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#466914 - Fri Apr 24 2009 12:26 AM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
dg_dave Champion Poster Registered: Sun Oct 05 2003 Posts: 24575 Loc: near Stafford, Virginia USA	Quote: Quote: They don't have to be separate crashes. Maybe they collided at the border and one fell on each side! In that case, where would the survivors be buried? Hmm... _________________________ The way to get things done is NOT to mind who gets the credit for doing them. --Benjamin Jowett No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. --Eleanor Roosevelt The day we lose our will to fight is the day we lose our freedom.
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#466915 - Fri Apr 24 2009 12:27 AM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
Midget40 Forum Champion Registered: Mon Oct 27 2008 Posts: 7618 Loc: Perth Western Australia	LOL dark. Now if two planes did collide would it be two plane crashs or one plane crash? I would say it was a plane crash involving two planes but if you had to use one of the above which would be the correct English?
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#466916 - Fri Apr 24 2009 09:42 AM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
guitargoddess Moderator Registered: Mon Jul 09 2007 Posts: 41461 Loc: Ottawa Ontario Canada	Quote: LOL dark. Now if two planes did collide would it be two plane crashs or one plane crash? I would say it was a plane crash involving two planes but if you had to use one of the above which would be the correct English? I'd say probably one plane crash. When two cars collide, you don't say it was two car crashes... You could say two cars crashed, but it was only ONE collision or accident. It might be more difficult coming with terminology for a 'plane accident' though, as I imagine it happens much more infrequently than car accidents! _________________________ Editor: Television and Animals
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#466917 - Fri Apr 24 2009 10:33 AM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
darksplash Mainstay Registered: Sat Nov 03 2007 Posts: 506 Loc: Tyrone Northern Ireland UK	Yep, I'm in the one crash camp. "I imagine it happens much more infrequently than car accidents" I'm also in the camp that says there is no such thing as a car "accident" since more than 90 per cent of car crashes are due to driver error. _________________________ There are just two types of people in this world, those who hear the music and those who don't.
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#466918 - Fri Apr 24 2009 10:49 AM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
Bruyere Star Poster Registered: Sat Feb 10 2001 Posts: 18899 Loc: California USA	You've just revealed why we have a serious past participle problem. It's because French kids have to memorize the chart of irregulars and know them much better than any catechism book. So that even when we've always used the American variety of English at home, we've both studied in the UK and we can't distinguish between the American one and the British one. Now however a new monkey wrench in the works is that, the Californian teen slang is to use, 'seen' instead of saw. And I don't mean with 'I have seen'. Oh well. _________________________ I was born under a wandering star.
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#466919 - Fri Apr 24 2009 11:02 AM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
CellarDoor Multiloquent Registered: Sat Feb 12 2000 Posts: 4894 Loc: Seattle Washington USA	But in a collision between two cars, there's only one "crash" -- the collision itself. In the plane collision scenario, there are three "crashes" -- the collision between planes, plus each plane's collision with the ground. One collision, one border, two planes, two countries, three crashes! Who's with me? With a little luck, we can obfuscate this issue beyond all recognition! _________________________ Just because there's twilight doesn't mean we can't tell the difference between night and day
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#466920 - Fri Apr 24 2009 11:47 AM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
Rowena8482 Prolific Registered: Mon Mar 12 2007 Posts: 1408 Loc: Hartlepool Durham England UK	The use of "seen" for saw has always been common here, everyone says "I seen him" or "I seen it" etc. There are various other local expressions which are either words unique to here, or words that mean something else used in a totally different way, but I think the "seen" thing is just bad grammar that has slipped into common useage and nobody even notices it anymore. _________________________ It is better to open your eyes and say you do not understand, than to close your eyes and say you do not believe.
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#466921 - Fri Apr 24 2009 12:01 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
darksplash Mainstay Registered: Sat Nov 03 2007 Posts: 506 Loc: Tyrone Northern Ireland UK	I live near an area where a lot of people start counting "whan, two three...". They also tend to say "nathan" for "nothing". All this much to the annoyance of the teachers who try to stop the kids saying it. Which brings me to the story of the young boy who was sitting in school with two lunch boxes. The teacher pointed to one and said "what's that for" and the boy replied "It's for nathan". The teacher went ballistic: "I've told you before, Jimmy Smith, it's nothing" The boy replied: "No miss, you don't understand, It's for my brother - Nathan." _________________________ There are just two types of people in this world, those who hear the music and those who don't.
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#466922 - Fri Apr 24 2009 12:30 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
guitargoddess Moderator Registered: Mon Jul 09 2007 Posts: 41461 Loc: Ottawa Ontario Canada	Briefly back to the topic of corrections etiquette - is it desired for players to send corrections on aspects of crossword puzzles that do not fit the guidelines, and presumably the editor just missed it? I just played a puzzle that had the same word with the same clue, and the two instances of the word crossed each other. I'm leaning towards it not being a correction to send, because what can the author really do about it now? _________________________ Editor: Television and Animals
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#466923 - Fri Apr 24 2009 12:48 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
SilverMoonsong Moderator Registered: Sun Nov 07 1999 Posts: 3989 Loc: Durham, North Carolina USA	gg, If the author is still active, then we can get it fixed. If the author is not active, let me know which puzzle it is and I can take it offline and try to fix it or just leave it offline if it can't be fixed. _________________________ Forum Moderator: Useful Tips & Tricks, Movies & Television, Music Cellar Senior Crossword Editor
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#466924 - Fri Apr 24 2009 01:02 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
guitargoddess Moderator Registered: Mon Jul 09 2007 Posts: 41461 Loc: Ottawa Ontario Canada	Okay, I sent a correction note for it. _________________________ Editor: Television and Animals
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#466925 - Fri Apr 24 2009 08:22 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
darksplash Mainstay Registered: Sat Nov 03 2007 Posts: 506 Loc: Tyrone Northern Ireland UK	To get back to the sing sang sung saga, (oh do keep up, children) I sent a note to the author, and he fixed them. _________________________ There are just two types of people in this world, those who hear the music and those who don't.
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#466926 - Sat Apr 25 2009 04:19 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
shuehorn Multiloquent Registered: Tue Jul 04 2006 Posts: 3613 Loc: Lawrenceville Georgiaï¿½USAï¿½...	Great news, darksplash. It's important to keep things grammatical, even if it is an uphill battle. _________________________ Sue (shuehorn)
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#466927 - Tue May 05 2009 06:23 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
Schoonie101 Prolific Registered: Sun Jun 24 2007 Posts: 1178 Loc: California USA	Apologies if this has been covered before. I recently sent a correction notice for a question I saw in the Obscurity game (note: there are a fair amount of questions in there that are in need of correction - possibly why so few people answer them correctly in the first place) but when I sent the notice, instead of saying that the note was sent, the screen stated that the destination user does not exist. Does this still reach an editor? Thanks! _________________________ "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." - William Blake
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#466928 - Tue May 05 2009 07:28 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
dg_dave Champion Poster Registered: Sun Oct 05 2003 Posts: 24575 Loc: near Stafford, Virginia USA	Quote: I recently sent a correction notice for a question I saw in the Obscurity game (note: there are a fair amount of questions in there that are in need of correction - possibly why so few people answer them correctly in the first place) but when I sent the notice, instead of saying that the note was sent, the screen stated that the destination user does not exist. Does this still reach an editor? Thanks! As long as you sent it as a correction notice and not a direct message, yes, the editors will see it, and it will be taken care of. Edit to add: Schoonie, see this thread. CellarDoor's response is what to pay attention to. Edited by dg_dave (Tue May 05 2009 07:34 PM) _________________________ The way to get things done is NOT to mind who gets the credit for doing them. --Benjamin Jowett No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. --Eleanor Roosevelt The day we lose our will to fight is the day we lose our freedom.
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#466929 - Tue May 05 2009 07:35 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
Schoonie101 Prolific Registered: Sun Jun 24 2007 Posts: 1178 Loc: California USA	Quote: Quote: I recently sent a correction notice for a question I saw in the Obscurity game (note: there are a fair amount of questions in there that are in need of correction - possibly why so few people answer them correctly in the first place) but when I sent the notice, instead of saying that the note was sent, the screen stated that the destination user does not exist. Does this still reach an editor? Thanks! As long as you sent it as a correction notice and not a direct message, yes, the editors will see it, and it will be taken care of. I did send it as a correction notice so then everything should be as normal. Sounds good. Thanks for the response! _________________________ "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." - William Blake
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#466930 - Tue May 05 2009 07:53 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
ozzz2002 Moderator Registered: Mon Dec 03 2001 Posts: 20912 Loc: Sydney NSW Australia	Quote: Now however a new monkey wrench in the works Ok, Ok. so where did this tool get its name? Down here, we call it a 'spanner'. A more specialised type is a 'pipe wrench', which is mainly used for gripping pipes (strangely enough!) Can anyone tell me where the 'monkey' reference comes from? _________________________ The key to everything is patience. You get the chicken by hatching the egg, not smashing it. Ex-Editor, Hobbies and Sports, and Forum Moderator
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#466931 - Tue May 05 2009 09:05 PM

Re: Quiz corrections etiquette

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I recently sent a correction notice for a question I saw in the Obscurity game (note: there are a fair amount of questions in there that are in need of correction - possibly why so few people answer them correctly in the first place) but when I sent the notice, instead of saying that the note was sent, the screen stated that the destination user does not exist.

Does this still reach an editor?

Thanks!

As long as you sent it as a correction notice and not a direct message, yes, the editors will see it, and it will be taken care of.

I did send it as a correction notice so then everything should be as normal. Sounds good. Thanks for the response!

I doubt that's how the systems works. If the destination user does not exist then the message failed to take; it didn't happen. The message system for quizzes all works off usernames; it needs a sender and a receiver. The system then sorts them as required e.g.
[ a ] one routine sorts by username to create our MailBox;
[ b ] another routine sorts by quiz number and, if there is one, it creates a list of messages and attaches them to a quiz;
[ c ] and yet another routine takes that list in (b) and looks for correction notes and, if there are any, creates a yet another list; this is the list editors that editors can see.

Schoonie101,
what's your memory like .. do your remember the Q, or the quiz name, or sub-category, or the author's name? I might be able to track it down and find out how we have a quiz online/offline where the username doesn't exist.

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This is probably what happened - the quiz is an old quiz and the author's username has an "unrecognised" character such as # or $ or &. The send-a-note input screen recognises the character, but the button for the send-message-routine doesn't. The send-routine ignores anything after those symbols/characters.

Finally, this is an example of questions which should not be answered with guesses. If you do not know the answer, please do not reply to the Q.

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#466932 - Tue May 05 2009 09:26 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
Schoonie101 Prolific Registered: Sun Jun 24 2007 Posts: 1178 Loc: California USA	gtho4, I do remember it and tracked it down. Here it is: http://www.funtrivia.com/trivia-quiz/Geography/United-Arab-Emirates-46433.html It sounds like the quiz author is gone from the site permanently, which is apparently the cause of the message. It is question 2 which I am referring to. Now back when the quiz was written, the population of the UAE was around 2.3 million. However, it is a time based question without a date of reference whatsoever. Now, the population hovers around 3 million. http://www.uae.gov.ae/Government/country.htm#Population%20&%20Religion Thanks for the response. Hope this info helps. Please let me know if you need any more information. _________________________ "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." - William Blake
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#466933 - Tue May 05 2009 11:19 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
gtho4 Administrator Registered: Sun Dec 26 1999 Posts: 54484 Loc: Sydney oz downunder	wow, nothing wrong with your memory! The CN you sent did not get through, as the a/c was deleted by the author. I've re-created it so that others may send CNs on that quiz, or other quizzes by the same author.
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#466934 - Tue May 05 2009 11:28 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
Schoonie101 Prolific Registered: Sun Jun 24 2007 Posts: 1178 Loc: California USA	Quote: wow, nothing wrong with your memory! The CN you sent did not get through, as the a/c was deleted by the author. I've re-created it so that others may send CNs on that quiz, or other quizzes by the same author. Thanks, gtho4. Luckily, it was just earlier today and I remembered the topic and question. Took a few minutes to hunt for it but found it. Again, thanks for taking the time. It is rare when the quiz author has completely departed like that but in general, what would be the best approach for a CN? Should I just gather the info and direct message the editor for that category? _________________________ "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." - William Blake
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#466935 - Wed May 06 2009 12:09 AM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
gtho4 Administrator Registered: Sun Dec 26 1999 Posts: 54484 Loc: Sydney oz downunder	If it happens again, post the author's username in this thread; and whichever admin's online at the time can re-open the account. Hopefully, it'll be a rare event.
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#466936 - Wed May 06 2009 12:32 AM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
Schoonie101 Prolific Registered: Sun Jun 24 2007 Posts: 1178 Loc: California USA	Quote: If it happens again, post the author's username in this thread; and whichever admin's online at the time can re-open the account. Hopefully, it'll be a rare event. OK, thanks. Will do. I think this is only the 2nd time I've seen this happen so definitely a rare occurrence. _________________________ "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." - William Blake
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#466937 - Wed May 06 2009 06:13 AM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
agony Administrator Registered: Sat Mar 29 2003 Posts: 16595 Loc: Western Canada	Usually when people leave they just abandon the account, in which case using normal correction note procedures will work fine.
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#466938 - Tue May 26 2009 08:09 PM Re: Quiz corrections etiquette
guitargoddess Moderator Registered: Mon Jul 09 2007 Posts: 41461 Loc: Ottawa Ontario Canada	Should a correction be sent for a question that refers to another question in that quiz? It still somewhat stands alone, i.e. there are more clues within the question that point to the correct answer, it is not entirely dependent on seeing the other question, but the first part of the question says something like "This man was considered to be more liberal than the man in the question above". _________________________ Editor: Television and Animals
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