostility to quizzes?
FT Editor, History and People.
Well, look at it this way. Some people are getting bored of the same quizzes. I find nothing wrong with casting aside archived quizzes and replacing them with new ones. So excuse me if I'm being "hostile".
BTW, if you change your mind, I immensely recommend the quiz limits (not the limited time option).
Also, being a gold member doesn't have anything worth paying for.
Edited by ZZZ22 (Sat Feb 07 2009 02:51 AM)
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#458716 - Sat Feb 07 2009 03:46 AM
Re: A suggeston to FT.
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Prolific
Registered: Mon Oct 30 2006
Posts: 1529
Loc: Swansea
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Well, look at it this way. Some people are getting bored of the same quizzes. I find nothing wrong with casting aside archived quizzes and replacing them with new ones. So excuse me if I'm being "hostile".
BTW, if you change your mind, I immensely recommend the quiz limits (not the limited time option).
Also, being a gold member doesn't have anything worth paying for.
Your first point here about "being bored of the same quizzes" is a bit of a non sequitur in terms of your original post. In the original post you suggest that only ten quizzes can be submitted at any one time unless you are a gold member. Then you go on to argue that some people are getting bored of the same quizzes! Well, let me assure you that if the amount of quizzes was limited, all the obscure and unusual quizzes that make this site so damn good will be deleted and only the most popular quizzes ie Harry Potter etc. will be left. You are proposing to limit the variety of quizzes in order to stop some people being bored of the same quizzes? You are proposing to reduce 90,000 quizzes down to about 5,000 quizzes to stop some people being bored of the same quizzes?
Your second point is just simply hopeful. Noone is going to change their mind on this, especially as others have pointed out, those who spend their time developing the question and quiz pools - that is editors, administrators and authors.
Your third point is entirely your opinion and noone states that you must buy a gold membership. I will just say, as a member of this site for 4 years and a gold member for about 2 years - I think the value for money is wonderful. If being a gold member offered nothing, why are there so many repeat subscriptions?
Jon
I would also just like to add that you joined this site in 2002 and have played just 140 quizzes. Also you only have 1650 bonus points which suggests you don't play too many hourly games either. So what exactly is your complaint? You have played approximately 0.16% of the quizzes on offer and believe you have played the requisite number of quizzes to allow you a reasoned and well balanced opinion on this matter?
Edited by jonnowales (Sat Feb 07 2009 03:50 AM)
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#458717 - Sat Feb 07 2009 03:59 AM
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Registered: Sun Dec 19 1999
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How bizarre. You have only played 140 out of over 90,000 quizzes since joining on Aug 22 02 so how can you be bored with the same quizzes? Play every quiz, it would take you years without repeating a single one.
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#458718 - Sat Feb 07 2009 06:05 AM
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Registered: Mon Dec 03 2001
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Loc: Sydney
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Your one and only quiz was created almost four years ago- should we delete it?
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#458719 - Sat Feb 07 2009 06:08 AM
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Registered: Sun Jun 15 2008
Posts: 2592
Loc: North Carolina USA
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Your one and only quiz was created almost four years ago- should we delete it?
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#458722 - Sat Feb 07 2009 12:41 PM
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#458725 - Sat Feb 07 2009 02:50 PM
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Loc: North Carolina USA
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How about we delete ALL the quizzes, and instead turn the site into a place dedicated to stupid videos of people on skateboards running into posts, and people getting hit in the groin with frisbees?
I wish I hadn't been drinking a coke when I read that!
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#458727 - Sat Feb 07 2009 05:30 PM
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Registered: Mon Mar 12 2007
Posts: 1408
Loc: Hartlepool Durham England UK
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I read that as "hit in the groin with fishes" - it's late and I had a hard week! That's my excuse and I am sticking to it!
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#458729 - Sat Feb 07 2009 08:17 PM
Re: A suggeston to FT.
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Registered: Fri Feb 06 2009
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Loc: California USA
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What about this?
I get restricted from posting quizzes on the most popular categories. If I have five quizzes online, I won't have to worry about them no more. At this rate, I have less than 1% of a chance of getting a quiz online at all.
That's why I am complaining about the rules and I didn't intend to flame bait.
Edited by ZZZ22 (Sat Feb 07 2009 08:20 PM)
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#458730 - Sat Feb 07 2009 08:23 PM
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Registered: Mon Jul 09 2007
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Loc: Ottawa Ontario Canada
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You're making it sound like the editors are just out to get you, ZZZ. Everyone has the same restrictions, so how is it not fair?
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#458731 - Sat Feb 07 2009 08:38 PM
Re: A suggeston to FT.
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Registered: Mon Mar 07 2005
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Loc: Toronto, Canada, eh!
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What about this?
I get restricted from posting quizzes on the most popular categories. If I have five quizzes online, I won't have to worry about them no more. At this rate, I have less than 1% of a chance of getting a quiz online at all.
That's why I am complaining about the rules and I didn't intend to flame bait.
Less than 1% chance? How is that? If you follow the guidelines and make changes to your quiz according to editor feedback, then there's no reason why your quiz wouldn't go online if it's not in a restricted category.
The reason categories are restricted is because of the volume of questions we tend to get for them and to reduce the repetitiveness. Most first-time writers will tend to write to restricted categories (your first quiz was put online before the restriction placed on its category thus contributing to this, for example), so they tend to be of a slightly lower caliber than ones submitted by more experienced authors. Quite simply, it's a matter of quality control. It doesn't necessarily mean that your restricted quiz, once you have five online, will be put online with no questions asked, but having five quizzes should give you a good start at getting a grasp on the site's guidelines.
Otherwise, without the restrictions, we'd have another thousand quizzes about 'Friends', 'Harry Potter', and 'High School Musical'. How much of that can we really take before it grows stale?
Technically, if we reduce the number to ten quizzes per user, we'd really have to crack down on what we accept. Whose to say your eleventh isn't better than the first? We'd have to really evaluate each person to get the absolute best-quality quizzes during their short life-spans.
Edited by kyleisalive (Sat Feb 07 2009 08:40 PM)
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#458732 - Sat Feb 07 2009 09:15 PM
Re: A suggeston to FT.
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Loc: Western Canada
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In my categories, although I abide by the "five quizzes online before submitting to a restricted category" guideline, I always take a look at every submission. There's always a possibility that some genius will submit a wonderful quiz, right off. It doesn't happen very often, but it does happen.
"Wonderful", in this case, does not mean something that would be "meh" even when the category was open - it means original, with a completely new approach to the subject. It means meticulously researched. It means written with flair and vigor.
agony, editor in Literature, Music, For Children and Humanities.
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